TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: I haven't lived in Buffalo since the 1980s But thanks for the advice, Andy, I'll put it in the proper place. Anytime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: The title should read " I'm eager to fire McDermott"....listen Sean was the perfect HC to rebuild a culture here in Buffalo. But his well documented flaws can no longer be ignored. The best player to ever come to this organization is thirsting for an offensive mentor (HC). Sean and his designated OC have no clue what to do with Josh. It's week 10 and he's talking about experimenting with different styles. His in- game management is terrible. His clock management is terrible. He butt heads with Daboll because he wanted a more " balanced" (which is code for conservative) offense. Well if you really wanted a balanced offense, why did you & Beane waste so many picks on defensive players, instead of OL/ WR2 etc. I think McDermott peaked or maybe a better word is plateaud after 13 seconds. He has taken this group as far as he can. He'll never out- coach the more polished guys. This organization has some big contracts to manage down the road. I think it's more than time to thank Sean for his service and move forward with someone like Ben Johnson. His plateau was :13. Special teams coach got the ax that year and last year it was the defensive coach. Now maybe it will be Offensive Coach. It's McDermott. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Jaron clapped some as well, its the only way we were sure he was alive sometimes I remember someone on the old BBMB photoshopped Jauron into a meme of a Weekend at Bernie's. Good times lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: Whats point of hiring a strong oc who will be picked up by another team in 2 years? Have to fire coach. Need the next offensive guy to be our HC. Okay Boomer. Just tell us you dont understand internet memes no need for personal insults. Ok... so hire a offensive minded HC who will need a strong DC. Bring in a strong DC who will be picked up by another team in 2 years. All you did was move the problem to the other side of the fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Ok. But have we really looked close enough at our roster? Bulletin! They're not that great. Three elite players? One out for the season. A defense that too often folds at critical times. An offense that begins and ends with Allen to Diggs. Even I could draw up a defensive game plan against that. I've never really thought our GM was great more slightly above average. Same with our HC. Our cap issues seem to say money not well spent. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Radar said: Ok. But have we really looked close enough at our roster? Bulletin! They're not that great. Three elite players? One out for the season. A defense that too often folds at critical times. An offense that begins and ends with Allen to Diggs. Even I could draw up a defensive game plan against that. I've never really thought our GM was great more slightly above average. Same with our HC. Our cap issues seem to say money not well spent. This, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 We can be a mediocre team that cant quite get over the hump despite the first franchise qb in 20+ years or sack up and go for the brass ring McDermott is not going to get us a Super Bowl There will always be excuses/injuries Heck he cant figure out what is wrong right now 8 minutes ago, Radar said: Ok. But have we really looked close enough at our roster? Bulletin! They're not that great. Three elite players? One out for the season. A defense that too often folds at critical times. An offense that begins and ends with Allen to Diggs. Even I could draw up a defensive game plan against that. I've never really thought our GM was great more slightly above average. Same with our HC. Our cap issues seem to say money not well spent. That's fair but how much is Beane complying with how/what McDermott wants? Regardless the roster is weak lacking true difference makers and getting old 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) NOT wanting to fire the HC and burn the whole program to the ground right now is a "coward mentality?" Have fun when a Rex Ryan or Chip Kelly type is the next HC here when your "big balls bravado" gets to pick the next HC. Edited November 7, 2023 by RkFast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, Nuncha said: Ok... so hire a offensive minded HC who will need a strong DC. Bring in a strong DC who will be picked up by another team in 2 years. All you did was move the problem to the other side of the fence. YES EXACTLY!!!! THE LESS IMPORTANT SIDE OF THE FENCE! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I'm not scared to fire McDermott. But I don't trust Terry to make the right hire. McDermott is literally the only coaching hire he has nailed in multiple goes with two teams. If they are, as they might be, at the end of the McDermott era I don't at all put it past Terry to screw this one up too. That isn't an argument to keep McDermott either. If we miss the playoffs I'd fire him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RkFast said: NOT wanting to fire the HC and burn the whole program to the ground right now is a "coward mentality?" Have fun when a Rex Ryan or Chip Kelly type is the next HC here when your "big balls bravado" gets to pick the next HC. Rex Ryan with Josh Allen? Okay how do we know that would actually be any worse than whatever the hell this product is mcdermott is giving us right now? Hell Rex Ryan took the dirty sanchez to the championship game didn't he? I mean honestly, giving McD credit for anything this offense did 2020/2021 I dunno guys it feels dumb. Only credit I give these guys is picking Josh Allen -- and that got them 6 years of gainful employment. Time to move on. We owe these guys nothing at this point they have failed to deliver. Edited November 7, 2023 by BillsFan692 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, RkFast said: NOT wanting to fire the HC and burn the whole program to the ground right now is a "coward mentality?" Have fun when a Rex Ryan or Chip Kelly type is the next HC here when your "big balls bravado" gets to pick the next HC. I honestly believe that people really believe it can only be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: I'm not scared to fire McDermott. But I don't trust Terry to make the right hire. McDermott is literally the only coaching hire he has nailed in multiple goes with two teams. If they are, as they might be, at the end of the McDermott era I don't at all put it past Terry to screw this one up too. That isn't an argument to keep McDermott either. If we miss the playoffs I'd fire him. I know that you don't like hockey, but they have a good guy with the Sabres now too. But that was after hiring the worst HC that I have ever seen in any sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMontreal Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, RkFast said: NOT wanting to fire the HC and burn the whole program to the ground right now is a "coward mentality?" FOH. Have fun when a Rex Ryan or Chip Kelly type is the next HC here when your "big balls bravado" gets to pick the next HC. It's all about expectations. We'll not climb the mountain higher than that with this whole program. Some fans feel good with it and i have no problem about that. Some others talk about taking the next step, trying to be the best. Maybee we could fell off the mountain if we try. Maybee not. Who knows? It could be a Rex Ryan ou Chip Kelly type...and it could be the HC we need to take the next step. One thing is sure: if we not try, we'll stay right where we are. Like i said, it's all about expectations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: I honestly believe that people really believe it can only be better. You've got that wrong -- people know that it can be worse of course we have all lived through a 20 year drought. People just want JA17 to win a Superbowl while we have this exceptional talent on our roster and believe it is an impossible task with Sean McDermott as the coach. So it really comes down to the -need- to win a superbowl while josh allen is in his prime and whether or not you believe it's even remotely possible for this head coach to get that done. Most see it as not possible at this point. A minority still clinging to hope. It's not about being afraid to fire mcdermott for the majority of us. It's about being terrified of leaving him in place and wasting Josh Allens career. Edited November 7, 2023 by BillsFan692 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Mango said: I think most here, myself included, talk about the fear of firing McBeane not because we are afraid to jump into the abyss and we cannot possibly upgrade from the greatness of McD. It is because Terry Pegula has proven himself to be one of the worst owners in all of professional sports. And THE WORST owner in NHL history. Peter Pocklington says hi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: I honestly believe that people really believe it can only be better. I can remember a time when Adam Gase was the hot offensive mind that all teams wanted to hire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFan692 said: It's not about being afraid to fire mcdermott for the majority of us. It's about being terrified of leaving him in place and wasting Josh Allens career. Allen's career could just as easily be wasted by another guy. There are no sure things. Generally, I'm pro ousting McDermott. I'm DEFINITELY wanting a change at GM. But the ONLY way I want it to happen is that the GM is hired first and THAT guy picks the HC. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Allen's career could just as easily be wasted by another guy. There are no sure things. Generally, I'm pro ousting McDermott. I'm DEFINITELY wanting a change at GM. But the ONLY way I want it to happen is that the GM is hired first and THAT guy picks the HC. Oh I agree with that 100%! The coach should never hire the GM that is just one of the many messed up things that have gone on with this regime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: I honestly believe that people really believe it can only be better. For me personally It's not so much that it can only be better. It's that w Allen already in place the step(s) backward we may suffer are significantly less likely to be as painful as the progress forward would be gratifying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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