BuffaloBillyG Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Today was a complete failure on so many fronts and I'm sure there will be many threads dedicated to those. However, is it fair to wonder if that shoulder injury is something more than what they let on? He had SEVERAL throws that were off. Just didn't seem to have the accurate ball placement he had early on. Even completions were off target a few times. Then on the last play of the game our huge armed QB just.....doesn't....uncork one? That seems really off to me. I'm positive he'll say the shoulder is all good and didn't play into it at all....but the eye test really says otherwise. 4 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 All of his misses were the same, high and thrown too fast. Yes I believe the shoulder affected him a lot today. 4 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 No excuses...this is a bad team right now 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Oh ***** off with this. Shoulder looked fine when we went hurry with 6 min left. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 It’s exciting how we get to rehash alllll the same issues of our offense post-Green Bay last year, including the “Is Allen injured” question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I think it affected him but I don’t think it’s why we lost. We scored 25 points against one of the greatest defensive minds to ever love. And we allowed 24 points to potentially the worst offense in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 He missed a couple throws I haven't seen him miss since 2018 or 19. I'm just hoping it's a short term thing. Sick to my stomach remembering what Cam Newton's shoulder looked like at the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Well his shoulder sure is making Dorsey look bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 This forum will find millions of excuses....he was fine, he just stunk. He's been stinking. It's worrisome - it's not injuries. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I don’t think Allen’s shoulder has is a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: Oh ***** off with this. Shoulder looked fine when we went hurry with 6 min left. It's amazing how dim people get when they are angry Nobody is blaming the loss on the shoulder. Allen had 3 bad misses we haven't seen in years, because he flopped like an idiot trying to get a call against the Giants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) I’m not sure how hurt his shoulder can be considering he delivered a dime to Diggs 50 yards on a rope at the end of the game. I think Belichick confused Allen and we had no answers until the end of the game when we played loose with hurry up. Edited October 22, 2023 by DapperCam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Excuses. He played poorly for a majority of the game. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: All of his misses were the same, high and thrown too fast. Yes I believe the shoulder affected him a lot today. good observation, but he had this issue before today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Allen’s problem is 100% between his ears 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsUberAlles Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 It's fine. No issues with it from what I saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 He threw a 50 yard dime on a rope. It's fine. Wind was what impacted the early throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 It only bothers him in the first half. Heals up by the 4th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: All of his misses were the same, high and thrown too fast. Yes I believe the shoulder affected him a lot today. The doctor on locked on bills even predicted that as well 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, BillsFan130 said: The doctor on locked on bills even predicted that as well The twitter doctor? 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I was expecting a huge bomb at the end and it just wasn't there. His long throws all season have been horrible. Whatever the issue, his biggest strength has become a weakness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Franco_92 said: It's amazing how dim people get when they are angry Nobody is blaming the loss on the shoulder. Allen had 3 bad misses we haven't seen in years, because he flopped like an idiot trying to get a call against the Giants. Allen hasn’t missed a couple throws in years? Ooooookay lol. Easier to say “every bad play is an injury that is more severe than we know” so this joker gets off scot free for also being a no show for 3 quarters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Coldfronts said: No excuses...this is a bad team right now 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: Oh ***** off with this. Shoulder looked fine when we went hurry with 6 min left. 2 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said: This forum will find millions of excuses....he was fine, he just stunk. He's been stinking. It's worrisome - it's not injuries. 2 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Excuses. He played poorly for a majority of the game. No one is making up excuses. I'm not saying anything other than that shoulder seems to be more banged up then they let on. That could be a long term problem. I also flat out refuse to debate with unintelligent hyper active members of the board. If you don't want civil discussion....don't open the thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Einstein said: I think it affected him but I don’t think it’s why we lost. We scored 25 points against one of the greatest defensive minds to ever love. And we allowed 24 points to potentially the worst offense in the NFL. Too many injuries to key players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Allen’s problem is 100% between his ears It isn’t. Allen has limitations. The sooner this board accepts it, the sooner we can salvage it while he’s still good enough to win. We need another star WR. Allen does indeed need more help. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: He threw a 50 yard dime on a rope. It's fine. Wind was what impacted the early throws. He threw 75 after injuring his elbow last year. Your point? Don't have one? K. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: good observation, but he had this issue before today No he didn't? He literally had the highest completion percentage in the NFL before today. He's been incredibly accurate all year, and then today he was suddenly missing high or too far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, BuffaloBillyG said: No one is making up excuses. I'm not saying anything other than that shoulder seems to be more banged up then they let on. That could be a long term problem. I also flat out refuse to debate with unintelligent hyper active members of the board. If you don't want civil discussion....don't open the thread. Shoulder looked fine on the laser to Diggs. Hit him in the chest. There’s no civil discussion here. It’s a poorly veiled attempt to try to give the $250M man a pass, again, as if the only reason he misses throws is because of injury lmao. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) I was wondering what the excuses would look like this week. Here we go. Edited October 22, 2023 by QCity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 It's his brain not his shoulder. Always has been between the ears with Allen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: Allen hasn’t missed a couple throws in years? Ooooookay lol. Easier to say “every bad play is an injury that is more severe than we know” so this joker gets off scot free for also being a no show for 3 quarters. Absolute brainlet Since Allen flopped like a r*tard and screwed up his shoulder he has missed a bunch of wide open throws with no pressure, all in the same way. This is absolutely something that someone is going to bring up on a message board about the Buffalo Bills. The problem is that the braying mob decides that if you say anything that isn't "Everything sucks and everyone who sucks needs to be fired" there simply isn't anything to talk about, and all talk aside from this needs to be mocked and forbidden and loaded with ***** the poster didn't actually say. Enter, you! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 People make excuses.. but he has his share of ordinary games … They can’t win without him though either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: No one is making up excuses. I'm not saying anything other than that shoulder seems to be more banged up then they let on. That could be a long term problem. I also flat out refuse to debate with unintelligent hyper active members of the board. If you don't want civil discussion....don't open the thread. This would make a lot more sense if he didn’t open the game with an obvious stare down INT. His shoulder wasn’t to blame for that. Taking untimely sacks we’re on his shoulder. It’s easy to cop out on that being a reason but I don’t buy it: Just like he was concussed vs the jets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said: The twitter doctor? 🙄 Ya. Not saying his opinion is the holy gospel, but it’s a better guess than 99 percent of us including you and me. (Unless you have a doctor of physiotherapy degree) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: It's his brain not his shoulder. Always has been between the ears with Allen. I do agree, he has seemed to regress in other areas as well. That being said the body has to physically respond right as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Regardless of the arm problem, Josh's biggest problem is between the ears. He has shown poor judgment over and over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, BillsFan130 said: Ya. Not saying his opinion is the holy gospel, but it’s a better guess than 99 percent of us including you and me. (Unless you have a doctor of physiotherapy degree) No, I would not take anything any of the twitter docs say on any injury. I'd take Allen's word - and he said postgame (and all week for that matter) that it was fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 He's able to play and is still throwing with pace down field. I don't think it's as bad as some are making it out to be. I'm not sure the elbow was as compromised as we assumed last year either. It's not the shoulder's fault when Josh isn't seeing guys open. Playing under center more is a big change. Not having as many little guys who gets open is a big change. We're trying to be a run first team, except for Josh who isn't running nearly as much and doesn't look as fast when he does. I'm sure the shoulder is a factor just not the main issue. Josh is all out of sorts right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 The good news is we're saving his legs for the stretch run. Sometimes he is maddening but you just have to let him loose. You have to win 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, stlbills13 said: The good news is we're saving his legs for the stretch run. Sometimes he is maddening but you just have to let him loose. You have to win We are saving him for the playoffs … like last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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