Big Turk Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Bills D allowed 25.78 yards per drive, number 1 in the NFL, even more impressive considering they faced 209 drives against, most in the NFL(33 more than the average of 186)... Bills D finished 4th in Defensive DVOA at -13.4 behind only Seattle, Carolina and Arizona a year after finishing 27th, despite having the 2nd worst opponent starting field position, averaging a drive start at their own 31 yard line(thanks offense) D finished 4th in plays per drive, 6th in TOP per drive, 4th in drive success rate, 8th in punts per drive , 13th in 3 and outs per drive, 6th in both points and touchdowns per redzone appearance... Finished 10th in total yards allowed, 6th in yards per play, and the reason other teams seemingly converted so many 3rd downs against us is because we forced more 3rd downs than any other team in the NFL(245), even tho at 37% we were 13th in the NFL... Pretty impressive and shows how much improvement can happen in one year... On the flip side, the Bears were the reverse of us, going from #1 in defensive DVOA last year to 25th this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 How can we get a good offense? 15 years with no playoffs and 15 years we've never had a good offense. Not a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 Hmmmm...not true, I think the year we missed with Bledsoe when the Steelers backups beat us to keep us out we were top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 We're number 1, we're number 1, we're number 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Bills D allowed 25.78 yards per drive, number 1 in the NFL, even more impressive considering they faced 209 drives against, most in the NFL(33 more than the average of 186)... Bills D finished 4th in Defensive DVOA at -13.4 behind only Seattle, Carolina and Arizona a year after finishing 27th, despite having the 2nd worst opponent starting field position, averaging a drive start at their own 31 yard line(thanks offense) D finished 4th in plays per drive, 6th in TOP per drive, 4th in drive success rate, 8th in punts per drive , 13th in 3 and outs per drive, 6th in both points and touchdowns per redzone appearance... Finished 10th in total yards allowed, 6th in yards per play, and the reason other teams seemingly converted so many 3rd downs against us is because we forced more 3rd downs than any other team in the NFL(245), even tho at 37% we were 13th in the NFL... Pretty impressive and shows how much improvement can happen in one year... On the flip side, the Bears were the reverse of us, going from #1 in defensive DVOA last year to 25th this year... Have you asked yourself why this might be? Here's an exercise for you and anyone else that thinks that this stat is meaningful this year. Take a look at the schedule, and how many yards each of the teams on it gained against us, then contrast that with their offensive yardage rankings. Then ask yourself why you think this status exists. This is the kind of thing that everyone gets excited over but which is largely circumstantially based, so when it doesn't happen again the following season everyone's left scratching their noodle instead of already knowing why it didn't repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It's weird. Our offense finished in exactly the same spot as last year (19th) with about 70 more total yards. Yet, with the vastly improved defense we still finished 6-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Interesting analysis. This team is some consistent QB play away from being very good. If they fix the run D problems this D will be monstrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Bills D allowed 25.78 yards per drive, number 1 in the NFL, even more impressive considering they faced 209 drives against, most in the NFL(33 more than the average of 186)... Bills D finished 4th in Defensive DVOA at -13.4 behind only Seattle, Carolina and Arizona a year after finishing 27th, despite having the 2nd worst opponent starting field position, averaging a drive start at their own 31 yard line(thanks offense) D finished 4th in plays per drive, 6th in TOP per drive, 4th in drive success rate, 8th in punts per drive , 13th in 3 and outs per drive, 6th in both points and touchdowns per redzone appearance... Finished 10th in total yards allowed, 6th in yards per play, and the reason other teams seemingly converted so many 3rd downs against us is because we forced more 3rd downs than any other team in the NFL(245), even tho at 37% we were 13th in the NFL... Pretty impressive and shows how much improvement can happen in one year... On the flip side, the Bears were the reverse of us, going from #1 in defensive DVOA last year to 25th this year... Thanks for posting this. Great turnaround for the defense. They were very fun to watch this year. Pass rush is king on defense. As for the offense.......well the Indy preseason game was fun to watch. I know we are all sick of the up-the-middle runs on 1st and 2nd down but given a top 15 QB I would be willing to bet that Hackett and Marrone can stir up a top 10 offense. Marrone needs to go to "gameday" school this winter though. The better the team gets the more glaring those mistakes will look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Bills D allowed 25.78 yards per drive, number 1 in the NFL, even more impressive considering they faced 209 drives against, most in the NFL(33 more than the average of 186)... Bills D finished 4th in Defensive DVOA at -13.4 behind only Seattle, Carolina and Arizona a year after finishing 27th, despite having the 2nd worst opponent starting field position, averaging a drive start at their own 31 yard line(thanks offense) D finished 4th in plays per drive, 6th in TOP per drive, 4th in drive success rate, 8th in punts per drive , 13th in 3 and outs per drive, 6th in both points and touchdowns per redzone appearance... Finished 10th in total yards allowed, 6th in yards per play, and the reason other teams seemingly converted so many 3rd downs against us is because we forced more 3rd downs than any other team in the NFL(245), even tho at 37% we were 13th in the NFL... Pretty impressive and shows how much improvement can happen in one year... On the flip side, the Bears were the reverse of us, going from #1 in defensive DVOA last year to 25th this year... Not buying any of these so-called "stats." Jerry Sullivan says our defense still sucks. Hmmmm...not true, I think the year we missed with Bledsoe when the Steelers backups beat us to keep us out we were top 10 Yeah the Bills had an excellent offense in both 2002 and 2004. That's really it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) When a team has a lead, they don't need to push the ball downfield quickly. Just milk the clock and get enough for a 1st down to continue milking the clock until they get in FG range. So some of this can be attributed to the other team not needing alot of yards. Plus the Bills special teams gave up a lot of big returns which gave their opponents a shorter distance to score. Edited January 2, 2014 by PastaJoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) I appreciate the holiday cheer Matter, and then literally of course Kirby ! Go Bills ! yeah yeah , yeah yeah ! Edited January 2, 2014 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 When a team has a lead, they don't need to push the ball downfield quickly. Just milk the clock and get enough for a 1st down to continue milking the clock until they get in FG range. So some of this can be attributed to the other team not needing alot of yards. Plus the Bills special teams gave up a lot of big returns which gave their opponents a shorter distance to score. Well, that would be all well and good, but on average, the Bills held a small lead over the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I said it mid season. This defense was great at giving the offense chances. The offense normally went three and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 This topic does nothing but polishes a turd. The D never performed against a quality team. They can dominate crap teams but stink against good ones, especially on the road...NE, Tampa, etc. That's the true measurement, not this crap that is cited here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Defense forced 2nd most punts per game at 5.9. Offense punted the most at 6 per game. Punting teams were horrible. Gave up 5 yards more net per punt than we got, resulting in losing 30 yards per game. Kickoff teams not much better. Opponents had 25 more kickoff returns (they had higher touchback %) and netted 3 yards more than we did per return. That's another almost 5 yards lost due to the kicking team. Special teams cost us 35 net yards per game. Add 35 yards per game to our defensive totals and that drops our defense from 10th overall to 20th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 This topic does nothing but polishes a turd. The D never performed against a quality team. They can dominate crap teams but stink against good ones, especially on the road...NE, Tampa, etc. That's the true measurement, not this crap that is cited here. Holding a team to barely over 100 yards over the final 3 quarters including 7 yards in the second half is pretty freaking good...on the road against Tampa Defense forced 2nd most punts per game at 5.9. Offense punted the most at 6 per game. Punting teams were horrible. Gave up 5 yards more net per punt than we got, resulting in losing 30 yards per game. Kickoff teams not much better. Opponents had 25 more kickoff returns (they had higher touchback %) and netted 3 yards more than we did per return. That's another almost 5 yards lost due to the kicking team. Special teams cost us 35 net yards per game. Add 35 yards per game to our defensive totals and that drops our defense from 10th overall to 20th. Ok, take away the 36 extra drives we allowed on defense over the average team and that probably takes us from 10th to 3rd...see how fun the what if game can be? 36 extra drives is about an extra full three games worth of possessions for our D to have faced... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Holding a team to barely over 100 yards over the final 3 quarters including 7 yards in the second half is pretty freaking good...on the road against Tampa Ok, take away the 36 extra drives we allowed on defense over the average team and that probably takes us from 10th to 3rd...see how fun the what if game can be? 36 extra drives is about an extra full three games worth of possessions for our D to have faced... When you extract out the 80 yard run on the 1st play….. I don't know why any fan tries to justify that team on any level. They sucked against any decent team and just could not stop the run. If you can't stop the run for a full 60, tell your story walking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Ok, take away the 36 extra drives we allowed on defense over the average team and that probably takes us from 10th to 3rd...see how fun the what if game can be? 36 extra drives is about an extra full three games worth of possessions for our D to have faced... 36 extra drives is irrelevant since our offense had 36 extra drives as well. Simply the tempo Marrone decided to play at. I was actually trying to defend our defense by pointing out how bad our special teams were. Offense was almost as bad as the special teams. Defense was the only thing preventing Bills from being a 2 or 3 win team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 We're number 1, we're number 1, we're number 1 It makes a great change from being number 2s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 but wait we can't stop the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Hmmmm...not true, I think the year we missed with Bledsoe when the Steelers backups beat us to keep us out we were top 10 So basically the closest we've been to the playoffs in 14 years .. was the year we had the best offense? I think I'm all to only draft offense with 1st round picks from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Isn't this an indictment of the no-huddle offense the Bills ran this season? Didn't the Bills mix in some huddles and slow the pace of their no-huddle towards the end of the season? Is it possible that a no-huddle attack wasn't the best approach for a rookie QB and 2 rookie wideouts among the top 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Isn't this an indictment of the no-huddle offense the Bills ran this season? Didn't the Bills mix in some huddles and slow the pace of their no-huddle towards the end of the season? Is it possible that a no-huddle attack wasn't the best approach for a rookie QB and 2 rookie wideouts among the top 4? Sometimes a no-huddle helps a rookie QB because it prevents the defense from substituting and therefore the QB doesn''t need to adjust so much during a drive. But not sure if that outweighed the fact that they went 3 and out in 25 seconds and our D was on the field the whole game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Sometimes a no-huddle helps a rookie QB because it prevents the defense from substituting and therefore the QB doesn''t need to adjust so much during a drive. But not sure if that outweighed the fact that they went 3 and out in 25 seconds and our D was on the field the whole game. I'm not really considering if slowing down the offense would have helped the "offensive" performance but simply running a bit more time off the clock seems like it would have helped the defense see fewer possessions and be a little bit more well-rested. Would you buy that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 So, the defense is #1, and the offense played like #2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 So, the defense is #1, and the offense played like #2? Special teams was worse than the offense and that's with the benefit of a kicker signed a couple days before the season opener who had a fantastic year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'm not really considering if slowing down the offense would have helped the "offensive" performance but simply running a bit more time off the clock seems like it would have helped the defense see fewer possessions and be a little bit more well-rested. Would you buy that? The part of the no huddle I like SJBF is that when we need to pick up the pace and get points quickly, whether because we're down big or in a 2 min situation it's no different for us than any other possession. we're at full speed all the time. live action, and at practice. I wonder if that might've helped EJ execute the drive against Carolina as early on as he did. Again as YOLO said, not sure that outweighs what you're talking about considering the inexperience with EJ, Tuel and Thad alike. Yes I think these numbers may be an indictment of the decision to use the no huddle full time in EJ's rookie year. But I kinda like the idea going forward, in today's pinball wizard NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The part of the no huddle I like SJBF is that when we need to pick up the pace and get points quickly, whether because we're down big or in a 2 min situation it's no different for us than any other possession. we're at full speed all the time. live action, and at practice. I wonder if that might've helped EJ execute the drive against Carolina as early on as he did. Again as YOLO said, not sure that outweighs what you're talking about considering the inexperience with EJ, Tuel and Thad alike. Yes I think these numbers may be an indictment of the decision to use the no huddle full time in EJ's rookie year. But I kinda like the idea going forward, in today's pinball wizard NFL. I really like the no-huddle concept quite a bit. I hope for the day that the Bills become very adept at running it. I think the offense needs more talent though. I also agree that the no-huddle might be more beneficial in the long term than it was in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Here's a stat I would like to see. Compare the average yards rushing per game for each of the Bills opponents this year prior to playing the Bills, with the number of rushing yards they got against the Bills. Except for the second Miami game, when the Fish stupidly never really tried to establish the run, I think the Bills always gave up more rushing yards. Every team with a rushing disorder got healthy by playing Buffalo. Sacks and interceptions are really important in today's passing-mad NFL, but if you can't stop the run you can't win consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 When a team has a lead, they don't need to push the ball downfield quickly. Just milk the clock and get enough for a 1st down to continue milking the clock until they get in FG range. So some of this can be attributed to the other team not needing alot of yards. Plus the Bills special teams gave up a lot of big returns which gave their opponents a shorter distance to score. Until the NO game, the Bills were tied or in the lead in the 4th quarter of every single game. And they were in that spot in at least 2 more (if not 3 or 4 more) games they lost later this year. How much milking the clock contributed to those per drive stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) Number of yards per drive and average plays per drive IMO, aren't the most telling of defensive stats. In the end points win games so I'd say points scored per drive and percentage of drives ending in offensive score tell the most: 2013 Season Percentage of drives ending in offensive score: 32.5% (13th in the NFL) Average points scored per drive: 1.68 (12th in the NFL) And they also confirm the eye test of the top 5 defenses (these are top 5 for both): Seattle Carolina Cincinnati San Francisco Kansas City and Arizona is 6th for both New England is top 10 for both Massive improvement from 2012 when the Bills were 21st in scoring % per drive and 28th in average points per drive. http://www.pro-footb...rs/2013/opp.htm EDIT: Looking historically, top 5 in both seems to guarantee a playoff spot. Edited January 3, 2014 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Bills D allowed 25.78 yards per drive, number 1 in the NFL, even more impressive considering they faced 209 drives against, most in the NFL(33 more than the average of 186)... Bills D finished 4th in Defensive DVOA at -13.4 behind only Seattle, Carolina and Arizona a year after finishing 27th, despite having the 2nd worst opponent starting field position, averaging a drive start at their own 31 yard line(thanks offense) D finished 4th in plays per drive, 6th in TOP per drive, 4th in drive success rate, 8th in punts per drive , 13th in 3 and outs per drive, 6th in both points and touchdowns per redzone appearance... Finished 10th in total yards allowed, 6th in yards per play, and the reason other teams seemingly converted so many 3rd downs against us is because we forced more 3rd downs than any other team in the NFL(245), even tho at 37% we were 13th in the NFL... Pretty impressive and shows how much improvement can happen in one year... On the flip side, the Bears were the reverse of us, going from #1 in defensive DVOA last year to 25th this year... As Mark Twain said, "there are lies, damn lies, and statistics." Yes, while all these numbers are good, the one thing we all know, when a team wanted to line up and run the ball down our throats, they could (exhibit A = last game of the season). Any time we fell behind early in a game, that's what would happen. Look at our loses this season and compare the opponents rushing yards in those games to the game we won. So yes, the Defense did improve, but until they can be true run stuffers, the most important stat will still tell it all: # of W vs. # of L ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibuya Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Our D was way overrated by fans. Couldn't stop the run gave up 3rd down and long way to many times, and rarely played well on the road or against quality teams Our O was just pathetic, and running a no huddle only serves to put the D on the field more often...which didn't help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Security Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Hmmmm...not true, I think the year we missed with Bledsoe when the Steelers backups beat us to keep us out we were top 10 Bills were 7th against the run that year, and since then the highest ever we were 22nd, and mostly all 28-32nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Bills D allowed 25.78 yards per drive, number 1 in the NFL, even more impressive considering they faced 209 drives against, most in the NFL(33 more than the average of 186)... Bills D finished 4th in Defensive DVOA at -13.4 behind only Seattle, Carolina and Arizona a year after finishing 27th, despite having the 2nd worst opponent starting field position, averaging a drive start at their own 31 yard line(thanks offense) D finished 4th in plays per drive, 6th in TOP per drive, 4th in drive success rate, 8th in punts per drive , 13th in 3 and outs per drive, 6th in both points and touchdowns per redzone appearance... Finished 10th in total yards allowed, 6th in yards per play, and the reason other teams seemingly converted so many 3rd downs against us is because we forced more 3rd downs than any other team in the NFL(245), even tho at 37% we were 13th in the NFL... Pretty impressive and shows how much improvement can happen in one year... On the flip side, the Bears were the reverse of us, going from #1 in defensive DVOA last year to 25th this year... Good stuff thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Bills D allowed 25.78 yards per drive, number 1 in the NFL, even more impressive considering they faced 209 drives against, most in the NFL(33 more than the average of 186)... Bills D finished 4th in Defensive DVOA at -13.4 behind only Seattle, Carolina and Arizona a year after finishing 27th, despite having the 2nd worst opponent starting field position, averaging a drive start at their own 31 yard line(thanks offense) D finished 4th in plays per drive, 6th in TOP per drive, 4th in drive success rate, 8th in punts per drive , 13th in 3 and outs per drive, 6th in both points and touchdowns per redzone appearance... Finished 10th in total yards allowed, 6th in yards per play, and the reason other teams seemingly converted so many 3rd downs against us is because we forced more 3rd downs than any other team in the NFL(245), even tho at 37% we were 13th in the NFL... Pretty impressive and shows how much improvement can happen in one year... On the flip side, the Bears were the reverse of us, going from #1 in defensive DVOA last year to 25th this year... Excellent post. The only problem is the stats are irrelevant. A team is like a body. It's like saying that you have the greatest kidneys and liver in the league, but you have lung cancer also. Where does that leave you? The team is only as strong as its weakest links and the Bills still have several weak links, hence the 6-10 record. The stats don't tell the whole story and can be very misleading. Remember London Fletcher recording a large number of tackles for the Bills every year? The stats didn't tell you that many of them were after large gains by the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Number of yards per drive and average plays per drive IMO, aren't the most telling of defensive stats. In the end points win games so I'd say points scored per drive and percentage of drives ending in offensive score tell the most: 2013 Season Percentage of drives ending in offensive score: 32.5% (13th in the NFL) Average points scored per drive: 1.68 (12th in the NFL) And they also confirm the eye test of the top 5 defenses (these are top 5 for both): Seattle Carolina Cincinnati San Francisco Kansas City and Arizona is 6th for both New England is top 10 for both Massive improvement from 2012 when the Bills were 21st in scoring % per drive and 28th in average points per drive. http://www.pro-footb...rs/2013/opp.htm EDIT: Looking historically, top 5 in both seems to guarantee a playoff spot. This is also interesting. I would also venture that if the Bills played in the NFC South or West, the D numbers would be different. What we are seeing is a relative improvement from last season, which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Security Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 We were good against the run that year with the loss against the Steelers. What was funny is we were scorched by a backup RB, and I think since then, The Bills constantly get scorched by backup RBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Bills D allowed 25.78 yards per drive, number 1 in the NFL, even more impressive considering they faced 209 drives against, most in the NFL(33 more than the average of 186)... Bills D finished 4th in Defensive DVOA at -13.4 behind only Seattle, Carolina and Arizona a year after finishing 27th, despite having the 2nd worst opponent starting field position, averaging a drive start at their own 31 yard line(thanks offense) D finished 4th in plays per drive, 6th in TOP per drive, 4th in drive success rate, 8th in punts per drive , 13th in 3 and outs per drive, 6th in both points and touchdowns per redzone appearance... Finished 10th in total yards allowed, 6th in yards per play, and the reason other teams seemingly converted so many 3rd downs against us is because we forced more 3rd downs than any other team in the NFL(245), even tho at 37% we were 13th in the NFL... Pretty impressive and shows how much improvement can happen in one year... On the flip side, the Bears were the reverse of us, going from #1 in defensive DVOA last year to 25th this year... i credit the COACHING change of Pettine for Wannstedt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Thanks for posting this. Great turnaround for the defense. They were very fun to watch this year. Pass rush is king on defense. As for the offense.......well the Indy preseason game was fun to watch. I know we are all sick of the up-the-middle runs on 1st and 2nd down but given a top 15 QB I would be willing to bet that Hackett and Marrone can stir up a top 10 offense. Marrone needs to go to "gameday" school this winter though. The better the team gets the more glaring those mistakes will look. How much fun was it watching teams GASH us running the ball? The defense is improved, but needs more help. Scott Pioli thinks the Bills need "another pass rusher" and I agree with him. Get K. Mack and D. McClullen with our first 2 picks, Fiedorowicz with the 3rd and we're playoff bound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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