Simon Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Eric Wood and Manny Lawson. They've both been great in both games and we haven't heard hardly a peep about either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'd give a vote to Cordy Glenn as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Collin Brown had another stinker but as a unit this o-line is exceeding expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'd give a vote to Cordy Glenn as well Yeah, we haven't heard much about him either. And he's blocking a lot of people. He's in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Lawson really has been a stud. Couldn't be happier with that acquisition at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJasper Probincrux III Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Lawson really has been a stud. Couldn't be happier with that acquisition at this point He gets to the ball in a bad mood. Some really nice pops on RBs the last 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I thought the offensive line as a whole did extremely well in both games so far, especially considering they were up against two very good defensive lines. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I thought the offensive line as a whole did extremely well in both games so far, especially considering they were up against two very good defensive lines. ah, very true. Two of the best front sevens in football imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Lawson really has been a stud. Couldn't be happier with that acquisition at this point I remember some people on the board not being to pleased when we signed him. Pointing out the lack of sacks he gets, not realizing how good he is against the run. Â I think after these two games he has shown how big of a signing he's been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis in NC Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Did Star Lotulelei play today? I do not recall hearing his name once during the game. Â So Wood (and the guards) must have done a hell of a good job today. Â Lotulelei caused havoc in the previous game. Today... nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Â I remember some people on the board not being to pleased when we signed him. Pointing out the lack of sacks he gets, not realizing how good he is against the run. Â I think after these two games he has shown how big of a signing he's been. Â Well said. Â I, for one, was excited about the signing of Lawson. Definitely good against the run, and knows how to lay the lumber on the RB when he gets the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLBighits Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Don't Forget Robey he has a nose for the football and has played extremely well and this team is turning the corner and brings tears to my eyes as we have been threw some tuff times, So God Bless the Bills Nation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'd give a vote to Cordy Glenn as well  This guy has been fantastic so far. Screw moving him inside, he's a LT and a really good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Lawson isn't going to light up flashy numbers, but I can't think of anyone else I want out there stopping the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 The O Line has been excellent this year. We're giving EJ more time than in years past. It felt that way the first game when I was there, but really had a chance to focus on it yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjjr Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Lawson has been great, Wood too....What a UDFA pickup Roby was. McKelvin is playing really well too. When Gilmore and Brooks are back healthy, the Bills look set at CB for a while. Also like the way A.Williams is hitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I am so glad I listen to the Bills radio feed versus the networks. Many times comments about Wood, Urbick and Lawson are made. Urbik blew open the hole on CJs last big run and Lawson always forced the play back into the teeth of the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Eric Wood and Manny Lawson. They've both been great in both games and we haven't heard hardly a peep about either. Ummmmmmm....who is the third guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Eric Wood and Manny Lawson. They've both been great in both games and we haven't heard hardly a peep about either. Â What I love about this thread is that you say there are three players in the title but don't kill the thread by naming them all right away. FWIW I agree with the first two. I can't wait to see the third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Ummmmmmm....who is the third guy? Â Maybe Simon the OP?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Maybe Simon the OP?? Nah, that couldn't be. I see that he added Glenn per Erik's recommendation but I enjoy finding fault with the Bearded Wonder (maybe onetime Bearded Wonder). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivermont Mike Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Eric Wood and Manny Lawson. They've both been great in both games and we haven't heard hardly a peep about either. Maybe Marrone's Bills are going to be one of those teams where you don't hear a lot about individual players (other than EJ, Stevie, Mario, and CJ) and the others just do their jobs. Like Easley blowing up that guy on the kick return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 McKelvin has made some horrific mistakes in the past, but give him credit for stepping it up this year with Gilmore out. I mean, he got into Steve Smith's face the entire game, which means he's one tough dude. So far so good for LM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 He gets to the ball in a bad mood. Some really nice pops on RBs the last 2 weeks. Â What a great phrase! Love it. Â Going to order new business cards: "Gets to his desk in a bad mood." I think the boss will like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 +1 on Lawson. Â I would also add Moats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I thought the offensive line as a whole did extremely well in both games so far, especially considering they were up against two very good defensive lines. Â New England and Carolina were 9th and 14th, respectively, against the run last year. Carolina actually hadn't given up more than 70 yards rushing in a game in over five games dating back to last season. Both are even better this season. While the going was tough, and understandably so, the Bills rushed for 136 and 149 yards against those two teams. I think the O-line, overall, did a pretty decent job against two teams who might, arguably, be in the top 10 in regard to their front sevens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankBulloughMellencamp Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 3. Manny Lawson - looks like him and Mario are having fun reliving their college days a bit ... I like his awareness & bad intentions out there. Â 2. Kiko Alonso - amazing start for a rookie ... athletic ability and instincts are off the charts. You could say the exact same thing about Manuel and/or Woods. Â 1. Leodis McKelvin - OK he badly judged a punt vs. NE, but he has played CB as good as you possibly can - and when it is most needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 You have to give huge credit to the whole offensive line. So many naysayers were complaining about letting Levitre walk and how bad the line was going to be. So far in two games against two pretty good defenses, they've allowed a grand total of 1 sack. That's a sack rate of 1.5% folks. Compare that to Tom Brady's 3.2% or Peyton Manning's 3.4% and you can see just how good it is. Cordy Glenn has been an absolute stud at LT. We have a team that's competing, which is more than I can say for a long long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankBulloughMellencamp Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 You have to give huge credit to the whole offensive line. So many naysayers were complaining about letting Levitre walk and how bad the line was going to be. So far in two games against two pretty good defenses, they've allowed a grand total of 1 sack. That's a sack rate of 1.5% folks. Compare that to Tom Brady's 3.2% or Peyton Manning's 3.4% and you can see just how good it is. Cordy Glenn has been an absolute stud at LT. We have a team that's competing, which is more than I can say for a long long time. Â Good points ... tough to single out O-line play from the sideline views we get on TV, but those 5 guys definitely deserve some positive chatter. Â Some people on here have been uber-critical of Colin Brown after one game, perhaps just because he is not as experienced nor as wealthy as Levitre. But with the limited amounts of hits and general duress EJ has had to withstand thus far, I am not sure why. And Erik Pears is a mountain of a man and a far better tackle than many Bills fans recognize. Plus Glenn-Wood-Urbik are playing about as solidly as you can, if not at all-league levels. And going double tight with Lee Smith is like having 6 OL's out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 You have to give huge credit to the whole offensive line. So many naysayers were complaining about letting Levitre walk and how bad the line was going to be. So far in two games against two pretty good defenses, they've allowed a grand total of 1 sack. That's a sack rate of 1.5% folks. Compare that to Tom Brady's 3.2% or Peyton Manning's 3.4% and you can see just how good it is. Cordy Glenn has been an absolute stud at LT. We have a team that's competing, which is more than I can say for a long long time. No doubt they've been pretty good, but Manuel has eluded three sacks (by my count) that would have brought down just about anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Â No doubt they've been pretty good, but Manuel has eluded three sacks (by my count) that would have brought down just about anyone else. Agreed. O-line is solid AND Manuel avoids when neccasary. That big throw to Woods for the 1st down would have been a 3 and out with Fitzy. (The one where Rivera challenged for some reason.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan's Revenge Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 The first couple weeks have come with a lot of praise for EJ, the defense and the coaching staff. This is all very justifiable. However, two guys who aren't getting enough attention and who have both played huge parts in the success so far this season are two of the big uglies along the offensive front - Cordy Glenn and Kraig Urbik. Â All Cordy Glenn has done (If my analysis after re-watching both games is correct) is not give up a single pressure through two games. I know PFF confirmed this for week one, and I do not have him down for having been beat on a pass rush in week two either. This is incredible. And it comes against two very solid defensive lines. Chandler Jones is no slouch, as the Jets Pro Bowl left tackle found out the hard way last Thursday when he burned him for two sacks and multiple pressures. Then this past week Glenn spent the day squaring off against Greg Hardy and Charles Johnson who can both really get after the quarterback with both speed and power, and completely dominated. He has some of the quickest feet you will see for a man that size, and consistently anchors so that he is not beaten by a power rush right at him. He has also shown well in the run game, particularly in getting to the second-level, as an unfortunate Jon Beason found out in a 1st quarter run by CJ Spiller in which Glenn lit him up 5 yards past the line of scrimmage. Folks, we could be looking at an All-Pro season for #77 if he keeps this up. Â As good as Cordy Glenn has been in pass protection, Kraig Urbik has been just as dominant in run blocking at times. Urbik has been consistently sealing his man on running plays, and opening up huge lanes for CJ and Fred, specifically on designed cut-back plays (Some of which, as we know, CJ missed in week one). I noticed at least three separate plays last week in which Urbik blasted off the ball and took his man completely out of the play, leaving huge holes for the backs to exploit. I mean they had 7 yards handed to them before even having to make a guy miss because of Urbik blocks. This was very impressive. He has also more than held his own in pass protection. Consistently provides a clean pocket for Manuel and rarely misses an assignment. Truly one of the most underrated parts of this team. I'm glad we gave him an extension when we did. Â On one sour note, as good as these two have been, Colin Brown has been absolutely awful. He is getting manhandled by just about any and every one that has lined up against him so far this season. IMO, if he doesn't significantly pick up his play within the next week or two, he should be cut. There just has to be someone, either in-house or out, that can produce better results than what he is giving this team right now. Â Most importantly, GO BILLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Good analysis. I haven't even thought about Glenn which I think is a good thing. I've noticed Urbik playing well and also, it seems unanimous that Brown has been abysmal. Â Pears has been decent too IMO. Edited September 17, 2013 by stony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 You think Legursky gets a look at LG once he's ready to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 You think Legursky gets a look at LG once he's ready to go? Â I'd certainly think it's still an "open competition." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 You think Legursky gets a look at LG once he's ready to go? Â I don't think they have any choice but to give Legursky a shot. Although somewhat better from a discipline standpoint in week 2, Brown has been absolutely putrid. I can't believe they didn't make a run at Velasco when he was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I mentioned in another thread yesterday that LG will be a significant issue in the Bills draft next year. I would not be shocked to see them pick CB, LG in rounds one and two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan's Revenge Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I'd certainly think it's still an "open competition." Â It has to be. Anything is better than Brown if he continues down this path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Â Â It has to be. Anything is better than Brown if he continues down this path. Â I have said the same thing in a few threads. If the bills FO is not actively trying to find someone now, they are crazy. Brown is a practice squad type talent. He shouldn't even be on the roster. Legursky is an okay swing backup. They need to find someone else ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 You think Legursky gets a look at LG once he's ready to go? Â yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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