Jerry Jabber Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) I know it's only 4 games, but I can't help being impressed with Kyle Orton, especially when you consider he was not here for OTA's, minicamp, training camp and all 5 preseason games. Each week, Orton is getting better as he is having a better feel for the offense and gains more chemistry with his receivers. If Orton keeps progressing, should the Bills sign him to a contract extension at the end of the year? Edited October 27, 2014 by Jerry Jabber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 He is on a 2 yr contract so no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Easy now. He already has a player option for 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 He certainly seems to be in a better situation than his last two or three stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 I know he has a 2 year contract, but I think if Orton keeps playing at this level (Or better), than I feel he could be our QB for the near future (4-5 years). Orton is 31, so he's not old by QB standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 He certainly seems to be in a better situation than his last two or three stops. Â I agree. IMO, both the Bears & Broncos were greedy and wanted more out of the QB position. From talking Bears fans during the Lovie Smith era, they weren't happy unless they won a Super Bowl so anything less than a Super Bowl victory was unacceptable. In Denver, Orton put up good numbers (had 3600+ passing yards & 20TD's in two consecutive seasons), but it seemed they wanted more and when the Broncos used a 1st round pick on Tebow, management wanted Tebow as the starter. So I feel this is a great situation for Orton to be in right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Sure let's jump the gun and give him big money halfway through the year. That worked out well with Fitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Sure let's jump the gun and give him big money halfway through the year. That worked out well with Fitz  Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Sure let's jump the gun and give him big money halfway through the year. That worked out well with Fitz  In my first post, I said at the end if the season and if Orton keeps playing at the level he is at now or better. So, how is that jumping the gun?  If the Bills sign Orton (at the end of the season) to a 4-5 year extension, they can focus on plugging in the remaining holes on the team, such as the Guard positions, and gain more depth. Edited October 27, 2014 by Jerry Jabber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I don't see that as the smart move. My reasoning is he has always wanted to be the starter and take a team to the promised land. He is getting 5.5 mil for two years so if he takes us to the playoffs (God should I say it as we can win many of these games and end 10-6), and he comes out strong next year, why not prolong the cap hit to future years, and give him that contract at game 6 next year. Â Then we have an option of reworking Mario's contract as he is not worth $16 mil at that age mid year next year, but can still make very good DE money. I'd love for Orton to lead us, and get locked up for 3 more years after next for decent money. Â we have to keep the other talented guys we have so it is a matter of balancing your money. The cap will go up in two years, and we can backload money to Orton if he really turns out to be a stud. I see him getting better as he did not have an off season or training camp, and he still threw four touchdowns today. Â What I love is some of these late pick ups on defense like Charles, Wynn, and even Lawson showing up today. Â Let's punish the Chiefs in two weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 There is no reason Orton can't be the starter for the next couple of years. In fact put that to our advantage and draft the future QB while Kyle is still playing. That way you take your time, not draft someone because you have to like we did with EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 no, not right now. It is his team this year and next, after that, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I might give him a slight raise for shaving the 'stache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Dareus and Hughes first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! Â Last time we gave a Qb an extension, his game went way south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I know it's only 4 games, but I can't help being impressed with Kyle Orton, especially when you consider he was not here for OTA's, minicamp, training camp and all 5 preseason games. Each week, Orton is getting better as he is having a better feel for the offense and gains more chemistry with his receivers. If Orton keeps progressing, should the Bills sign him to a contract extension at the end of the year? Â Yes, but he should get some lessons in mobility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Worked out super well last time we extended a QB in the bye week. Â http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7160727/ryan-fitzpatrick-buffalo-bills-agrees-new-contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I might give him a slight raise for shaving the 'stache. Â or growing it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I can't understand why people are so vehemently opposed to this. If he continues to play at this level for the remainder of the season, and the Bills make the playoffs, why would you be opposed to a reasonable extension for Orton? Â He could conceivably be a legit starting QB for a few years, buying Buffalo some time so they can draft a QB to be groomed as his replacement. With everyone healthy, Orton has a bounty of weapons to play with. I would think that he sees the potential of this team, and would be motivated to end his career on a high note. Â Just think about his impact on Sammy Watkins alone. With EJ under center, he perhaps would have been deemed a disappointment; a poor personnel decision. With Orton, Sammy is virtually a lock for OROY and likely a pro-bowler. Â Give Kyle a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I vote Jim Schwartz gets an extension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Kyle donated his sperm to the Ebola nurses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Â Â or growing it back Now, if he could grow an Andrew Luck neck beard, and BE Andrew Luck, I'm in for an extension. A lifetime extension.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 I can't understand why people are so vehemently opposed to this. If he continues to play at this level for the remainder of the season, and the Bills make the playoffs, why would you be opposed to a reasonable extension for Orton? Â He could conceivably be a legit starting QB for a few years, buying Buffalo some time so they can draft a QB to be groomed as his replacement. With everyone healthy, Orton has a bounty of weapons to play with. I would think that he sees the potential of this team, and would be motivated to end his career on a high note. Â Just think about his impact on Sammy Watkins alone. With EJ under center, he perhaps would have been deemed a disappointment; a poor personnel decision. With Orton, Sammy is virtually a lock for OROY and likely a pro-bowler. Â Give Kyle a chance. Â +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Clearly, the Fitz experience will have everyone running away from this one. At the end of the year, if the Bills make the playoffs, or hell, let's go crazy and say if they just post a winning record for the first time in a decade, I'd see if KO was amenable to extending for 2 more years at $5-6M/year. Let him start and let EJ groom. If you really don't think EJ is it, then draft a QB in late rounds 2015, or wait until early rounds 2016. Face it, we don't have the draft picks next year to do this, and we need guards and a TE badly. Fix the QB position and free up those draft picks to plug the holes in 2015. Edited October 27, 2014 by Fred Jackson Jockstrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I find it amazing that someone actually started a thread on this after the Fitz debacle. The Bills gave Fitz a contract that was the 19th highest QB contract in the league and he immediately finished 19th in passer rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I know it's only 4 games, but I can't help being impressed with Kyle Orton, especially when you consider he was not here for OTA's, minicamp, training camp and all 5 preseason games. Each week, Orton is getting better as he is having a better feel for the offense and gains more chemistry with his receivers. If Orton keeps progressing, should the Bills sign him to a contract extension at the end of the year? Â Why? They signed him to w two year deal so there is no need to even worry about it at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Clearly, the Fitz experience will have everyone running away from this one. At the end of the year, if the Bills make the playoffs, or hell, let's go crazy and say if they just post a winning record for the first time in a decade, I'd see if KO was amenable to extending for 2 more years at $5-6M/year. Let him start and let EJ groom. If you really don't think EJ is it, then draft a QB in late 2015, or wait until early 2016. Face it, we don't have the draft picks next year to do this, and we need guards and a TE badly. Fix the QB position and free up those draft picks to plug the holes in 2015. Â This makes a lot of sense (except drafting a QB in late 2015 - it's either '15 or '16). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 No need to, got another year under contract. Don't need to make another Fitz mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Ok. Â My point is wait until the seasons over and gauge the situation from there. Totally agree. Â There is no need now. He's played well but he is still a journeyman until he proves over a season that he is not. Â That said, he's never had the weapons we have. He could be good enough in the Brad Johnson, Rich Gannon, Jeff Hostetler kind of way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 Â Â Ok. Â My point is wait until the seasons over and gauge the situation from there. Â I posed that question in my first post of this thread, so I don't understand the argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofGailey Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!  Last time we gave a Qb an extension, his game went way south   Yea.... all the way to Houston! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 This makes a lot of sense (except drafting a QB in late 2015 - it's either '15 or '16). Â Sorry, I meant late in the 2015 draft, or early in the 2016 draft. Fixing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!  Last time we gave a Qb an extension, his game went way south   Yea.... all the way to Houston!  I used to be a banker and there was a saying.... just because you had a loan on a blue car go bad, it didn't mean all blue cars were bad. You have to be smart enough to evaluate every situation. Are you saying we can't EVER extend a QB, or you don't believe in THIS QB?    Sorry, I meant late in the 2015 draft, or early in the 2016 draft. Fixing it. Should have guessed - that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 I think extending Orton (at the end of the season (if he still keeps playing good)) will give the Bills a good QB for a few years and give them more time to get a QB for the future, instead of reaching for a QB, like they did with Manuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 With each wek I'm becoming more convinced we found a real gem here in Orton. It would be awesome if this developed into of situation like a Kurt Warner or Rich Gannon where they bounced around with various teams and then found greatness late in their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Sure let's jump the gun and give him big money halfway through the year. That worked out well with Fitz This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I know he has a 2 year contract, but I think if Orton keeps playing at this level (Or better), than I feel he could be our QB for the near future (4-5 years). Orton is 31, so he's not old by QB standards. I hope the Bills don't make the same mistake as they did with Fitz. Orton must take this team to the playoffs before talking about contract extension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Totally agree. Â There is no need now. He's played well but he is still a journeyman until he proves over a season that he is not. Â That said, he's never had the weapons we have. He could be good enough in the Brad Johnson, Rich Gannon, Jeff Hostetler kind of way. Hey man, all of those quarterbacks are white, average, and one of them even had a moustache. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 give him the fitzpatrick deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 There is no reason Orton can't be the starter for the next couple of years. In fact put that to our advantage and draft the future QB while Kyle is still playing. That way you take your time, not draft someone because you have to like we did with EJ. Can a team do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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