TheFunPolice Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 only if he's the size of a small car no 298 pound quick guys who will just get pushed aside and run over all game long 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 17 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Basham Oliver top10 pick Phillips Basham was mainly a DE and drafted late 2nd. Oliver is a fine player. Are you talking about Harrison Phillips who was picked in the late 3rd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 13 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Darius Robinson feels like a possible pick if we don't go WR. As has the height we like at DE but can also move inside on passing downs. Yet again until.roster filled out tough call what we draft first and of course who's available. Please no. Another guy who plays multiple spots but doesn't really make any impact at any of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just now, OldTimer1960 said: Basham was mainly a DE and drafted late 2nd. Oliver is a fine player. Are you talking about Harrison Phillips who was picked in the late 3rd? I'm talking about the inordinate amount of resources they've poured into the defensive line yes 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: If they pull off DT Jer'Zhan Newton or Byron Murphy and then also get someone like WR Franklin or Leggete in the 2nd it would be a home run. If I knew it was any combo of DT/WR of these four players I’d kick back and enjoy the rest of the draft without a care in the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Most of the WRs fans are ok with at 28 will be there deep into the 2nd round. The Bills will get one. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 17 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Darius Robinson feels like a possible pick if we don't go WR. As has the height we like at DE but can also move inside on passing downs. Yet again until.roster filled out tough call what we draft first and of course who's available. This is one of the reasons I prefer him to Chop if they choose that direction. Myself, I strongly hope they go WR, and wait till the second to grab a DT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 It’s so difficult to have a conversation with the WR train people. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Most of the WRs fans are ok with at 28 will be there deep into the 2nd round. The Bills will get one. The best WRs in a a deep draft are still going before #60. If you tell me for sure Legette will be there, then go ahead and take the DT, but no one can know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 13 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I mean who cares but the story of this mock is the Jets trading up for MHJ If that were in their plans, they wouldn't have signed Mike Williams today to an up to 15m contract to go along with Garrett Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: It’s so difficult to have a conversation with the WR train people. We need a good wideout on a rookie deal Explain why we need another first round pick on the defensive line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I’m gonna flip ***** if we don’t go WR round 1. Not that anybody cares. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 25 minutes ago, H2o said: And gives the Chiefs Adonai Mitchell. Can't see us taking a 3-tech in Round 1 when we have Oliver. Dude is clueless. I agree with you, we aren’t drafting Ed’s backup. I didn’t even see who that is yet, but we will draft a guy who will be seeing more of the field. As for Jeremiah, I wouldn’t call him clueless. I think he’s one of the better ones out there, but has a financial obligation to crank some stuff out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 16 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Sure, you might find the 8th, 9th or 10th best wr, get a guy with average speed or hands. But is that REALLY addressing the position? Sun shines on a dog's ass now and again. Unfortunately, our guy isn't either of those guys, is he? My point is if he’s a talented guy and fits the need, take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 30 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: DT is a great idea. I don’t understand why fans hate DL so much. Because we want to make a Super Bowl run and after years of investing most of our money and draft capital into the line it hasn’t worked. Time to invest in Josh since he’s the only reason we win it all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: We need a good wideout on a rookie deal Explain why we need another first round pick on the defensive line If you watch the Bills defense you understand why DT is important. The WRs are just as good in the 2nd round as they are in the first round at 28. Well let me rephrase that. If Brian Thomas is there it’s an easy pick. Im also good with a trade up in the 1st for a WR. But staying at 28 or even trading back some, DT makes sense in that late 1st early 2nd range. Also getting a WR in the 2nd. Edited March 19 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 13 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Basham was mainly a DE and drafted late 2nd. Oliver is a fine player. Are you talking about Harrison Phillips who was picked in the late 3rd? ….and turned out to be good enough that he got a big offer and we couldn’t afford to keep him. . Edited March 19 by Augie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 4 minutes ago, Maynard said: I’m gonna flip ***** if we don’t go WR round 1. Not that anybody cares. Imagine that WR hardly gets targets as a rookie? It’s a real possibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 8 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If that were in their plans, they wouldn't have signed Mike Williams today to an up to 15m contract to go along with Garrett Wilson. It's called going all in as imagine Saleh knows he's gotta get the Jets in playoff or he's gone, same as the GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Omg I’m so pissed who this random mock draft has us taking!!! 🤬🤬🤬 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I like Newton. I would be torn between Newton and Mitchell. Above my pay grade, that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 28 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: That's likely to be the highest pick we ever get in the Allen era And what WR did you want them to take at 9? You do realize a lot of you on this board were campaigning to take Noah Fant at 9 right after Hockenson went 8th? Marquise Brown was the first WR taken at 25 and not a lot of people liked him and Ed Oliver is a better player than him. So, lets not pretend Oliver was a bad pick at 9, in fact, of all the players who graded high enough to go 9th that year, Oliver is probably the best one and the only one I believe still on the team that drafted him. Not to mention, a lot of people had Oliver going before the 9th pick too. 5 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 35 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: DL in general. There's been a ton of capital both draft and FA at it, and it hasn't gone well. So get lesser talented guys (aka lower draft picks) in hope they to fill in holes makes sense because....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: And what WR did you want them to take at 9? You do realize a lot of you on this board were campaigning to take Noah Fant at 9 right after Hockenson went 8th? Marquise Brown was the first WR taken at 25 and not a lot of people liked him and Ed Oliver is a better player than him. So, lets not pretend Oliver was a bad pick at 9, in fact, of all the players who graded high enough to go 9th that year, Oliver is probably the best one and the only one I believe still on the team that drafted him. Not to mention, a lot of people had Oliver going before the 9th pick too. That's not the point I was making The roi on dline has not been there. Time to take a different approach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just now, GoBills808 said: That's not the point I was making The roi on dline has not been there. Time to take a different approach They don’t draft DT’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: They don’t draft DT’s. They do. What they actually don't draft is wideouts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just now, GoBills808 said: They do. What they actually don't draft is wideouts The last DTs they drafted were in 2019 and 2018. What are you talking about? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I wouldn't hate a first round DL player. There could be other WR's like Troy Franklin that can be a nice add for both short term depth and long term development at WR. I just don't want to see a first round safety. The Bills can go WR, OL or DL at pick 28 and I am fine. Either make sure Josh always has a ton of good WR's and an heir apparent for Diggs or strengthen either side of the line which is always a good idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: The last DTs they drafted were in 2019 and 2018. What are you talking about? They've never drafted a wideout in the Josh Allen era before the fourth round. What are you talking about? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 49 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: /wrist Good Lord, this would be an AWFUL idea Well, I'm kind of glad that a draft pundit is predicting it....other than QB (which was, Durr....) when have the draftniks been correct in their predictions.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just now, GoBills808 said: They've never drafted a wideout in the Josh Allen era before the fourth round. What are you talking about? That’s because they traded the 1st for the young WR. They also just drafted another 1st round receiving target last year. Kincaid will be 2nd in targets next year. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: That's not the point I was making The roi on dline has not been there. Time to take a different approach That was 2019 though, it was the first real investment into the DL in terms of drafting. And our DL needs help in this draft regardless. I am not advocating for DL at 28, I want a WR too. But if the BPA is a DT, I would rather take the better player then try and use some of those 10 other picks to move up from our 2nd rounder and grab one of the guys like Coleman, Franklin, Leggette, McConkey, Pearsall from that group most likely going in the 2nd round. Worst mistake is passing up talent to reach for a position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: They don’t draft DT’s. They only have 2 viable DT's on the roster in D.Jones and Ed Oliver, in past years they have had a lot of solid vet DT's plus Ed in the mix. This year Poona Ford and Tim Settle have signed elsewhere and Jordan Phillips is still a free agent. The Bills probably will enter the draft actually need to fill out the DT rotation by drafting at least one DT if not two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 16 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Omg I’m so pissed who this random mock draft has us taking!!! 🤬🤬🤬 Oh, just wait until we actually draft some guy! 😂 😂 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Well I already had this argument today and Jeremiah is on the same thought I have is. DT is a huge need and it drops off big time from end of round 1 to end of round 2 much more than it would for a WR. If you want to take WR, drop down 10 spots you’re going to get the same guy allowing you to trade up for a DT in round 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Well I already had this argument today and Jeremiah is on the same thought I have is. DT is a huge need and it drops off big time from end of round 1 to end of round 2 much more than it would for a WR. If you want to take WR, drop down 10 spots you’re going to get the same guy allowing you to trade up for a DT in round 2. And the guy Jeremiah has us taking is Jer'Zhan Newton, a top 20 prospect by most. I could see the Bills taking WR 1st then getting Kris Jenkins also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: And the guy Jeremiah has us taking is Jer'Zhan Newton, a top 20 prospect by most. I could see the Bills taking WR 1st then getting Kris Jenkins also. The argument I would make is teams are going to reach for guys like Jenkins/Fiske and the two Robinsons because they’re the last “difference maker” guys on the DLine. Chop is going in the 20s, Darius is going in the 30s imo and Jenkins and Fiske will be gone before pick 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 34 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: They drafted Oliver 5 years ago. What are we arguing here? The Bills need to draft a DT. This is common knowledge. I think drafting a DL in round 1 has proven to be a recipe for early exits from the the playoffs..............so fans are ready to try a different recipe. Investing the biggest personnel chip of the offseason on a WR and trying to get the offense back to that 2020 level where they invested that chip in Stef Diggs and then scored 31 points per game and went the farthest in the playoffs that they have in 30 years. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Augie said: I agree with you, we aren’t drafting Ed’s backup. I didn’t even see who that is yet, but we will draft a guy who will be seeing more of the field. As for Jeremiah, I wouldn’t call him clueless. I think he’s one of the better ones out there, but has a financial obligation to crank some stuff out. I like Jeremiah. What I meant by my statement is he is clueless in regard to the Bills with this pick. Beane seems to go BPA, but BPA at a position of need. Sometimes it works out, others not as much. JA17, Oliver, traded a 1st for Diggs, Rousseau, Elam, Kincaid. You can argue that TE wasn't a need per say, but another offensive weapon for Josh was. Kincaid was arguably the best weapon on the board. So while I wouldn't rule out them drafting defense, I surely don't think it will be a 3-tech DT. Edited March 19 by H2o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I think drafting a DL in round 1 has proven to be a recipe for early exits from the the playoffs..............so fans are ready to try a different recipe. Investing the biggest personnel chip of the offseason on a WR and trying to get the offense back to that 2020 level where they invested that chip in Stef Diggs and then scored 31 points per game and went the farthest in the playoffs that they have in 30 years. The WR investment is more about replacing Diggs. Future investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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