FluffHead Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) NFLN's Ian Rapaport @RapSheet: Don't expect #Bills safety Jairus Byrd to show up at voluntary conditioning workouts Tuesday, absent a long-term deal. Hasn't signed tag yet @RapSheet: Bills S Jairus Byrd and Broncos T Ryan Clady are the only 1s who haven't signed tags. Clady says he will eventually. Byrd has said nothing. @RapSheet: Yup. Jairus Byrd expected to stay away from voluntary work until he has one. RT @cp382 @RapSheet he wants a long term deal huh? Edited April 15, 2013 by FluffHead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 So does he want a long term deal with the Bills or does he want to be somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 turn that frown upside down, Jairus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Gun10 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Get this Done!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Couldn't this be construed as good news? I mean, if he didn't want to be here, he could have just signed it and left next year, right? Instead, he wants to sign long-term. Unless he's angling for a trade.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Great news in my book. Sign him. We need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 So does he want a long term deal with the Bills or does he want to be somewhere else? Rapaport says "please ask again later" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Disappointing especially with a new coaching staff. Wouldn't be surprised if a trade is in the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Couldn't this be construed as good news? I mean, if he didn't want to be here, he could have just signed it and left next year, right? Instead, he wants to sign long-term. Unless he's angling for a trade.. Unless something has changed can't the bills franchise him again next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Unless something has changed can't the bills franchise him again next year? With a large raise, yes. It escalates quickly to prevent a guy from being trapped long term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 With a large raise, yes. It escalates quickly to prevent a guy from being trapped long term Meh...20% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 It seems like there are mixed reactions to this, but this seems kind of negative to me. Either he is trying to use whatever leverage he has to push the Bills to give him a long-term deal (which would not be bad news) or he wants out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Unless something has changed can't the bills franchise him again next year? When you franchise tag a player for a second straight year, his franchise tag value increases to 120% of the first year franchise figure. So the $6.96 million they are paying him for this year becomes $8.35 million next year. And if they were to apply the tag for a 3rd consecutive year, it goes to 144% of the first year which would be over $10 million. It can and has been done but teams (and the player) for different reasons prefer a long term deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 OR he just doesnt want to get injured during a stupid mini-camp when he has NO deal yet. Him not showing up to camp has nothing to do with whether he wants a long term deal or a trade. Either way, he'd be stupid to risk injury of any kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 The fact that he has not signed his franchise tender can be interpreted several different ways. He's not talking (nor are the Bills) so we can only guess at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Eh, let me know when he says he'll never play for the Bills again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 The name Eugene Parker should ring a bell around here. He's Byrd's agent and just happened to be Jason Peters' representative. Good luck Russ/Overdorf. http://www.kval.com/sports/Former-Ducks--194387051.html Buffalo spent a boatload on UFA's last year in hopes of getting over the edge. Now that Buddy's first rebuild has failed miserably, it looks like they're unable to re-sign one of their own draft picks as those contracts are inhibiting them. And before anyone says you can't sign them all, Byrd has been on the radar for more than just one season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 It appears that he does not want to be here. He has value. Let's get good compensation while we have some leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 It appears that he does not want to be here. He has value. Let's get good compensation while we have some leverage. Agreed. Any team in market for a safety in 1st round comes to mind. Just so happens 3 of those teams (St. Louis, Cincy, and San Fran) have a lot of extra picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 The name Eugene Parker should ring a bell around here. He's Byrd's agent and just happened to be Jason Peters' representative. Good luck Russ/Overdorf. http://www.kval.com/sports/Former-Ducks--194387051.html Buffalo spent a boatload on UFA's last year in hopes of getting over the edge. Now that Buddy's first rebuild has failed miserably, it looks like they're unable to re-sign one of their own draft picks as those contracts are inhibiting them. And before anyone says you can't sign them all, Byrd has been on the radar for more than just one season. Knowing Parker he will want to get money for the last few years on top of being highest paid going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I have held my tongue on Byrd for a while...but I honestly don't think he is as good as his reputation seems to be. Now, granted, he has been a good contributor on some really horrid defenses, and he seemed to have found his ball-hawking form again, to a degree...but other than the picks, I just don't see him as an elite player, especially on the Bills. I would let him go, and get the best deal possible for him. It often seems that when guys become free-agents, their reputation gets inflated. I like Byrd, and would rather have him than not, but if it means paying him some ridiculous sum, or having him hold the franchise over the coals for crazy money, I say let him go... the Bills have been creating holes in their roster for years, why stop with Byrd? IMO, this team is still a ways away from contention...stockpile draft picks now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) I like Byrd, and would rather have him than not, but if it means paying him some ridiculous sum, or having him hold the franchise over the coals for crazy money, I say let him go... the Bills have been creating holes in their roster for years, why stop with Byrd? IMO, this team is still a ways away from contention...stockpile draft picks now... Personally I would rather the Bills stockpile good proven players rather than draft picks. Our draft picks rarely turn into good players. So I'm in the lock Byrd in long term camp Edited April 15, 2013 by FluffHead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantankerous Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 What a bunch of fickle fans some of you are. I guess some people don't appreciate a good player when they see one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_MacDonald Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 This looks complicated, hope they get a long term deal figured out and there is no hold out coming soon. Our D needs all the time to learn the new system and gel they can get.... http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000159838/article/jairus-byrd-isnt-expected-to-attend-buffalo-bills-conditioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Maybe he's training with Ralph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Bills fan Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 He doesn't have a contract, so of course he's not going to the conditioning program. Nothing go see here. (Yet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Am i the only one who thinks hes overrated? He makes great plays on poorly thrown balls.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 This looks complicated, hope they get a long term deal figured out and there is no hold out coming soon. Our D needs all the time to learn the new system and gel they can get.... http://www.nfl.com/n...ls-conditioning That's it trade him!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Am i the only one who thinks hes overrated? He makes great plays on poorly thrown balls.... Probably not but you would both be wrong. He is a sure tackler and really gets beat long, plus he is capable of being a ball hawk. Very good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Am i the only one who thinks hes overrated? He makes great plays on poorly thrown balls.... yep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Not a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Knowing Parker he will want to get money for the last few years on top of being highest paid going forward. We didn't sign Levitre so why sign this clown..so many people on this board said you should not over pay so lets see what everyone says about this situation. We have people on this board suggesting we draft an O lineman in round 1 (after having a good one here that we lost) , now maybe it should be a safety also...or in round 2. We need to ask the question, why do our homegrown draft picks that work out want to leave. Why do we pay guys like Mario too much, but we cannot pay our own guys or piss them off so much they want to leave. By not signing these guys it just keeps us from moving ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 $16 million a year for Mario makes less cap available for our other players. That's bad for morale of other good players here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Disappointing especially with a new coaching staff. Wouldn't be surprised if a trade is in the works. It's just working out. He can lift weights and stay in shape on his own. No big deal right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 What a bunch of fickle fans some of you are. I guess some people don't appreciate a good player when they see one. Eugene Parker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 the Bills have the leverage......cap number for Safeties is low enough that they can tag him again next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) NFLN's Ian Rapaport @RapSheet: Don't expect #Bills safety Jairus Byrd to show up at voluntary conditioning workouts Tuesday, absent a long-term deal. Hasn't signed tag yet @RapSheet: Bills S Jairus Byrd and Broncos T Ryan Clady are the only 1s who haven't signed tags. Clady says he will eventually. Byrd has said nothing. @RapSheet: Yup. Jairus Byrd expected to stay away from voluntary work until he has one. RT @cp382 @RapSheet he wants a long term deal huh? I say there is about a 3% chance Byrd is with the Bills in 2014 The Bills CAN tag him, but will they, knowing he probably would never sign here for anything less than what would make him the highest paid S in the league? Edited April 15, 2013 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibuya Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Meh...20% How many 20% a year raises have you received. That is a Huge increase. The Bills might be willing to trade Byrd and draft one of the top S in this years draft. It would have to be for more then just an early 1st rd pick to be worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I have held my tongue on Byrd for a while...but I honestly don't think he is as good as his reputation seems to be. Now, granted, he has been a good contributor on some really horrid defenses, and he seemed to have found his ball-hawking form again, to a degree...but other than the picks, I just don't see him as an elite player, especially on the Bills. I would let him go, and get the best deal possible for him. It often seems that when guys become free-agents, their reputation gets inflated. I like Byrd, and would rather have him than not, but if it means paying him some ridiculous sum, or having him hold the franchise over the coals for crazy money, I say let him go... the Bills have been creating holes in their roster for years, why stop with Byrd? IMO, this team is still a ways away from contention...stockpile draft picks now... I have to respectfully disagree. There's virtually no debate about Byrd among...anyone...fans, local media, national media, players and coaches. It's an absolute consensus. Yours is the first contrarian view point I've heard. So, unless you see something that nobody else on Earth does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I like Byrd and all....id like to keep him....but whats he really worth? The last thing the team needs or wants is distractions! I hate guys who "hold out" for a longer deal....hes going to get one eventually. Just be happy with the 6 million your making in one year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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