USFL-XFL merge; become UFL w/USFL and XFL divisions

[PromoTheRobot]

 

 

I hope they use more XFL rules.

Edited January 2 by PromoTheRobot

[boyst]

UXFL?

[DeltaDigital]

OMG. let it die already. nobody cares about this... who watches this garbage? 

[HOUSE]

This is big, maybe 5 new fans will show up

[Warcodered]

Makes sense having two of them never made much sense when it was going to be a fight to get one to work.

[blitzboy54]

4 minutes ago, DeltaDigital said:

OMG. let it die already. nobody cares about this... who watches this garbage? 

 

I watch it

[zow2]

Well, makes sense since you definitely don't need two spring/summer leagues.  One league is the best they can hope for survival.,...and even then it's a hard road.

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, DeltaDigital said:

OMG. let it die already. nobody cares about this... who watches this garbage? 

 

Agree. Football in the spring doesn't work. It's been proven over and over again. The only football people care about are the NFL and college football. In the spring people are following the NHL playoffs (let's hope this happens in Buffalo this year), the NBA playoffs and baseball.

[DeltaDigital]

2 minutes ago, blitzboy54 said:

 

I watch it

Why? Go outside. Get a Haircut, change your oil, Cut your nails, wash your dog... plenty of other way more productive things to do... Can you tell me WHY you watch it? Im genuniely curious... 

[Dan Darragh]

On a scale of 1 to 100, I'm interested in the Bills 100, other NFL games 12-15, college football 2 and USFL/XFL football 0.

Edited September 19, 2023 by Dan Darragh

[Doc]

This is as big as LIV and the PGA merging…

[Charles Romes]

Bring back NFL Europe with players officially aligned to NFL teams. So many people liked it, it successfully marketed the NFL and laid the groundwork for expansion into Europe. The only reason they stopped is that even though the long term profits were unquestionable the short term profits were not there. 

[thenorthremembers]

XFL started with a great business model.   They wanted to be an alternative to college football to give kids with academic issues or the financial need to go pro right after high school a chance to get paid to play football.    Think Overtime Elite in basketball.   Instead they just did what every Spring League does and featured past their prime ex-NFLers and guys who never made to the league.  It's bad football.   Until the NFL agrees to make one of these leagues their farm system its never going to work.

[PromoTheRobot]

7 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

XFL started with a great business model.   They wanted to be an alternative to college football to give kids with academic issues or the financial need to go pro right after high school a chance to get paid to play football.    Think Overtime Elite in basketball.   Instead they just did what every Spring League does and featured past their prime ex-NFLers and guys who never made to the league.  It's bad football.   Until the NFL agrees to make one of these leagues their farm system its never going to work.

 

How is it not working? There are over 100 XFL and USFL players invited into NFL camps this year. And who cares if they are 2nd or 3rd time guys? Isn't the point of spring ball to work on your skills so you get another look?

26 minutes ago, DeltaDigital said:

OMG. let it die already. nobody cares about this... who watches this garbage? 

 

I'll never understand why some people get so angry over spring football.

[May Day 10]

I havent watched anything in the Spring since the first ever XFL game a long time ago... and that got boring and I tuned out by halftime.

 

I dont know what can move the needle for me to be compelled to watch.  I dont like the cities/markets they always choose.  NY, LA, St Louis, DC, Seattle, Houston, etc.  The team names and identities are also very boring.  They try to be extreme for the sake of it and as a result, you have miscellaneous brands and logos that represent the CPU generated teams on Madden or something.  

 

I believe if they went more regional, played in smaller venues, in places where people will go and care about the team.... maybe enough heat can be brought where it is interesting to watch for atmosphere?  

 

I dont care about 'bad football'.  I have watched a ton of compelling and entertaining MAC games.  

 

I guess these leagues try to be "NFL Jr" and in Vince McMahon's case even intended to compete with the NFL, it is offputting.  They need to know their place, find their nitch, get some traction, and grow it.  Not start the league, play in front of 60,000 people and sign giant TV deals.

 

 

Edited September 19, 2023 by May Day 10

[Beast]

Unless it’s like the original USFL that actually had star players, meh. I’ll tune in for a drive or two then find something else to watch if it’s rainy outside.

[Punching Bag]

38 minutes ago, DeltaDigital said:

OMG. let it die already. nobody cares about this... who watches this garbage? 

 

NFL teams watch it and sign players from both leagues.

It is a good way for players to get experience like they used to NFL Europe which a number of good players came from.

[That's No Moon]

It exists and it's on TV so it can be gambled upon. Everything else is secondary.

[The Frankish Reich]

Not since Spirit Airlines attempted to merge with Frontier Airlines have we had such a promising deal: killing two awful products in one fell swoop.

19 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

I believe if they went more regional, played in smaller venues, in places where people will go and care about the team.... maybe enough heat can be brought where it is interesting to watch for atmosphere? 

I think if you ran it like the NBA G League on a bigger stage, with minor league teams affiliated with NFL teams, you'd get people to pay attention. Until then, no.

[BillsShredder83]

47 minutes ago, DeltaDigital said:

OMG. let it die already. nobody cares about this... who watches this garbage? 

i get it, its not the most exciting thing to watch. i try getting into it a little each year, and its a tough watch..... but if they can grind through a decade and figure it out, it would be soooooooooo valuable to NFL play.  QB/OL play is hurting so much in the NFL, if fringe guys (trey lance sticks out, or a lot of these 5th or later picks) can find a way to start in XFL, then stick around for NFL training camps/meetings/prep, theyll be sharpening sword on both sides.

[boyst]

45 minutes ago, DeltaDigital said:

Why? Go outside. Get a Haircut, change your oil, Cut your nails, wash your dog... plenty of other way more productive things to do... Can you tell me WHY you watch it? Im genuniely curious... 

That's my Thursday to do list sans dog.

[PromoTheRobot]

For those who want the NFL to adopt the league, keep in mind the NFL doesn't want any more exposure to CTE lawsuits. So they are happy to maintain an arm's length relationship with both leagues. They already work with both to train officials.

 

The best part of the XFL, I thought, was the full transparency on officials calls and reviews. All refs were miked up as was the replay booth.

Edited September 19, 2023 by PromoTheRobot

[Nineforty]

48 minutes ago, DeltaDigital said:

Why? Go outside. Get a Haircut, change your oil, Cut your nails, wash your dog... plenty of other way more productive things to do... Can you tell me WHY you watch it? Im genuniely curious... 

 

I watched when I had a few ridiculous parlays (small bets) that involved legs from the XFL (couldnt bet on USFL). 

[The Jokeman]

So does Houston get two teams now? Or does one move to Tennesseee?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

7 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

So does Houston get two teams now? Or does one move to Tennesseee?

🎶All your ex-teams are in Texas

That's why you live in Tennessee🎵

🤔

[Livinginthepast]

The original USFL in the 80's was actually a viable league but anything since has been an utter joke. 

[May Day 10]

2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Not since Spirit Airlines attempted to merge with Frontier Airlines have we had such a promising deal: killing two awful products in one fell swoop.

I think if you ran it like the NBA G League on a bigger stage, with minor league teams affiliated with NFL teams, you'd get people to pay attention. Until then, no.

 

You are probably right.  If the Bills had a developmental team, I think I could (possibly) be compelled to watch

[SoCal Deek]

What’s the old saying? “It must be real…it’s on television!” 👍

[AuntieEm]

2 hours ago, DeltaDigital said:

OMG. let it die already. nobody cares about this... who watches this garbage? 

 

No let it thrive if they can help some unknown talent at oline emerge to help the NFL have more options for experience at a pro level.  And if they come up with any rule differences that make sense that gives them a view of any tweaks such rules might need for nfl standards.  Can find a number of ways the NFL could benefit from additional leagues.  Its unlikely they overtake the popularity of the NFL, unless the NFL owners really ignore fans on important issues.  

[Don Otreply]

So neither league is financially sound and both are hopping that by merging they might survive, wishful thinking, at best it gives them one more season, and then “POOF” they were gone, 

[Kmart128]

Honestly this i think gives them the best chance to survive. My biggest gripe with this little start up leagues is there just isnt enough teams

[Mr. WEO]

It really is the quickest way to double your losses...

[dorquemada]

what the hell am i supposed to do with all these unis and team themed gear now?  how am i supposed to get on fox sports 2 showing off my zany attire?  why me?

[MJS]

3 hours ago, DeltaDigital said:

OMG. let it die already. nobody cares about this... who watches this garbage? 

I don't watch, but it is another avenue for player development and scouting for the NFL. I hope it gets bigger and profitable and remains a good avenue for players to get back into the league. There are already success stories.

[Beast]

3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

For those who want the NFL to adopt the league, keep in mind the NFL doesn't want any more exposure to CTE lawsuits. So they are happy to maintain an arm's length relationship with both leagues. They already work with both to train officials.

 

The best part of the XFL, I thought, was the full transparency on officials calls and reviews. All refs were miked up as was the replay booth.

Who wants the NFL to “adopt” these leagues? 

[PromoTheRobot]

12 minutes ago, Beast said:

Who wants the NFL to “adopt” these leagues? 

 

Read the thread and see how may times someone wants the NFL to have a minor league, which will never happen.

[The Frankish Reich]

40 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

what the hell am i supposed to do with all these unis and team themed gear now?  how am i supposed to get on fox sports 2 showing off my zany attire?  why me?

Hang them right next to your He Hate Me Vegas Outlaws game-worn jersey.

[RobbRiddick]

4 hours ago, HOUSE said:

This is big, maybe 5 new fans will show up

Get the Chargers to jump ship and they can double that

[mrags]

5 hours ago, HOUSE said:

This is big, maybe 5 new fans will show up

No way. That would more than double their fan base. Those numbers just don’t exist in real life. 

[AuntieEm]

1 hour ago, Beast said:

Who wants the NFL to “adopt” these leagues? 

I wouldn't mind they make some kind of arrangement.  After all if they can help to bring along some promising potential olinemen that alone would be worth adopting.  Will it happen probably not but maybe it should.  They could give parameters of what skills are needed to be a olineman in nfl. They have no ability to get colleges to do so.  But giving some financial stability to a pro league with talent that needs development is a good start.