USFL-XFL merge; become UFL w/USFL and XFL divisions

[PromoTheRobot]

 

[Mr. WEO]

Not Significant Football League is coming!!!

[PromoTheRobot]

I forgot Russ was working for them.

 

 

[Buffalo Super Fan]

I don’t think this league is going to make it either. For a minor league spring football league to possibly work all 32 NFL teams need to own a team in there own NFL market in there own stadium so the NFL is paying themselves. WLAF was a disaster because it wasn’t in all 32 NFL markets and all over the place in Europe with high cost to run. If the NFL doesn’t back a minor outdoor football league the league has zero chance. With all the new NFL stadiums curtain off the upper deck and try that. Selling tickets to fans that can’t afford the NFL prices. But without the NFL directly involved it won’t work. The reason why arena/indoor football leagues survive is because they pay $500 and a $1,000 a game with smaller rosters players playing two ways. These outdoor minor leagues spend to much money to survive my money is on the indoor leagues because the costs is more realistic. If you can spend $100 for a season ticket for Arena League or $250 for USFL season ticket there is not that much of a difference the players aren’t in the NFL so give me $100 for Arena League it’s cheaper in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

[stuvian]

let's hope they celebrate their players greatest achievements CFL style with induction onto the Tarp of Honour

 

 

[chongli]

The XFL and USFL will officially merge and become the UFL with eight teams. Announcement is tomorrow (12/31) on FOX at 12 noon ET:

 

 

 

[Malazan]

On 9/19/2023 at 10:19 AM, PromoTheRobot said:

I hope they use more XFL rules.

 

I've been saying they need to get rid of all the juicing rules and any rules against things like cybernetic limbs. Just let the guys in this league go nuts.

 

They'd make a killing.

[Buffalo ill]

They should try partnering with the nfl to market themselves as a farm league for the nfl.  Maybe even as a trial league for rule changes before they are applied to nfl games.  Make the refs full time between the leagues to work on improving the quality of officiating too.

[Don Otreply]

In 1.5 seasons they will go out of business because there is no draw for advertisers because there aren’t enough eyes watching, just like every other iteration of this failed football league. 

Just now, Buffalo ill said:

They should try partnering with the nfl to market themselves as a farm league for the nfl.  Maybe even as a trial league for rule changes before they are applied to nfl games.  Make the refs full time between the leagues to work on improving the quality of officiating too.

The NFL has a totally free farm league called college football…, and forget about the Refs, that is never going to change.

[BADOLBILZ]

31 minutes ago, chongli said:

The XFL and USFL will officially merge and become the UFL with eight teams. Announcement is tomorrow (12/31) on FOX at 12 noon ET:

 

 

 

 

 

Shoulda' renamed it the Unified Football Organization.

[LeGOATski]

47 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

In 1.5 seasons they will go out of business because there is no draw for advertisers because there aren’t enough eyes watching, just like every other iteration of this failed football league. 

They've already made it longer than that. The USFL just finished their 2nd season. This partnership only makes them stronger. It was the obvious move, instead of having two leagues compete for the same talent pool and viewers.

[LeGOATski]

49 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

The NFL has a totally free farm league called college football…, and forget about the Refs, that is never going to change.

It shouldn't be free and players should get paid. The NCAA has tried to change that with the new rules, but hasn't done enough. Instead of going to college to get a meaningless degree, players should go straight into a football "job," get paid full time, and ideally be tought about financial responsibility. That would be the best for these young men.

 

Most college players don't make it to the NFL. I hope that more and more of these guys choose to forego a college team and choose to be developed on an actual pro-style team. 

 

Despite not being an official farm league for the NFL, this could still lead to promising young players making the jump.

[LABILLBACKER]

On 9/19/2023 at 8:20 AM, boyst said:

UXFL?

UGHFL

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

They've already made it longer than that. The USFL just finished their 2nd season. This partnership only makes them stronger. It was the obvious move, instead of having two leagues compete for the same talent pool and viewers.

Come back to me in 1.5 years…

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

It shouldn't be free and players should get paid. The NCAA has tried to change that with the new rules, but hasn't done enough. Instead of going to college to get a meaningless degree, players should go straight into a football "job," get paid full time, and ideally be tought about financial responsibility. That would be the best for these young men.

 

Most college players don't make it to the NFL. I hope that more and more of these guys choose to forego a college team and choose to be developed on an actual pro-style team. 

 

Despite not being an official farm league for the NFL, this could still lead to promising young players making the jump.

Every once in a while at best

[PromoTheRobot]

7 hours ago, Buffalo ill said:

They should try partnering with the nfl to market themselves as a farm league for the nfl.  Maybe even as a trial league for rule changes before they are applied to nfl games.  Make the refs full time between the leagues to work on improving the quality of officiating too.

 

The NFL won't do that because they don't the CTE liability for another league. The NFL is quite fine with an arm's length relationship.

Edited December 31, 2023 by PromoTheRobot

[May Day 10]

If the nfl wants and needs minor league nfl, they would make it so.

[Lionel Hutz]

NSFWL

[Albany,n.y.]

On 9/19/2023 at 11:28 AM, DeltaDigital said:

Why? Go outside. Get a Haircut, change your oil, Cut your nails, wash your dog... plenty of other way more productive things to do... Can you tell me WHY you watch it? Im genuniely curious... 

I'm allergic to foliage, I only get a haircut once every 2-3 months in the middle of the week when no games are on, the car dealer changes my oil once a year, I cut my nails in the morning out of the shower when no games are on, no dog, etc.  

I watch it once in a while to see what may be future NFL players.  The Dallas Cowboys got their kicker from the USFL.  

Years ago I went to a UFL game in Connecticut just to see what it's like.  It was fun.  

[PromoTheRobot]

7 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

I'm allergic to foliage, I only get a haircut once every 2-3 months in the middle of the week when no games are on, the car dealer changes my oil once a year, I cut my nails in the morning out of the shower when no games are on, no dog, etc.  

I watch it once in a while to see what may be future NFL players.  The Dallas Cowboys got their kicker from the USFL.  

Years ago I went to a UFL game in Connecticut just to see what it's like.  It was fun.  

 

Cowboys WR/KR Kavonte Turpin was the USFL player of the year in 2022. 

[4merper4mer]

On 9/28/2023 at 2:50 PM, Mr. WEO said:

Not Significant Football League is coming!!!

I was thinking Not Safe For Looking.

[chongli]

 

 

 

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

It took me until last night to consider PromoTheRobot's thread title as possibly being a fiscal evaluation.  I can be quite obtuse. 🤔

[chongli]

Former Bills head coach Wade Phillips os coaching Birmingham:

 

 

[PromoTheRobot]

https://deadline.com/2024/01/united-football-league-teams-teams-cities-1235693463/

[PromoTheRobot]

So this is interesting. The franchise in Houston will be "USFL" but will drop the Gamblers name in favor of the XFL Roughnecks brand. Good news for me. Now I don't have to throw away my Roughnecks t-shirt. 😊

 

 

 

Edited January 2 by PromoTheRobot

[Heels20X6]

I guess I'm in the minority that I'd like the league to do well so players who get "missed" by scouts and coaches get a chance to show what they can do. 

 

More people finding work doing what they love is never a bad thing.  Hope it succeeds and provides a decent football viewing for during the NFL's offseason.

 

Though it annoys me that Michigan's name is "Panthers".  The UFL should avoid all NFL team names and brand themselves uniquely.

[Low Positive]

Is there a requirement that every attempt at spring football has to have a team in Birmingham?

[Heels20X6]

8 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Is there a requirement that every attempt at spring football has to have a team in Birmingham?

LOL, even the CFL put one of their US teams there.  Anyone remember the Barracudas?

[PromoTheRobot]

21 minutes ago, Heels20X6 said:

I guess I'm in the minority that I'd like the league to do well so players who get "missed" by scouts and coaches get a chance to show what they can do. 

 

More people finding work doing what they love is never a bad thing.  Hope it succeeds and provides a decent football viewing for during the NFL's offseason.

 

Though it annoys me that Michigan's name is "Panthers".  The UFL should avoid all NFL team names and brand themselves uniquely.

 

The Michigan Panthers existed before there was a Carolina Panthers. All the team names the USFL used (until now) were the original team names from 1983-1985 USFL.

[TheFunPolice]

This merger makes sense. 2 competing spring leagues when none have been able to stick was bad business 

[PromoTheRobot]

16 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Is there a requirement that every attempt at spring football has to have a team in Birmingham?

 

Probably because these teams do relatively well there. 

[PromoTheRobot]

 

 

[C.Biscuit97]

I know they would never do it but it would be awesome if young nfl qbs got to play in this. Like Trey Lance needs to play more. I would watch a Lance vs Zach Wilson game in the spring. Obviously, the injury concern but it would be great for developing qbs. 

[PromoTheRobot]

Just now, C.Biscuit97 said:

I know they would never do it but it would be awesome if young nfl qbs got to play in this. Like Trey Lance needs to play more. I would watch a Lance vs Zach Wilson game in the spring. Obviously, the injury concern but it would be great for developing qbs. 

 

At least undrafted players and cuts get the chance to keep playing. Last year the were 102 spring players invited to NFL camps so the pipeline is established.

[Gregg]

3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

At least undrafted players and cuts get the chance to keep playing. Last year the were 102 spring players invited to NFL camps so the pipeline is established.

 

I think this is the only way the league survives. With the NFL financing it and it becomes a minor league football for the NFL whereas you mentioned the pipeline is established for these players to eventually make it in the NFL. The only football most fans care about are the NFL and CFB. As history has shown these spring football leagues seem to fail so it will need the NFL helping it.

[Chandler#81]

What happened to the Philadelphia Stars? Multiple Championships and great franchise for Spring football.

[PromoTheRobot]

1 minute ago, Gregg said:

 

I think this is the only way the league survives. With the NFL financing it and it becomes a minor league football for the NFL whereas you mentioned the pipeline is established for these players to eventually make it in the NFL. The only football most fans care about are the NFL and CFB. As history has shown these spring football leagues seem to fail so it will need the NFL helping it.

 

The NFL will not put a nickel into it. But TV networks want spring programming and casinos want more football to bet on. The best chance for it to succeed is now.

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

The NFL will not put a nickel into it. But TV networks want spring programming and casinos want more football to bet on. The best chance for it to succeed is now.

 

I don't think it will survive. Springtime is the NHL/NBA playoffs plus baseball season is in full swing. The quality of play in these leagues is poor as the top talent will always go to the NFL.

[PromoTheRobot]

2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

What happened to the Philadelphia Stars? Multiple Championships and great franchise for Spring football.

 

They made the USFL finals in 2022 but lost to the Birmingham Stallions. The Stars were the only franchise to play in all 4 USFL title games. (2-2)

 

But they did not make the playoffs in 2023. And sadly they did not survive the merger this season. If the UFL makes it they may revive the Stars in the future.

1 minute ago, Gregg said:

 

I don't think it will survive. Springtime is the NHL/NBA playoffs plus baseball season is in full swing. The quality of play in these leagues is poor as the top talent will always go to the NFL.

 

Actually these spring football games drew ratings that matched or beat basketball, hockey and baseball. And the level of play wasn't as bad as you make it out to be. The playbooks were more basic because teams are put together quickly, but they had the same number of good or bad games as any other league.

[Gregg]

10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

They made the USFL finals in 2022 but lost to the Birmingham Stallions. The Stars were the only franchise to play in all 4 USFL title games. (2-2)

 

But they did not make the playoffs in 2023. And sadly they did not survive the merger this season. If the UFL makes it they may revive the Stars in the future.

 

Actually these spring football games drew ratings that matched or beat basketball, hockey and baseball. And the level of play wasn't as bad as you make it out to be. The playbooks were more basic because teams are put together quickly, but they had the same number of good or bad games as any other league.

 

I hope it does well. It would be nice to have a successful spring football league. The NFL's offseason is long, so more football is always welcomed IMHO.