SoonerBillsFan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Congrats fellow fans on living in mediocrity hell. Josh has to hold out this offseason. Poor kid just can't afford to waste anymore of his career on this clown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 This is a surprise why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I do see the reasoning, with the way the offense has turned around with the OC change, the injuries to key players on defense. But at the same time his decision making and along with decisions on when the offense should switch to burning clock and that god awful prevent defense that never does *****, it's wearing pretty ***** thin. This year we just have a record that makes it obvious. I do agree with this. I really hope McD steps down from DC for the rest of this year, then depending how it goes, either keep the change or bring in fresh blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: The ONLY way McD is not the HC come next September is if Allen goes to Pegula after the season, and lays down the ultimatum…. him or ME! And he needs to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, SoonerBillsFan said: Congrats fellow fans on living in mediocrity hell. Josh has to hold out this offseason. Poor kid just can't afford to waste anymore of his career on this clown. lol mediocrity hell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 “four sources familiar with Terry Pegula’s thinking” Terry hasnt faced his dilemma before, he doesnt know what hes gonna do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said: This is a surprise why? Surprising no. Disappointing yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) Pegula will change his tune if and when Josh Allen ever requests a trade or expresses any other dissatisfaction with how the organization is run. I really don't want #17 to end up being the Dan Marino of the modern era, all due to late game coaching blunders. Josh Allen is buffalo. He sells the tickets that make Pegula all that money. In the end, his sway should supersede that of McD or even Beane. Edited November 30, 2023 by Lost 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, uticaclub said: “four sources familiar with Terry Pegula’s thinking” Terry hasnt faced his dilemma before, he doesnt know what hes gonna do “Familiar with his thinking” sure sounds like bleeping speculation to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: lol mediocrity hell? Yeah. Been a fan for decades now, want a superbowl win and it isn't happening with the HC we have now. I don't give a damn about anything else. This team is regressing, McDermott can't coach against a 2 min offense to save his ***and there is zero debate on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 The people that are happy with McDermott and want him to stay... Are you ok with more late game losses due to coaching blunders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Hopkins Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: The fans need to relax. It’s been embarrassing on this board the last few months. Hold yourselves the way you want the Bills organization to hold themselves. I want the organization to care about winning. Edited November 30, 2023 by Julio Hopkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EffKCChiefs Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 31 minutes ago, QB Bills said: Disheartening, to say the least. My hope is that he either up and quits for his dream job in Carolina that has opened up or failing that, Allen has a chat with Pegula and tells him "it's him or me". What if Pegula then gets rid of Allen 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Julio Hopkins said: I want the organization to care about winning. A little short sighted, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, EffKCChiefs said: What if Pegula then gets rid of Allen 😳 Then Terry can enjoy sparse crowds at home games. Don't think it can happen. Look at attendance in the 1970's and 84 and 85 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<bills4life> Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, alluro said: As it should be. 35 consecutive regular season games of losing by one score or less. We are always in these contests. The next closest coach has like 13. I guess if the goal every year is to be relevant, sniff the playoffs or lose in the first or second due to poor coaching decisions, then I would say yes he is our man. If the goal is to regularly compete in afc championship games and super bowls, sadly he is not the answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Yeah. Been a fan for decades now, want a superbowl win and it isn't happening with the HC we have now. I don't give a damn about anything else. This team is regressing, McDermott can't coach against a 2 min offense to save his ***and there is zero debate on this. Sweet me too. We haven’t been In mediocrity hell though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 He should be fired if we don't make the playoffs, favoritism be damned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: The ONLY way McD is not the HC come next September is if Allen goes to Pegula after the season, and lays down the ultimatum…. him or ME! Can hope. He's not helped him nearly enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Hopkins Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: A little short sighted, no? Being short sighted is keeping Micky D because of Josh Allen's success. But that's on the fan base to figure out. Pegula is content with making money, winning is secondary to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 38 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Agreed, it’ll take the players going into Terry to voice their concerns in order for it to happen. I’m not sure how well McD is regarded in the locker room. There was a poll a short while ago of coaches players would love to play for and he didn’t get a single vote, not that it matters a ton, but it was interesting. I think that the players being off team McD would be influential and also the media could cause shame if the proper storylines catch hold - we will see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 42 minutes ago, alluro said: As it should be. 35 consecutive regular season games of losing by one score or less. We are always in these contests. The next closest coach has like 13. Yeah we really enjoy almost winning a super bowl *&%$ing awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, <bills4life> said: I guess if the goal every year is to be relevant, sniff the playoffs or lose in the first or second due to poor coaching decisions, then I would say yes he is our man. If the goal is to regularly compete in afc championship games and super bowls, sadly he is not the answer. And you realize, then, that the only coaching answers are AR and BB? Because they’ve been the only coaches to consistently get there? I get McD isn’t perfect, and may never win a SB even with an elite QB. Shoot, it may take lighting in a bottle to get one, but fans complaints also explain 99% of the coaches out there. I get we likely need to move on, but this mindset that he is easily replaceable is baffling to me. 1 minute ago, Julio Hopkins said: Being short sighted is keeping Micky D because of Josh Allen's success. But that's on the fan base to figure out. Pegula is content with making money, winning is secondary to him. As evident to…? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 42 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Not really gung-ho on firing vs. keeping McD either way, but I do think he inarguably has a built-in excuse in the multiple significant injuries. Injuries are not an excuse. We are 12 weeks into the season and our QB, RB1, WR1, WR2, WR3 and ALL FIVE of our starting o lineman have not missed a SINGLE GAME. Do you realize how crazy that is? Not making the playoffs this year would be a complete failure and year 3 in a row of regression. To hear there is "zero" chance he gets fired, regardless of how the season ends, has to just suck the life out of you as a fan. 4 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Mc13seconds isn't going anywhere. He's had one bad year, but really bad😕. Recent extension, and Pegs loves him and doesn't have the heart to start over. A lot of us want him gone, it's wasted effort as he's got a job until the new stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Process said: Injuries are not an excuse. We are 12 weeks into the season and our QB, RB1, WR1, WR2, WR3 and ALL FIVE of our starting o lineman have not missed a SINGLE GAME. Do you realize how crazy that is? Not making the playoffs this year would be a complete failure and year 3 in a row of regression. To hear there is "zero" chance he gets fired, regardless of how the season ends, has to just suck the life out of you as a fan. It’s just someone’s opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 49 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: From an article in the Athletic: Welp. Sources close to T Pegula speak I have honestly always doubted he would get fired either. Maybe if he lost out the rest of the way, but I don't think Pegula pulls the plug this year. I do feel if it's a question that he should be fired that this is the year to do it because they need to retool so it's good for a new coach to do that, but I don't think he is getting canned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Sweet me too. We haven’t been In mediocrity hell though. We are about to be we keep McDermott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, Process said: To hear there is "zero" chance he gets fired, regardless of how the season ends, has to just suck the life out of you as a fan. Wonder if it's starting to weigh on the players too... Go back to 2021 playoffs and imagine being Josh Allen or Stefon Diggs or even Gabe Davis at that point. You played to absolute perfection and it still wasn't good enough thanks to McD. Now the same mistakes happening all over again. It has to be eating away at those guys. Probably why Stef doesn't seem himself this year and why Gabe has regressed some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 49 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: I believe this a lot more than Florio shooting from the hip. I think this team would have to endure a colossal melt-down in the locker room and on the field the final 5 games in order for any coaching change to be considered Yeah, I don't buy it. Personally I think the locker room has already been lost. Brady helped the offense but this team is still in cap hell. I've said 1000x McDermott is not the type of HC capable of winning a SB. Let alone getting to one. If Terry wants continuity whatever? Good luck selling PSL's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 We will see what Pegula does when Beane goes to him and tells him its either Allen or Mcdermott. Pegula will pack Mcdermott's office for him. Allen is beyond f'ed up with this defense falling apart at the end of every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Lulz. Good luck selling seats at the new stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 By the same logic, Cinci, Seattle, Baltimore, and 49ers should also be firing their HCs this summer. We could kick the tires, but by the same McD measuring stick, they are bums too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Hopkins Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: As evident to…? Have the Bills won the super bowl? Have the Bills won the AFC? Are they heading in the right direction? You can certainly be content with Micky D if your goal is to compete for a divisional round appearance. That just also happens to mean wasting Josh Allen's career. If you want evidence go ask Jack Eichel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 54 minutes ago, alluro said: As it should be. 35 consecutive regular season games of losing by one score or less. We are always in these contests. The next closest coach has like 13. If you're happy being 3rd place then I am jealous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 This may be the prevailing view right now, but things can change a lot over five games. Missing the playoffs combined with more embarrassing losses could easily tip the scales the other way. But I would not be surprised if McDermott is back even if the team loses two or three out of the last five. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, EffKCChiefs said: What if Pegula then gets rid of Allen 😳 Yikes..I hadn't even thought of that. This is the Bills so anything is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, Julio Hopkins said: Have the Bills won the super bowl? Have the Bills won the AFC? Are they heading in the right direction? You can certainly be content with Micky D if your goal is to compete for a divisional round appearance. That just also happens to mean wasting Josh Allen's career. If you want evidence go ask Jack Eichel. So by that logic the only franchises in the NFL “committed to winning” would be KC. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Would it hurt for Pegula to meet with some of the top players on the team in private and get a pulse on the support for Mcd? If this is true do we hope to keep Brady as OC and Mcd bringing in an D Coordinator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 58 minutes ago, alluro said: As it should be. 35 consecutive regular season games of losing by one score or less. We are always in these contests. The next closest coach has like 13. Too bad he never can win any of those important one score games where his defense needs to get a stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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