mrags Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Moral victory season!!! Hang the banner for a hard-fought loss against a good team!! Congrats to all involved in the narrow defeat!! He must be experiencing PTSD from the drought era or he’s someone that just jumped in the bandwagon a few years ago like so many and doesn’t really know what’s it’s like when your head coach sucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Moral victory season!!! Hang the banner for a hard-fought loss against a good team!! Congrats to all involved in the narrow defeat!! This cat is delusional. He's spitting into the wind with this LAMP 'moral victory' thread and calling out people who have an issue with McDermott as 'entitled'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, appoo said: While having a huge chunk of their salary cap on IR or basically washed whole fighting the refs in a horrifically officiated game while at a decided talent disadvantage on both sides of the ball on the road and y’all want to fire the head coach who’s has had nothing but 10+ win seasons for like 4 years in a row now? It took the Eagles kicking a SIXTY YARD FG IN THE RAIN to get to OT. The Eagles had a better DVOA than the Bills. There was no reasonable analysis that had the Bills winning this football game before the snap. Literally demanding the HC be fired for EXCEEDING expectations Nah this ain’t it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I can't believe that after everything we've seen from this guy that there are still McDermott fans here. The drought really has given some of you lifelong PTSD. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, appoo said: so does McDermott get full credit for Josh Allen in your world? And all the other hits from the draft? Or just the ones that don’t immediately pan out well? Um…. He is the luckiest coach ever to get handed one of the most talented QBs to ever play the game. And yet he still finds ways to steal wins away from him. 1 minute ago, ExWNYer said: This cat is delusional. He's spitting into the wind with this LAMP 'moral victory' thread and calling out people who have an issue with McDermott as 'entitled'. I think I figured it out. We’re being trolled by a true McDermott hater. He’s just bringing it up so that we get all riled up and start a riot. Maybe by the end of the day we will be lined up outside the stadium with torches and pitchforks demanding McDildos head. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 When do we raise the "Moral Victory" banner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: All that’s left now is for a certain veteran poster to come on and tell us it doesn’t matter because McDs heart is in the right place. "McDermott and Beane are smart football guys, smarter than you and me. That's why we never question what they do." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, appoo said: Beane much moreso than McDermott. Even then Beane and McDermott don’t control injuries. And the primary issue has been injuries to the D, and then of course Dorsey struggling If you think injuries are why the Bills lost yesterday, then I completely disagree. We completely shut their offense down in the first half - injuries didn’t seem to be a problem then. And then the defense got steamrolled in the second half. The Eagles scored on 5 of their last 6 drives. 4 of those 5 were touchdowns. The key was that the Eagles coaching staff made adjustments in the second half. McD either didn’t, or his adjustments were not helpful. That’s not injuries - it’s coaching. . Edited November 27, 2023 by Einstein 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 Yea this ain’t about MvDermott the human being or moral victories. Want to know what makes a coach a great coach in the NFL? It’s not Xs and Os. That happens your coordinators. It’s not player development. That happens with your S&C program and position coaches. It’s their ability to hire good coaches and then manage a locker room of multi-millionaires with massive amount of diversity in personality and backgrounds, and getting them to actually give a crap about each other and getting on the same page and sacrificing for each other. I mean the reason the Bills have Diggs is because that Head Coach COULDNT do that in Minnesota And yea game management matters and McDwrmott actually struggle some with that, but he’s not that far off from most teams in the league - all fam bases seem to hate this about their coach. This is purely practical. The odds of the Bills UPGRADING McDemott are not great. The odds of them getting worse is much higher. Ive gotten used to winning with Buffalo. I’ve seen engines coaches in the NFL over 35 years to risk that crap when I know the coach here is enough to get the bills where they need to go with a good roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, appoo said: While having a huge chunk of their salary cap on IR or basically washed whole fighting the refs in a horrifically officiated game while at a decided talent disadvantage on both sides of the ball on the road and y’all want to fire the head coach who’s has had nothing but 10+ win seasons for like 4 years in a row now? It took the Eagles kicking a SIXTY YARD FG IN THE RAIN to get to OT. The Eagles had a better DVOA than the Bills. There was no reasonable analysis that had the Bills winning this football game before the snap. Literally demanding the HC be fired for EXCEEDING expectations Nah this ain’t it Bills took the Eagles to OT, where McD has the WORST record in the HISTORY of the NFL (coaches with at least 7 OT games ). He got them right where he wanted them... lol 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Actually they took us to OT. 😆 🤣 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, mrags said: Um…. He is the luckiest coach ever to get handed one of the most talented QBs to ever play the game. And yet he still finds ways to steal wins away from him. Look, I’m at the point where I’m ok with moving on from McDermott. You’re spewing off in other threads about how he has total control and is calling the shots… well if that’s the case he made the decision to draft Josh Allen. You can’t have it both ways. You’re in every thread this morning just running your mouth. You’re on pace to post in like 20 different threads in less than an hour with nothing of substance other juvenile comments like “McDildo” How old are you 35-40? I mean Jesus Christ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, appoo said: He took Tyrod Taylor to 9 wins and the playoffs man Dick Jauron went 13-3 one year too. Breaking the drought doesn't get him a lifetime hall pass. Without Josh Allen, McDermott would have been canned long ago. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: If you think injuries are why the Bills lost yesterday, then I completely disagree. We completely shut their offense down in the first half - injuries didn’t seem to be a problem then. And then the defense got steamrolled in the second half. The Eagles scored on 5 of their last 6 drives. 4 of those 5 were touchdowns. The key was that the Eagles coaching staff made adjustments in the second half. McD either didn’t, or his adjustments were not helpful. That’s not injuries - it’s coaching. . Its scheme and depth. The bills D will always fade in the 2nd half because they have almost no depth any more. They do well in the first half because McDermott has just enough fresh talent at the right spots to get stops. Lqte 3rd and 4th and OT the Bills pass rush turned completely non existent because of that lack of depth and other pieces. For example they don’t have a good blitzing backer without Milano. That matters. Eventually McDermott turns desperate with his blitzes which is why you suddenly crazy plays like playing cover 0 in the red zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, appoo said: He took Tyrod Taylor to 9 wins and the playoffs man It is possible to both acknowledge and appreciate what he did in it past and at the same time realize that what he is doing in not working anymore. It is time to move on from him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I agree with OP's analysis. Such a viewpoint will be deeply unpopular and will garner many critical replies. There's probably three of us on the board thinking the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, jlgarsh said: Dick Jauron went 13-3 one year too. Breaking the drought doesn't get him a lifetime hall pass. Without Josh Allen, McDermott would have been canned long ago. Yes because all NFL coaches will win without some kid of elite talent either at QB or at every where else on the roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 0-6 in overtime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Look, I’m at the point where I’m ok with moving on from McDermott. You’re spewing off in other threads about how he has total control and is calling the shots… well if that’s the case he made the decision to draft Josh Allen. You can’t have it both ways. You’re in every thread this morning just running your mouth. You’re on pace to post in like 20 different threads in less than an hour with nothing of substance other juvenile comments like “McDildo” How old are you 35-40? I mean Jesus Christ. McDermott thought Nate Peterman was not only a rosterable QB, but starting caliber. So I would say luck definitely has something to do with finding our way to Allen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, dgrochester55 said: It is possible to both acknowledge and appreciate what he did in it past and at the same time realize that what he is doing in not working anymore. It is time to move on from him. What would you expect differently out of a different coach with this specific roster and injury situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 This is a drought thread right? We like moral victories. This is like saying she showed me a boob 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, mrags said: He must be experiencing PTSD from the drought era or he’s someone that just jumped in the bandwagon a few years ago like so many and doesn’t really know what’s it’s like when your head coach sucks. I’ve been a fan since I moved to Buffalo as a 2 year old….in 1981. I’ve been through basically all of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Look, I’m at the point where I’m ok with moving on from McDermott. You’re spewing off in other threads about how he has total control and is calling the shots… well if that’s the case he made the decision to draft Josh Allen. You can’t have it both ways. You’re in every thread this morning just running your mouth. You’re on pace to post in like 20 different threads in less than an hour with nothing of substance other juvenile comments like “McDildo” How old are you 35-40? I mean Jesus Christ. Sean? Or his mom? Don’t get all bent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, mrags said: Sean? Or his mom? Don’t get all bent. I just said I’m ok moving on from him… you’re possibly the worst troll on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, Dablitzkrieg said: This is a drought thread right? We like moral victories. This is like saying she showed me a boob No this is me wanting the bills to win a SB. There’s a lot more bad coaches than there are good coaches. Th is I’ve learned from being a football sicko - both college and NFL - for decades now. Ousting a legit good coach when he hasn’t lost his locker room and hasn’t stopped being willing to make big changes (such as firing his OC mid season), is a massive risk that I don’t think will pay off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, JGMcD2 said: I just said I’m ok moving on from him… you’re possibly the worst troll on the board. Feel free to ignore me anytime you want Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 Want to make a change? Ask McDermott to hire a DC who’ll end up being the head coach of the defense. Mostly McD has been excellent as a play caller but hey have at that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, appoo said: No this is me wanting the bills to win a SB. There’s a lot more bad coaches than there are good coaches. Th is I’ve learned from being a football sicko - both college and NFL - for decades now. Ousting a legit good coach when he hasn’t lost his locker room and hasn’t stopped being willing to make big changes (such as firing his OC mid season), is a massive risk that I don’t think will pay off You don’t think he’s lost the locker room? He practically lost his star WR after his debacle in the playoffs last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Like do people want McDermott fired because they’re frustrated or because they think McDermott lost control of his roster, lost the ability to game plan with his coordinators or because kneeled with 20 seconds left? 2 minutes ago, mrags said: You don’t think he’s lost the locker room? He practically lost his star WR after his debacle in the playoffs last year. No. Not remotely close. I think he’s managing Diggs perfectly This is out there folks: https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1729148681402855828?s=46&t=b_6DEUCIOVykcHVZYqq8jg be careful with what you’re asking for. You might just get it. Enjoy your week Edited November 27, 2023 by appoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Now it’s up to fans and media to get Sean out as coach.I respect Sean as a decent upstanding man of faith, and leader of men, however, I can’t look at him anymore coaching this team. If there’s anything positive coming out of this down year, it’s getting rid of this guy. His philosophy is wrong for this roster and invariably he will lose the locker room. Players will not continue to have a coach lose games that are winnable. He coaches not to lose and his players are not disciplined and buttoned up. When a defensive minded coach can’t get his defense of 6 years, to make a stop in the 4th quarter of big games, he’s not worth having. He’s very entrenched in a system that doesn’t work and he’s too damn stubborn to change. If Beane and the Pegulas don’t see this, they’re taking this fanbase for granted and we’re looking at pain and abject frustration going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, appoo said: Its scheme and depth. The bills D will always fade in the 2nd half because they have almost no depth any more. They do well in the first half because McDermott has just enough fresh talent at the right spots to get stops. Lqte 3rd and 4th and OT the Bills pass rush turned completely non existent because of that lack of depth and other pieces. For example they don’t have a good blitzing backer without Milano. That matters. Eventually McDermott turns desperate with his blitzes which is why you suddenly crazy plays like playing cover 0 in the red zone They faded exactly the same way against Houston and the Chiefs in the playoffs in 19 and 21. And in this game, the Eagles only had the ball for 23 minutes. Not long enough for guys to be gassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 As Josh Donaldson once said in baseball: 👉This is not the “try hard” league You either win or you don’t. No trophies for playing a good team tough especially when you are supposed to be a SB contender yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 52 minutes ago, appoo said: While having a huge chunk of their salary cap on IR or basically washed whole fighting the refs in a horrifically officiated game while at a decided talent disadvantage on both sides of the ball on the road and y’all want to fire the head coach who’s has had nothing but 10+ win seasons for like 4 years in a row now? It took the Eagles kicking a SIXTY YARD FG IN THE RAIN to get to OT. The Eagles had a better DVOA than the Bills. There was no reasonable analysis that had the Bills winning this football game before the snap. Literally demanding the HC be fired for EXCEEDING expectations Nah this ain’t it I really can't reply to this how I want due to Ill get banned. I... I just cant. 18 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: This is a drought thread right? We like moral victories. This is like saying she showed me a boob "Vicki showed me her boobies.... AND I LIKED THEM TOO!!!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, appoo said: Like do people want McDermott fired because they’re frustrated or because they think McDermott lost control of his roster, lost the ability to game plan with his coordinators or because kneeled with 20 seconds left? No. Not remotely close. I think he’s managing Diggs perfectly This is out there folks: https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1729148681402855828?s=46&t=b_6DEUCIOVykcHVZYqq8jg be careful with what you’re asking for. You might just get it. Enjoy your week I don’t give a chit about Frank Reich being fired 1 year into his stint. On his 3rd team he’s coached. I don’t care who’s out there for us to get in place of McDoopa. The point is he has proven it time and time again that he is not the coach to make the right decisions at the times when he needs to. I will give him the credit that he pulled this team out of the gutter. He helped make us relevant again. I have no doubt he is a good person. But he is not a coach that I trust to win us a game when the game is on the line. He consistently loses big games. How many more years do you want to waste Allen? By the time he’s 30 and we now all realize that McDippy doesn’t have it? Then Allen will be well past his prime. you want to go ahead and keep this lame HC because your scared we get someone worse? That’s fine. I want him gone because I think any coach could come in and win 9-11 games with what we have. And if we even get a halfway decent offensive minded coach the sky’s the limit. 24 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: McDermott thought Nate Peterman was not only a rosterable QB, but starting caliber. So I would say luck definitely has something to do with finding our way to Allen. He was on a roll. Don’t put his fire out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 25 minutes ago, appoo said: Lqte 3rd and 4th and OT the Bills pass rush turned completely non existent because of that lack of depth and other pieces. We rotate 7 different players on a 4 man line with four 1st round picks: How much more depth do you need? I’m sorry but these are just excuses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 47 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: McDermott is awesome at stacking moral victories. Actual victories this season? Not so much. This is it. I knew the season was over once one of you clowns uttered the term 'moral victory' that's the rallying cry of the long time loser and I had hoped we were done with that for a while, but here we are. Looking forward to a moral victory against the pats or whomever we can squeak by the rest of the season. Like I said a couple weeks ago, we'll get one more win, maybe even against a good team, but this season and team is toast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 49 minutes ago, appoo said: Beane much moreso than McDermott. Even then Beane and McDermott don’t control injuries. And the primary issue has been injuries to the D, and then of course Dorsey struggling I wasn’t happy with the loss. I am fairly angry at the entitlement and treatment of McDermott. Mostly at the entitlement honestly You….nevermind you don’t get it nor see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 54 minutes ago, appoo said: I didn’t like his kneeling either. What are the odds the Bills score if they go for it? I dunno but I heard an analytics quote that said the Bills lost 6% chance to win when the knelt the ball. It doesn't matter what the odds are. You have to try and win the football game. Instead of trusting Allen to make a play he decided to trust a coin flip and a defense that was terrible for most of the second half of the football game. What if we lost that coin flip? Allen probably never would have even seen the ball again, just like the 13 second game. You have an elite QB with the strongest arm in football. You let that man try to win a football game. He did it in Detroit not all that long ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.