DJB Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, GerstAusGosheim said: If Diggs spills the beans on :13, this board is going to explode. I hope he does 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 It's impossible to know right now, so I gave it a C. The receiving core is obviously worse as of right now but I got to think the Bills have a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Diggs was a great receiver for the Bills and it's no coincidence that Josh's career took off with his arrival. It's disappointing to see so many Bills fans turn on diggs That’s what most fans do. It’s a coping mechanism of the loss they know it will be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 16 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I hold fast to the belief that nothing matters except Josh. He is the key to the team. I like shifting to a Patriots mold of wide receiver, guys who run precise routes who Brady didn’t have to force the ball to. No true number 1. Ideally your QB can drop back, read the defense and throw the ball to the open guy, and trust that those guys will be where they are supposed to be. That isn’t Gabe Davis. And Josh had some pressure on him to force the ball to Diggs. Those guys are now gone. This is a good shift. Now this is obviously a downgrade in talent, but in the long run we may be better off. In my mind Dalton Kincaid should be the number 1 target ala Gronk with the Pats. 100% they need to draft two guys early imo. It’s ok to be upset about losing Diggs. It is also ok to say good riddance. Both groups are right. They gave it 4 years and it didn’t work out. It’s also ok to get emotional about it, but that’s kind of a waste of time. Now everyone gets to see what Diggs would like in the Shanahan style offense. Houston will be good as long as Stroud doesn’t feel forced to feed Diggs. He’s basically the number 3 there. Finally, in terms of compensation, obviously it isn’t good. But the market dictates that and it just kind of is what it is. We don’t know exactly what was going on behind closed doors, but for Beane to eat 30 million of dead cap, one must assume it was at the point of no return. It’s a new beginning and as long as we have Josh, we have a chance. Agree with Josh we have a chance, but we need a number 1–the last 2 postseasons showed that. Josh is not on the same planet as Brady in terms of reading defenses (most qb are not). Hopefully we draft one of the big 4 and get another good vet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I don't care what we ever got for him.......getting rid of Diggs is an A+ in my books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Robert Paulson said: Samuel takes over Diggs routes. I saw his highlight film and i was-those are Diggs' routes, this won't work. now i get it. The questions for me is who will stretch the field? Shakir or a rookie maybe unless they expect Kincaid to be Kelce. I’m alright with the trade because I don’t think Diggs is the same guy anymore. I am worried about not having someone who can stretch the field. I don’t know if Kincaid will ever be that guy. I think he can be great, but I don’t see any Kelce in him. Additionally, KC did just fine with mediocre receivers, but Allen is a different QB. He needs someone who can make big plays, win contested catches, and stretch the field. Allen slinging it downfield is too important to not have that type of receiver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, buffblue said: I can potentially get on board with this. No matter what, I won't quite know how to feel until the summer Like Plenz is helping me point out. Look how many of these guys didn't come in the first. Especially recently. A lot of guys look real good because their QB and college system. This is the NFL and the athleticism of the CB, as well as the skill set of defense has changed. Defenses are skilled now, not knockout types. They're shells of themselves playing flag football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 In terms of value a future 2nd is less the ideal for a top 5 wr. Curious how Chris Simms spins this. Multiple times down the stretch last year he stated that defenses were not going out of their way to take away Diggs. At most they might bracket him with a body and alignment but not truly doubling him. A 30 year old plus wr traded for a day 2 pick is about top of market. On paper its a loss we will see if on the field and standing if it will be. Compensation is about right. Truly and end of an Era for Bills football. Does not mean the team going forward cant meet new heights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, DJB said: I hope he does I think lots of beans, from both sides, are about to be spilled. It’s a breakup that sounds like needed to have happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: A lot of homers on this board. Any other board this trade is an F Interesting calling people homers when Diggs is basically in your user name. Maybe it is a negative for this year (maybe), but it is undoubtedly a positive for the future. You can't sit here and say that having Diggs on that contract for 4 more years would be a good thing. Did Beane screw up in giving that extension? Yes, and now he's taking his medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, MasterStrategist said: Double dipping in one of the deepest WR class, looks like a strong possibility. Rebuild with 2 young WRs, get comp in 2025 and cap relief next yr THIS is how a shrewd GM does it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Diggs is better than any rookie until proven otherwise, which is a complete unknown. With 30 mil dead cap next season. It was a bad decision. there were multiple rookies better than diggs last yr 3 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Wow!! Just saw this online and came here. First thing for me is that I said again and again that it wouldn't happen, that there were way too many negatives for the Bills to cut him. But also that trading was at least possible, but really unlikely, unless he forced his way out. So, first, I was wrong. I did put in the caveat, but I just didn't think it would happen. So, how wrong I was isn't possible to say exactly yet, but wrong. Significantly wrong. Second, I have to fight my confirmation bias. Because I added the caveat, I have to fight an automatic belief that I know why this happened, that he did force his way out. I will try, for that reason, not to comment too much on the reasons it happened. My opinion is compromised. It still seems like the most likely reason for this. But perhaps it wasn't quite that he forced his way out, but that it just began to look like if we kept going with him, it was going to become uncomfortable. Just hear Anthony Prohaska from Cover1 say this, "Because of the financial implications, you don't make a move like this unless it's absolutely necessary from a roster perspective. from a team perspective, from a culture perspective." Yup. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lK64gxxwMU He continued, "The Bills right now, without Stefon Diggs on the field, are not a better football team than they were in 2023. Even a diminished version of Stefon Diggs is still a very very very good football player, and as we talked about, early in the season he was on a historic pace, another record-setting year for a #1 WR who had previous record-setting years here." And, "No matter how you slice it, the Bills are not a better football team for moving Stefon Diggs, jettisoning him to the Houston Texans. And especially considering what they got back in that package, also having to give some picks themselves, it really just seems like a 'we've gotta get rid of this guy' kind of move, even though schematically and on the field it hurts you, in addition to the financial implications." Yeah, that. Jettisoning appears to be the right word. Jeez. And I'm so depressed that that second rounder is from 2025, although I've seen at least one source say it was 2024. But nearly everyone says 2025. Man, depressing. They have taken a major step back for this year. no they haven't lol dont conflate you being wrong w the team being wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, CaptnCoke11 said: That’s what most fans do. It’s a coping mechanism of the loss they know it will be. not really bad to turn on dogging it diggs. he turned on the bills first, so screw him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Why trade him in the conference? If Houston goes & beats us & wins the Superbowl I'm not going to be happy. Only team that would take him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I've waited to post on this until I could find some positive spin, but I just can't. The Bills WR room, right now, consists of the 3rd option on the last-place 2023 Washington Commanders and a 5th-round slot receiver. That's it. The Buffalo Bills currently have ZERO elite weapons on offense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Should have an incomplete listed, but give it a C right now. Grade will change after the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Can't give it more than a C. Diggs put the organization in a tough spot and forced his way out, basically. Impossible for the Bills to come out on top in a situation like this. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Again, though, for those of you saying "Beane has a plan" - if he had a "plan" why didn't it involve targeting more WRs in LAST YEAR'S draft than Justin Shorter? Now they're scrambling to fill a hole that should've been addressed already. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, GerstAusGosheim said: If Diggs spills the beans on :13, this board is going to explode. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdragon2 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Diggs was a great receiver for the Bills and it's no coincidence that Josh's career took off with his arrival. It's disappointing to see so many Bills fans turn on diggs Fans started to turn on him when he went from being a team first fantastic football player to a me first decent football player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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