McBean Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) “lOoK AT ouR pREVioUs cOaChes mAN. NOt woRTH THe RiSk.” Let’s address this coward mentality. Conservative mentality. No dog mentality. The soft mentality the Buffalo media has accepted along with some fans here. Bills previous head coaches in the 2000’s and their QB’s up until McClappy was hired. Wade- Flutie and Johnson Williams- Johnson and Bledsoe Mularkey- Bledsoe Jauron- Losman and Checkdown Edwards Gailey- Fitz Marrone- Manuel and Orton Rex- Tee Rod McClap- Tee Rod and Allen You notice something? Yeah, all of the prior coaches had horrible QB’s and lost here. Shocker! Myth: “He (McClap) changed the culture Fact: We had a negative point differential and a soft schedule in 2017 when the drought was broken. He punted in OT against Indy and was playing for the tie. A fumble led to a win. Also, a guy named Andy Dalton threw a pass that was nothing short of a miracle to get us in. The following season we stunk and got lucky to land Allen. Ever since, the clown coach has hid behind his star QB. Look at the terrible losses over the years. At JAX, at NE, ran over by Jonathan Taylor, Houston playoff meltdown, curb stomped by Cincy last playoffs… Myth: “Let’s fire Dorsey. It’s his fault.” Fact: Last year it was fire Frazier. It’s his fault. Leslie got the blame. Now, some of you are falling right into the same trap this Czar is going to spew at years end. Reality is if we hire a bright offensive mind who flourishes here, that guy is now gone in 2 years or less and we are stuck doing the same thing over. O, and even a great OC can’t cover up your clown HC horrible in game decision making. Your OC can’t cover up the obsession with defensive picks and big money to that side of the ball. Your OC can’t cover up the conservative scared coaching approaches like punting before half or kicking field goals down 2 scores. YOUR OC CANT COVER UP 13 SECONDS. In conclusion, I’m sick and freakin tired of the scared Buffalo media who won’t call this guy out. Guys like Adam Schein and Ross Tucker don’t hesitate to address the incompetence of McClap. Last comments… Jerry Kraus told Doug Collins to hit the bricks and promoted a guy named Phil Jackson to get the Bulls over the hump led by a guy named Michael Jordan. Did it work? 6 rings boss. Warriors told Mark Jackson to hit the bricks and hired a guy named Steve Kerr. Did it work? 4 rings. Brass Balls Howie Roseman told his SUPER BOWL WINNING COACH DOUG PEDERSON YOU’RE FIRED PAL TWO YEARS POST LOMBARDI! Did it work? Eagles #1 team in the league. Super Bowl appearance last year. Humming on offense. Sirriani aggressive coach who could coach circles around McClap. Incredible offensive line. Weapons galore. Has made Jalen Hurts into an MVP. You guys want to sit back and take this crap? Be my guest. I’ve pounded the table for 3 years to get this bozo out of WNY. Now, some are finally thinking I’m not crazy. You’re seeing it in front of your eyes folks. We are wasting a Hall of Fame QB. We are wasting time. We are wasting our best chance ever to win a Super Bowl title. To get this dark cloud over with. To bring a trophy home to WNY. For Bills Mafia across the world. How can we better our chances? Simple… Terry, please God do the right thing and FIRE SEAN MCDERMOTT. Edited November 7, 2023 by McBean 14 1 4 2 1 1 2 24 3 14 7 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 You make some valid points, but stop banging your head against a brick wall. Terry is not firing McD this year, next year or any other year in the near future. 2 1 14 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, LabattBlue said: You make some valid points, but stop banging your head against a brick wall. Terry is not firing McD this year, next year or any other year in the near future. But why not? Why why why? How in the world can our owner not see this? How can he not get through his skull we are MAXED out with Sean? 2 4 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 The title does not accurately depict the topic of this thread, you should probably change it to make it reflect that. 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, McBean said: “lOoK AT ouR pREVioUs cOaChes mAN. NOt woRTH THe RiSk.” Let’s address this coward mentality. Conservative mentality. No dog mentality. The soft mentality the Buffalo media has accepted along with some fans here. Bills previous head coaches in the 2000’s and their QB’s up until McClappy was hired. Wade- Flutie and Johnson Williams- Johnson and Bledsoe Mularkey- Bledsoe Jauron- Losman and Checkdown Edwards Gailey- Fitz Marrone- Manuel and Orton Rex- Tee Rod McClap- Tee Rod and Allen You notice something? Yeah, all of the prior coaches had horrible QB’s and lost here. Shocker! Myth: “He (McClap) changed the culture Fact: We had a negative point differential and a soft schedule in 2017 when the drought was broken. He punted in OT against Indy and was playing for the tie. A fumble led to a win. Also, a guy named Andy Dalton threw a pass that was nothing short of a miracle to get us in. The following season we stunk and got lucky to land Allen. Ever since, the clown coach has hid behind his star QB. Look at the terrible losses over the years. At JAX, at NE, ran over by Jonathan Taylor, Houston playoff meltdown, curb stomped by Cincy last playoffs… Myth: “Let’s fire Dorsey. It’s his fault.” Fact: Last year it was fire Frazier. It’s his fault. Leslie got the blame. Now, some of you are falling right into the same trap this Czar is going to spew at years end. Reality is if we hire a bright offensive mind who flourishes here, that guy is now gone in 2 years or less and we are stuck doing the same thing over. O, and even a great OC can’t cover up your clown HC horrible in game decision making. Your OC can’t cover up the obsession with defensive picks and big money to that side of the ball. Your OC can’t cover up the conservative scared coaching approaches like punting before half or kicking field goals down 2 scores. YOUR OC CANT COVER UP 13 SECONDS. In conclusion, I’m sick and freakin tired of the scared Buffalo media who won’t call this guy out. Guys like Adam Schein and Ross Tucker don’t hesitate to address the incompetence of McClap. Last comments… Jerry Kraus told Doug Collins to hit the bricks and promoted a guy named Phil Jackson to get the Bulls over the hump led by a guy named Michael Jordan. Did it work? 6 rings boss. Warriors told Mark Jackson to hit the bricks and hired a guy named Steve Kerr. Did it work? 4 rings. Brass Balls Howie Roseman told his SUPER BOWL WINNING COACH DOUG PEDERSON YOU’RE FIRED PAL TWO YEARS POST LOMBARDI! Did it work? Eagles #1 team in the league. Super Bowl appearance last year. Humming on offense. Sirriani aggressive coach who could coach circles around McClap. Incredible offensive line. Weapons galore. Has made Jalen Hurts into an MVP. You guys want to sit back and take this crap? Be my guest. I’ve pounded the table for 3 years to get this bozo out of WNY. Now, some are finally thinking I’m not crazy. You’re seeing it in front of your eyes folks. We are wasting a Hall of Fame QB. We are wasting time. We are wasting our best chance ever to win a Super Bowl title. To get this dark cloud over with. To bring a trophy home to WNY. For Bills Mafia across the world. How can we better our chances? Simple… Terry, please God do the right thing and FIRE SEAN MCDERMOTT. You described everything to perfection..100% spot on! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, McBean said: “lOoK AT ouR pREVioUs cOaChes mAN. NOt woRTH THe RiSk.” Let’s address this coward mentality. Conservative mentality. No dog mentality. The soft mentality the Buffalo media has accepted along with some fans here. Bills previous head coaches in the 2000’s and their QB’s up until McClappy was hired. Wade- Flutie and Johnson Williams- Johnson and Bledsoe Mularkey- Bledsoe Jauron- Losman and Checkdown Edwards Gailey- Fitz Marrone- Manuel and Orton Rex- Tee Rod McClap- Tee Rod and Allen You notice something? Yeah, all of the prior coaches had horrible QB’s and lost here. Shocker! Myth: “He (McClap) changed the culture Fact: We had a negative point differential and a soft schedule in 2017 when the drought was broken. He punted in OT against Indy and was playing for the tie. A fumble led to a win. Also, a guy named Andy Dalton threw a pass that was nothing short of a miracle to get us in. The following season we stunk and got lucky to land Allen. Ever since, the clown coach has hid behind his star QB. Look at the terrible losses over the years. At JAX, at NE, ran over by Jonathan Taylor, Houston playoff meltdown, curb stomped by Cincy last playoffs… Myth: “Let’s fire Dorsey. It’s his fault.” Fact: Last year it was fire Frazier. It’s his fault. Leslie got the blame. Now, some of you are falling right into the same trap this Czar is going to spew at years end. Reality is if we hire a bright offensive mind who flourishes here, that guy is now gone in 2 years or less and we are stuck doing the same thing over. O, and even a great OC can’t cover up your clown HC horrible in game decision making. Your OC can’t cover up the obsession with defensive picks and big money to that side of the ball. Your OC can’t cover up the conservative scared coaching approaches like punting before half or kicking field goals down 2 scores. YOUR OC CANT COVER UP 13 SECONDS. In conclusion, I’m sick and freakin tired of the scared Buffalo media who won’t call this guy out. Guys like Adam Schein and Ross Tucker don’t hesitate to address the incompetence of McClap. Last comments… Jerry Kraus told Doug Collins to hit the bricks and promoted a guy named Phil Jackson to get the Bulls over the hump led by a guy named Michael Jordan. Did it work? 6 rings boss. Warriors told Mark Jackson to hit the bricks and hired a guy named Steve Kerr. Did it work? 4 rings. Brass Balls Howie Roseman told his SUPER BOWL WINNING COACH DOUG PEDERSON YOU’RE FIRED PAL TWO YEARS POST LOMBARDI! Did it work? Eagles #1 team in the league. Super Bowl appearance last year. Humming on offense. Sirriani aggressive coach who could coach circles around McClap. Incredible offensive line. Weapons galore. Has made Jalen Hurts into an MVP. You guys want to sit back and take this crap? Be my guest. I’ve pounded the table for 3 years to get this bozo out of WNY. Now, some are finally thinking I’m not crazy. You’re seeing it in front of your eyes folks. We are wasting a Hall of Fame QB. We are wasting time. We are wasting our best chance ever to win a Super Bowl title. To get this dark cloud over with. To bring a trophy home to WNY. For Bills Mafia across the world. How can we better our chances? Simple… Terry, please God do the right thing and FIRE SEAN MCDERMOTT. I'm getting the impression that you have some strong feelings about this. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Dan Darragh said: I'm getting the impression that you have some strong feelings about this. I can't tell how he feels. Can someone loop me in? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, McBean said: “lOoK AT ouR pREVioUs cOaChes mAN. NOt woRTH THe RiSk.” Let’s address this coward mentality. Conservative mentality. No dog mentality. The soft mentality the Buffalo media has accepted along with some fans here. Bills previous head coaches in the 2000’s and their QB’s up until McClappy was hired. Wade- Flutie and Johnson Williams- Johnson and Bledsoe Mularkey- Bledsoe Jauron- Losman and Checkdown Edwards Gailey- Fitz Marrone- Manuel and Orton Rex- Tee Rod McClap- Tee Rod and Allen You notice something? Yeah, all of the prior coaches had horrible QB’s and lost here. Shocker! Myth: “He (McClap) changed the culture Fact: We had a negative point differential and a soft schedule in 2017 when the drought was broken. He punted in OT against Indy and was playing for the tie. A fumble led to a win. Also, a guy named Andy Dalton threw a pass that was nothing short of a miracle to get us in. The following season we stunk and got lucky to land Allen. Ever since, the clown coach has hid behind his star QB. Look at the terrible losses over the years. At JAX, at NE, ran over by Jonathan Taylor, Houston playoff meltdown, curb stomped by Cincy last playoffs… Myth: “Let’s fire Dorsey. It’s his fault.” Fact: Last year it was fire Frazier. It’s his fault. Leslie got the blame. Now, some of you are falling right into the same trap this Czar is going to spew at years end. Reality is if we hire a bright offensive mind who flourishes here, that guy is now gone in 2 years or less and we are stuck doing the same thing over. O, and even a great OC can’t cover up your clown HC horrible in game decision making. Your OC can’t cover up the obsession with defensive picks and big money to that side of the ball. Your OC can’t cover up the conservative scared coaching approaches like punting before half or kicking field goals down 2 scores. YOUR OC CANT COVER UP 13 SECONDS. In conclusion, I’m sick and freakin tired of the scared Buffalo media who won’t call this guy out. Guys like Adam Schein and Ross Tucker don’t hesitate to address the incompetence of McClap. Last comments… Jerry Kraus told Doug Collins to hit the bricks and promoted a guy named Phil Jackson to get the Bulls over the hump led by a guy named Michael Jordan. Did it work? 6 rings boss. Warriors told Mark Jackson to hit the bricks and hired a guy named Steve Kerr. Did it work? 4 rings. Brass Balls Howie Roseman told his SUPER BOWL WINNING COACH DOUG PEDERSON YOU’RE FIRED PAL TWO YEARS POST LOMBARDI! Did it work? Eagles #1 team in the league. Super Bowl appearance last year. Humming on offense. Sirriani aggressive coach who could coach circles around McClap. Incredible offensive line. Weapons galore. Has made Jalen Hurts into an MVP. You guys want to sit back and take this crap? Be my guest. I’ve pounded the table for 3 years to get this bozo out of WNY. Now, some are finally thinking I’m not crazy. You’re seeing it in front of your eyes folks. We are wasting a Hall of Fame QB. We are wasting time. We are wasting our best chance ever to win a Super Bowl title. To get this dark cloud over with. To bring a trophy home to WNY. For Bills Mafia across the world. How can we better our chances? Simple… Terry, please God do the right thing and FIRE SEAN MCDERMOTT. Yeah, it's past time and he has to go. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: The title does not accurately depict the topic of this thread, you should probably change it to make it reflect that. Ok, how can I do that? thabks 1 minute ago, Dan Darragh said: I'm getting the impression that you have some strong feelings about this. More than strong. The guy has ruined my joy of Bills football. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 McClap needs to move past lack of rhythm, poor "complimentary" football and lack of execution as excuses for why this team is struggling. Get to the ROOT of the problem by looking in the mirror. He is a defensive minded coach but needs a coordinator on defense and a STRONG one on offense. Until that happens this team will continue to struggle. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Nuncha said: McClap needs to move past lack of rhythm, poor "complimentary" football and lack of execution as excuses for why this team is struggling. Get to the ROOT of the problem by looking in the mirror. He is a defensive minded coach but needs a coordinator on defense and a STRONG one on offense. Until that happens this team will continue to struggle. I agree but we will lose the strong OC and the root (McDermott) is still here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 The fact is, while this particular offense is stuck in the mud, for a myriad of reasons. Mcdermott has presided over one of the most prolific NFL offenses for a few years prior. The Bills point differential compared to the rest of the league was out of sight prior to this year. So at the end of the day, i do not think Pegula and Beane will fire him. they will find a new offensive coordinator 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: You make some valid points, but stop banging your head against a brick wall. Terry is not firing McD this year, next year or any other year in the near future. Agree. There is zero chance he fires McD. McD isn’t the problem, either. 6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I dont think McDermott deserves to be fired after 1 bad season. I don’t think it’s a smart way to run your franchise. 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 We all know how this plays out. McDermott gets next year, no matter what. The only question is whether Dorsey gets let go. I would hope McDermott's recent answers to questions about the Offense, when paired with the fact his bread and butter (Defense) has become the worst statistical defense in the league after getting hit with the injury bug, would finally open eyes at OBD.. but he has his built in excuse, along with a fall guy. He's going to be here next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: You make some valid points, but stop banging your head against a brick wall. Terry is not firing McD this year, next year or any other year in the near future. won't be so sure about that. Will be awful hard to sell tickets to a new stadium with early playoff exits when you have Allen. Unless we are a fanbase of morons who accept mediocrity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I agree but the question is...who is our Phil Jackson? I don't see this guy on the current staff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I dont think McDermott deserves to be fired after 1 bad season. I don’t think it’s a smart way to run your franchise. 13 seconds: bad season. Last season: bad ending. This season: even worse. See a trend: regression! 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 You would have to be a pretty awful coaching staff to miss the playoffs with Allen as your QB. Wait… 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, McBean said: I agree but we will lose the strong OC and the root (McDermott) is still here. This. The whole franchised is screwed because we have a Defensive HC who has to hire strong OCs in order to succeed. And any half-decent OC will immediately get plucked for a HC job, and we're right back to where we started. In today's NFL, you find your OC, make them HC, and then fill in your DC with whoever. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Time to fire this clown he can't take this team to the promised land. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: I agree but the question is...who is our Phil Jackson? I don't see this guy on the current staff We let him go to NJ last year. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) I think things would need to get really ugly in the lockerroom (and on the field) in order for Pegula to consider moving on from McDermott. The best thing to hope for, if hoping for change, is a good-faith effort to hire good coordinators on both sides of the ball (and obviously includes replacing Dorsey). As far as a house cleaning like many want/suggest, and I am open to it. Sure.... But I have less than zero faith in Terry Pegula in hiring a new head coach or GM or anything. Edited November 7, 2023 by May Day 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: We let him go to NJ last year. Bingo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Josh Allen is the reason McDermott isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, May Day 10 said: I think things would need to get really ugly in the lockerroom (and on the field) in order for Pegula to consider moving on from McDermott. The best thing to hope for, if hoping for change, is a good-faith effort to hire good coordinators on both sides of the ball (and obviously replacing Dorsey). As far as a house cleaning like many want/suggest, and I am open to it. Sure.... But I have less than zero faith in Terry Pegula in hiring a new head coach or GM or anything. Ugly in Locker room? look at Diggs and what happened this off season. Direct correlation to my post. Diggs knows. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Previous coaches never had Josh Allen. That’s a huge difference. McDermot might not be here if we didn’t have Allen 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: 13 seconds: bad season. Last season: bad ending. This season: even worse. See a trend: regression! Yep. And he’ll get a chance to fix it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, BillsPride12 said: I agree but the question is...who is our Phil Jackson? I don't see this guy on the current staff OC Johnson from Det. OC Johnson from PHL. OC Kellen Moore Chargers. OC Bienemy Commanders. Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Yep. And he’ll get a chance to fix it. why? The trend is downward. Why give him another shot. He is wasting JA. He's proven he can't get it done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, BananaB said: Previous coaches never had Josh Allen. That’s a huge difference. McDermot might not be here if we didn’t have Allen Thank. You. 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: OC Johnson from Det. OC Johnson from PHL. OC Kellen Moore Chargers. OC Bienemy Commanders. why? The trend is downward. Why give him another shot. He is wasting JA. He's proven he can't get it done. Keep preaching. Love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: OC Johnson from Det. OC Johnson from PHL. In fairness, these are the only 2 I'd give a chance from that list. But I dont know squat. I admittedly wasnt aware of McDermott before the consultants found him, so who knows who else might be kicking around. That's why they get paid the big bucks. Folks always come back with that argument when talking about firing coaches. "oh yeah? who are you hiring that's so great?!?" Not our job to answer that question. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: OC Johnson from Det. OC Johnson from PHL. OC Kellen Moore Chargers. OC Bienemy Commanders. why? The trend is downward. Why give him another shot. He is wasting JA. He's proven he can't get it done. Why not? He built a top team before. Why wouldn’t you want him to build another one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisplacedBillsFan Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 McDermott also made the playoffs with Tyrod. Look around the league. Lots of failure and not many HCs who win consistently. We have a top 5 coach. You want to throw that away to take a chance on someone else who may or may not succeed? Unreal. 8 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Why not? He built a top team before. Why wouldn’t you want him to build another one? When did he build a "top team." A team that made 1 AFC Championship game and then regressed tremendously. You don't keep that coach around. 1 minute ago, DisplacedBillsFan said: McDermott also made the playoffs with Tyrod. Look around the league. Lots of failure and not many HCs who win consistently. We have a top 5 coach. You want to throw that away to take a chance on someone else who may or may not succeed? Unreal. McD LUCKED into the playoffs with Tyrod. And then did what: lost. Losing playoff games is not getting it done. We do not have a top 5 coach. 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: In fairness, these are the only 2 I'd give a chance from that list. But I dont know squat. I admittedly wasnt aware of McDermott before the consultants found him, so who knows who else might be kicking around. That's why they get paid the big bucks. Folks always come back with that argument when talking about firing coaches. "oh yeah? who are you hiring that's so great?!?" Not our job to answer that question. who would be your picks from that list. Mine would be the Johnsons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: We let him go to NJ last year. His team is playing so poorly that he might be available soon. Do you want him as HC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) Question for everyone here, name me all the Franchise QBs who’s coaches were fired and what the future was for those QBs? Blowing up the Bills organization likely starts the end of Josh Allen in Buffalo. Edited November 7, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 The real time to let him go was after 13 seconds, I was not for that, hindsight is 20/20. Having said that I have the same feelings, just to summarize, I believe the Bills are less likely to get worse with this team with new coaching than I do they keep up what we are seeing or possibly be better. I like the odds with Josh Allen. I would go out on a limb and say that if some of our previous head coaches had this roster, they would be doing just as well and possibly betterthan McDermott. I'm seeing very little out of a team with so much talent, and that goes straight to the coach. If sick of the heavily used cap $ and draft capital to bolster the defense over and over. After 13 seconds was the right time, but it is clear to me in my opinion at this point if we miss the playoffs McDermott should go. I don't think we can do much worse with this roster and a new offensive minded coach. I do however, understand the other half of our fan base being "scared". A 18 year playoff drought will do that to a loyal fan base. I for one, just want to see 1 Suberbowl victory before I die and Josh Allen is not getting any younger either. I'm willing to take the gamble 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: His team is playing so poorly that he might be available soon. Do you want him as HC? I've been back and forth on this, I've seen the Giants' struggles so I know what you mean, and I think I'm ultimately going to land on "yes, I'd rather have Dabol than McD". I think it's mostly a talent issue in NJ right now. And we have far better talent across the board. Plus we have a Josh Allen. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 29 minutes ago, McBean said: More than strong. The guy has ruined my joy of Bills football. Its been so hard watching this perennial playoff team. Better go see whats left in the medicine cabinet and draw a warm bath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: His team is playing so poorly that he might be available soon. Do you want him as HC? Lol give me a BREAK! Comparing Daniel freakin Jones and their backup scrubs to Allen!?? lmfaoooo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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