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Cowherd is paid to rile people up, so don't worry about his chatter. For a defensive minded coach I would like to see them make a stop when needed. Reference the 13 second game. 

Frazier had a bend don't break mentality. I'm going to be very interested in seeing what McD does with the defense this year. Hopefully a more aggressive defense.

 

 

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3 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said:

Today, Cowherd is beating his drum again about his dislike of defensive minded coaches. He brought up the Bills again, saying they are the 2nd highest paying team on defense in the NFL. His take (again) is we did nothing to bolster the offensive side of the ball. I definitely think we did. Your thoughts?

Out Crowder, McKenzie, in Harty and the guy from Miami, slips my mind.  In Kincaid, in McGovern and Torrence and some options to compete at RT.    The Bills have scored the most points in the NFL over the last three years, does he mention that?  If he did, I would ask what is he really trying to "fix"?   How does a team that completely ignores offense score the most points over the last three years?  Every roster has issues to knit pick, he may have a point about resources spent on defense but the GM focuses on both sides of the ball but the Bills are not devoid of offensive talent, Cowherd may be though.

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I went into the off season with the belief that "fix the offensive line, and you fix the offense." I think there is certainly reason to be optimistic that we've improved the O-line. That being said, I don't see any major improvements to the offense beyond that.

 

At WR, it still looks like we're rolling with Davis at #2WR-- or at least, there is no clear candidate to upgrade that position. He had a woeful catch percentage, and one of the worst drop rates in the league. Perhaps Harty will be an upgrade to McKenzie as a player, but I have a hard time seeing him really emerge as an effective slot. 

 

At RB, I'm happy with the addition of Murray as a third-and-short guy, but IMO Harris is a lateral move from Motor, at best. Their stats are very similar, but Motor has been running in our spread offense while Harris has been with a Belichick* team that had been built around their run game for a few seasons now (all the Mac & Cheese hype notwithstanding). 

 

At TE, I think we will at some point see a significant upgrade with rookie Kincaid.

 

Basically, I'm optimistic that the offense will be improved. But, it's all on paper. I can't yet believe that they'll be better than they were last season.

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Cowherd certainly does know how to put out the click bait…,    DON’T TAKE THE BAIT 

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4 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Of course, you're correct that one can avoid Cowherd and other people one doesn't like hearing from, but it also seems entirely reasonable to listen to different viewpoints, including those one may disagree with.

 

As far as "not wrong", I grade him "mixed".

 

Cowherd may or may not be wrong in his dislike of defensive minded head coaches.  Sirianni actually got his start as a DB coach.  Mike Tomlin was a WR, but came up the coaching ranks as a defensive coach.  Youngest HC to win a Superbowl in 2010.   Harbaugh ST coordinator and DB coach before becoming Ravens HC and winning the 2012 Superbowl.   Offensive head coaches are very "trendy" right now, but I think a quality coach is a quality coach.

 

He's not wrong, obviously it's factual, that the Bills are the #2 spending team in the NFL on D, though given that it's not even training camp yet, it remains to be seen how things shake out on 53 man rosters across the league. But we're actually spending more of the cap (52.23%) on offense than on defense (51.85%)  So pointing out the #2 spending team on defense, prior to training camp, seems like one of those "true but what does it mean?" facts.

 

"Nothing to bolster the offensive side of the ball" is just plain wrong.  1st round pick, Kincaid, TE  2nd round pick, O'Cyrus Torrence, OG  Our 2 biggest FA acquisitions were on offense - Connor McGovern, OG for $22.35M and Deonte Hardy for $9.5M.  One can debate whether they're the RIGHT offensive acquisitions, but not whether the Bills in fact tried to bolster the offense.

 

 

 


A lot has changed since Tomlin and Harbaugh found glory over a decade ago. 
 

“Defense wins championships,” is an antiquated philosophy. 
 

And even if defense DID still win championships, I’m not sure throwing out a geriatric defensive backfield and hanging your hopes on a geriatric Von Miller is the right way to go about things. 
 

I’m happy that the O line has been addressed (finally), but I still think we need a WR who complements Diggs in the playoffs and so far … nothing. 
 

I think it’s a legitimate concern. 

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5 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said:

His take (again) is we did nothing to bolster the offensive side of the ball. I definitely think we did. Your thoughts?


Im sure you know a lot of people posting here agree with this take right?… well perhaps not “nothing” but think that more could have been done 

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6 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

He's not wrong about the defense part. McDermott has had incredible resources poured into his defense and has been a major disappointment with it, especially against good competition. 

 

I thought the concensus last season was that Frazier just was not getting it done. 

 

Coming up with solid post-season game plans and making the adjustments needed more quickly during a game.

 

We will see this season what kind of juice McD has as a game-day coach, particularly down the stretch.

 

I am really curious how that change manifests over the season. 

 

 

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I don't think the problem is

  1.  being defensive minded. Or
  2. being the #1 or #2 spender on the defensive side of the roster. or
  3. spending most of the draft capital since Josh Allen was drafted (before 2023) on defensive players. 

 

I think the problem is doing  1,2 & 3 and having as a result a defense that chokes or doesn't show up in playoff games. 

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7 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said:

Today, Cowherd is beating his drum again about his dislike of defensive minded coaches. He brought up the Bills again, saying they are the 2nd highest paying team on defense in the NFL. His take (again) is we did nothing to bolster the offensive side of the ball. I definitely think we did. Your thoughts?

We added

Damian Harris- a proven tough yards, physical

Murray- another tough back

Sherfield- #3 WR in Miami last year, physical, one of stars of OTAs

Conor, Edwards, Cyrus, Shell- 1200+#s of OL

Kincaid- “best hands in 8 years scouting”, matchup problem

Hardy- another star of OTAs, “electric”

Shorter- former top recruit, 6’5- and the other 6’5 WRs in mix- WR 6 will be a battle!

 

Beane is still tinkering with roster, it’s very fluid.


Thats 9+ quality additions to Bills offense.

Cowherd showing he’s a fool who knows nothing about Beanes wizardry.  


mcfly Coward- you are going to learn

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7 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said:

Today, Cowherd is beating his drum again about his dislike of defensive minded coaches. He brought up the Bills again, saying they are the 2nd highest paying team on defense in the NFL. His take (again) is we did nothing to bolster the offensive side of the ball. I definitely think we did. Your thoughts?

Here’s an idea The Hoodie, Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson,  Chuck Noll  are all defensive minded coaches all are in Canton Ohio and have a combined 15 Super Bowl wins….every single one of them has a Hall of Fame QB.

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8 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said:

Today, Cowherd is beating his drum again about his dislike of defensive minded coaches. He brought up the Bills again, saying they are the 2nd highest paying team on defense in the NFL. His take (again) is we did nothing to bolster the offensive side of the ball. I definitely think we did. Your thoughts?

 

Colin has biases like that one which are way off base... he has ignored our moves on offense I think on purpose to make his point. One thing will solve this problem- McDermott has to show progress and why him coaching the D up instead of Frazier will make a marked difference.

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7 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Of course, you're correct that one can avoid Cowherd and other people one doesn't like hearing from, but it also seems entirely reasonable to listen to different viewpoints, including those one may disagree with.

 

As far as "not wrong", I grade him "mixed".

 

Cowherd may or may not be wrong in his dislike of defensive minded head coaches.  Sirianni actually got his start as a DB coach.  Mike Tomlin was a WR, but came up the coaching ranks as a defensive coach.  Youngest HC to win a Superbowl in 2010.   Harbaugh ST coordinator and DB coach before becoming Ravens HC and winning the 2012 Superbowl.   Offensive head coaches are very "trendy" right now, but I think a quality coach is a quality coach.

 

He's not wrong, obviously it's factual, that the Bills are the #2 spending team in the NFL on D, though given that it's not even training camp yet, it remains to be seen how things shake out on 53 man rosters across the league. But we're actually spending more of the cap (52.23%) on offense than on defense (51.85%)  So pointing out the #2 spending team on defense, prior to training camp, seems like one of those "true but what does it mean?" facts.

 

"Nothing to bolster the offensive side of the ball" is just plain wrong.  1st round pick, Kincaid, TE  2nd round pick, O'Cyrus Torrence, OG  Our 2 biggest FA acquisitions were on offense - Connor McGovern, OG for $22.35M and Deonte Hardy for $9.5M.  One can debate whether they're the RIGHT offensive acquisitions, but not whether the Bills in fact tried to bolster the offense.

 

 

 

So to sum it up, the Bills spend more on offense because they have Allen and Diggs vs Defense.  Cool.   Now the biggest additions to the team were guys averaging ~7m and 3m a year on offense, but we had no issue dropping 20M a year in Miller.  So I agree w Coward, entirely too much dumped into D, when O is winning the big dance.

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46 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Here’s an idea The Hoodie, Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson,  Chuck Noll  are all defensive minded coaches all are in Canton Ohio and have a combined 15 Super Bowl wins….every single one of them has a Hall of Fame QB.

completely different era long long gone 🤷‍♂️🙄🤷‍♂️

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5 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Out Crowder, McKenzie, in Harty and the guy from Miami, slips my mind.  In Kincaid, in McGovern and Torrence and some options to compete at RT.    The Bills have scored the most points in the NFL over the last three years, does he mention that?  If he did, I would ask what is he really trying to "fix"?   How does a team that completely ignores offense score the most points over the last three years?  Every roster has issues to knit pick, he may have a point about resources spent on defense but the GM focuses on both sides of the ball but the Bills are not devoid of offensive talent, Cowherd may be though.

Get off the points per game, you have one of the best QBs in the game that has to shoulder the entire load bc he has arguably the worst line in the NFL, zero running game and only 1 WR that’s ever sniffed 1000 yards in a season. The reason it fails is being completely predicated on Allen balling out.   When it’s stop one player, playoff teams get it done. 

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8 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

This is what I wish they’d do… as opposed to giving money to guys like Floyd and brining back Poyer, give that money to Hopkins… I mean if your defense is going to get its ass kicked in the playoffs no matter who you sign, then what’s the difference?

I'll always be an 'invest in offense first' guy, but hoping McD defense delivers! Well live and die by that this year and see what he's made of. He needs to dig deep. I dunno if he has it,  but believe he'll give everything he has

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2 hours ago, Pete said:

We added

Damian Harris- a proven tough yards, physical

Murray- another tough back

Sherfield- #3 WR in Miami last year, physical, one of stars of OTAs

Conor, Edwards, Cyrus, Shell- 1200+#s of OL

Kincaid- “best hands in 8 years scouting”, matchup problem

Hardy- another star of OTAs, “electric”

Shorter- former top recruit, 6’5- and the other 6’5 WRs in mix- WR 6 will be a battle!

 

Beane is still tinkering with roster, it’s very fluid.


Thats 9+ quality additions to Bills offense.

Cowherd showing he’s a fool who knows nothing about Beanes wizardry.  


mcfly Coward- you are going to learn

I am not taking Cowherd's side here, seriously... but...

 

Damian Harris is a lateral move from Motor-- at best.

Murray is 33 years old (that's really, really old in dog years!!!).

Sherfield is a little known commodity with a 56.3% catch percentage. That's just a hair above Gabe Davis.

Kincaid should be great, but he is a rookie.

Deante Harty has had four starts in his career. He's spent the bulk of his career as P/KR.

Shorter is a 5th round rookie. 

 

The one thing I have confidence in are the additions to the O-line-- but all of it's just on paper. There is reason to be optimistic that the offense will be improved from last season. But such an ascendence is certainly reliant on quite a few "ifs" falling in our favor.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Pete said:

We added

Damian Harris- a proven tough yards, physical

Murray- another tough back

Sherfield- #3 WR in Miami last year, physical, one of stars of OTAs

Conor, Edwards, Cyrus, Shell- 1200+#s of OL

Kincaid- “best hands in 8 years scouting”, matchup problem

Hardy- another star of OTAs, “electric”

Shorter- former top recruit, 6’5- and the other 6’5 WRs in mix- WR 6 will be a battle!

 

Beane is still tinkering with roster, it’s very fluid.


Thats 9+ quality additions to Bills offense.

Cowherd showing he’s a fool who knows nothing about Beanes wizardry.  


mcfly Coward- you are going to learn

 

 

Damian Harris - average RB

Murray - old, average RB

Sherfield - undrafted nobody who has never done much as a receiver

Conor McGovern - paid very good money for a guy whose never been a full time starter

Edwards - damaged goods

Torrence - rookie and built for different scheme than rest of Bills OL

Broeker - late round rookie

Shell - washed up vet who spent part of last season on practice squad until injuries forced him into action

Hardy - undrafted, very undersized, has produced little as a receiver and missed most of last year injured

Shorter - special teamer

 

That's the outside opinion of the Bills offensive acquisitions.   Every team has a bunch of these rando's who they hope will be better than they've been recently or ever.

 

Kincaid is the only one whose potential is very intriguing.........but he's a rookie.

 

I do think that that they threw enough chips at the OL that it should be improved even if a couple of those guys are failures.    If Kincaid turns into a star, then the WR corps could be good enough........but it's a big ask for a rookie.   The WR free agent additions are just shots in the dark.   Hopefully they produce but we thought that about OJ Howard and Jamison Crowder as well.   Heck, you might be one of the Tavon Austin-believers from when he was "electric" in OTA's last year.:lol:

 

 

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8 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Did not have a lot of money to spend, but often to free agents would you have liked to of seen that we could’ve actually afforded

 

Keep in mind, most of the people we brought are on minimum deals

He gave Oliver a big new contract.  Was that really the best possible use of resources?

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7 hours ago, Billl said:

He gave Oliver a big new contract.  Was that really the best possible use of resources?

It was if they were planning on resigning him, which may have been the case all along

7 hours ago, Success said:

Did he really say we did nothing on the offensive side?  

 

That's quite a take.

 

People like coward don’t really follow the team that closely he’s probably saying that because we didn’t go out and big DeAndre Hopkins to sign a huge contract

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7 hours ago, Billl said:

He gave Oliver a big new contract.  Was that really the best possible use of resources?

Olivers "big new contract" reduced his cap hit this year and got him for cheaper that what this year's cap hit was for next year as well. Plus has a reasonable out following that year. He then took that money and signed arguably the best vet pass rusher left on the market which was an area many here agreed they needed help at.

 

So, yes it was an excellent use of resources.

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35 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

It was if they were planning on resigning him, which may have been the case all along

But isn’t that an example of management by inertia?  If Oliver wasn’t already on the team, I can’t think of a single poster who would have been advocating for bringing him to Buffalo for that contract.  IMO, the dropoff between Oliver and a random DT acquired for $2 million would be minimal compared to what that money could have done for the offensive line or a WR.  

 

That’s the type of move he’s talking about.  Signing Poyer to another deal didn’t make the defense better.  It just brought back an even older version of the same guy.  Extending Oliver didn’t improve the D-Line.  It just brought back a more expensive version of the same guy.  He could have drafted someone to fill Poyer’s spot, signed someone cheap to fill Oliver’s spot, and re-allocated those resources to fill holes on offense while getting younger on the back end of the defense.  That strategy seems more effective than holding onto expensive and/or declining veterans on defense.

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18 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

He's not wrong, obviously it's factual, that the Bills are the #2 spending team in the NFL on D, though given that it's not even training camp yet, it remains to be seen how things shake out on 53 man rosters across the league. But we're actually spending more of the cap (52.23%) on offense than on defense (51.85%)  So pointing out the #2 spending team on defense, prior to training camp, seems like one of those "true but what does it mean?" facts.

 

"Nothing to bolster the offensive side of the ball" is just plain wrong.  1st round pick, Kincaid, TE  2nd round pick, O'Cyrus Torrence, OG  Our 2 biggest FA acquisitions were on offense - Connor McGovern, OG for $22.35M and Deonte Hardy for $9.5M.  One can debate whether they're the RIGHT offensive acquisitions, but not whether the Bills in fact tried to bolster the offense.

I don't think it is as simple as you make it appear.

 

Since 2017 (when McDermott took over the team) the Bills have had 7 first round draft choices (including of course the one in which he traded away the Mahomes pick and drafted a cornerback). 5 of them were used on defensive players and 2 went to the offensive side. Out of the 5 defenders chosen he actually traded up twice. In 2020 we had no first round pick and our second round pick was yet another defensive player. It seems to me that this is a very odd and rather dumb way to build a team that has a quarterback with generational talent.

 

I like what he did in the 2023 draft and I hope that it works because McDermott has neglected the offense, or at the very least dedicated too much of our best resources (huge contracts and 1st round draft choices) to the defense. For decades the Bills have neglected the offensive line and it has never made any sense. Now, I truly do hope that his offseason moves to bolster the OL will be enough, 6 years into his stay here.

 

The Bills need better blocking and receivers. They need to provide Josh with protection and weapons, not focus on defense in an offensive sport.

 

https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/teams/bills

 

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8 hours ago, Success said:

Did he really say we did nothing on the offensive side?  

 

That's quite a take.

 

Many of you follow this much much closer than I do. Seeing as how the Bills are clearly chasing the Bengals and Chiefs in the AFC arms race…what if any offensive moves did either of them make this offseason? 

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Just like most sports personalities, Cowherd is all about riling up fans so they pay attention to him.

This offseason, he's clearing getting some traction by ripping on Buffalo.  So he's going to keep doing it.

 

As usual, there are some good points that he makes.  For instance, how the Bills haven't done a good enough job surrounding Josh Allen with offensive weapons and blocking over the last few years.  That is very true.  But he then follows that with lazy and uneducated nonsense (the Bills have done NOTHING all offseason to help the offense...), which make him appear like a total idiot who doesn't even pay attention to what he's talking about.

 

The Bills spent their #1 and #2 draft picks to select the consensus top receiving Tight End in the draft, and the consensus top Guard in the draft.  Even the most negative NFL observer could probably admit that at least counts for doing something to help the O-Line and weapons.  And even if you don't like the players, the Bills also went out and signed three O-Line starters from other teams.  

 

Time will tell whether Brandon Beane's moves are enough.  But it's almost like Cowherd expected the Bills to trade for Justin Jefferson, Davante Adams, Trent Williams or Quentin Nelson... otherwise we didn't address the positions.  And that's just a stupid take.

 

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19 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said:

Today, Cowherd is beating his drum again about his dislike of defensive minded coaches. He brought up the Bills again, saying they are the 2nd highest paying team on defense in the NFL. His take (again) is we did nothing to bolster the offensive side of the ball. I definitely think we did. Your thoughts?

To say we did nothing to bolster the offense is admitting he doesn't even know the roster moves we made.

 

The O-line should be better.

 

The backfield is more robust and versatile with bigger backs who can grind short yardage.

 

The WR room is better.  We had to pull 2 guys in their 30s out of retirement for crying out loud last season.

 

The addition of Kincaid to this offense cannot be overlooked. He's a mismatch nightmare.

 

Ken Dorsey is the real wild card here.  In his 2nd season, let's have some confidence he can bring it all together.

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Colin Cowherd along with every other media outlet knows that any mention of the Bills and the fans go nuts. TV and Internet sites know that if they want viewer interaction then just mention anything about the Bills. I like Colin but he's so hypocritical that it's comical at this point.

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45 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I don't think it is as simple as you make it appear.

 

Since 2017 (when McDermott took over the team) the Bills have had 7 first round draft choices (including of course the one in which he traded away the Mahomes pick and drafted a cornerback). 5 of them were used on defensive players and 2 went to the offensive side. Out of the 5 defenders chosen he actually traded up twice. In 2020 we had no first round pick and our second round pick was yet another defensive player. It seems to me that this is a very odd and rather dumb way to build a team that has a quarterback with generational talent.

 

I like what he did in the 2023 draft and I hope that it works because McDermott has neglected the offense, or at the very least dedicated too much of our best resources (huge contracts and 1st round draft choices) to the defense. For decades the Bills have neglected the offensive line and it has never made any sense. Now, I truly do hope that his offseason moves to bolster the OL will be enough, 6 years into his stay here.

 

The Bills need better blocking and receivers. They need to provide Josh with protection and weapons, not focus on defense in an offensive sport.

 

https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/teams/bills

 


I was addressing Cowherd’s points that the fact we’re currently #2 in defensive spending (even though actual offensive cap spending is higher) combined with FA and draft moves means we’ve done “nothing” to bolster the offense.  I disagree, and it sounds as though for this year you do too.

 

I don’t think the draft investment is as straightforward as you paint it either.  For example, the reason we had no 1st round pick in 2020 was a trade for an excellent WR.  But that topic has been done to death.  Probably the best analysis was “Skarekrow” at Buffalo Rumblings-I’ll try to find his link later, if you haven’t seen it overall worth a read.  He concludes that yes  draft investment has been skewed to defense.  
 

But part of the picture is that our high offensive draft picks haven’t panned out.  If Zay Jones, Cody Ford, and Zach Moss were ballin’ for us, I think we’d see it differently.  I worry less that the offensive investment is insufficient and more that it’s gone to the wrong players, indicating our offensive talent scouting is not up to par.

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4 minutes ago, Beck Water said:


I was addressing Cowherd’s points that the fact we’re currently #2 in defensive spending (even though actual offensive cap spending is higher) combined with FA and draft moves means we’ve done “nothing” to bolster the offense.

 

I don’t think the draft investment is as straightforward as you paint it either.  For example, the reason we had no 1st round pick in 2020 was a trade for an excellent WR.  But that topic has been done to death.  Probably the best analysis was “Skarekrow” at Buffalo Rumblings-I’ll try to find his link later, if you haven’t seen it overall worth a read.  He concludes that yes  draft investment has been skewed to defense.  
 

But part of the picture is that our high offensive draft picks haven’t panned out.  If Zay Jones, Cody Ford, and Zach Moss were ballin’ for us, I think we’d see it differently.

Thanks, I would like to read that article. And while I do respect the moves that were made this offseason, I remain just a bit peeved over the years of neglect wrt WRs and the OL.

For the record, I think that you and others will grow to appreciate Damien Harris this season. He is by no means a superstar but between his running, receivng, and his bg time willingness to block, he might be capable of winning us a game or 2. 

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1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

I don't think it is as simple as you make it appear.

 

Since 2017 (when McDermott took over the team) the Bills have had 7 first round draft choices (including of course the one in which he traded away the Mahomes pick and drafted a cornerback). 5 of them were used on defensive players and 2 went to the offensive side. Out of the 5 defenders chosen he actually traded up twice. In 2020 we had no first round pick and our second round pick was yet another defensive player. It seems to me that this is a very odd and rather dumb way to build a team that has a quarterback with generational talent.

 

I like what he did in the 2023 draft and I hope that it works because McDermott has neglected the offense, or at the very least dedicated too much of our best resources (huge contracts and 1st round draft choices) to the defense. For decades the Bills have neglected the offensive line and it has never made any sense. Now, I truly do hope that his offseason moves to bolster the OL will be enough, 6 years into his stay here.

 

The Bills need better blocking and receivers. They need to provide Josh with protection and weapons, not focus on defense in an offensive sport.

 

https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/teams/bills

 

 

Diggs was also our "first round draft choice" in 2020.

 

 

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12 hours ago, cba fan said:

completely different era long long gone 🤷‍♂️🙄🤷‍♂️

Um hoodie is still coaching and seems a little lost without a franchise qb 🙄🙄🙄

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Many of you follow this much much closer than I do. Seeing as how the Bills are clearly chasing the Bengals and Chiefs in the AFC arms race…what if any offensive moves did either of them make this offseason? 

They aren’t chasing the Chiefs they’ve beaten the Chiefs. They are chasing the Bengals as the Bengals just kicked the crap out of their vaunted defense to the tune of 30 first downs. 

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4 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

His resume without Tom Brady is abysmal, which is also a fact.

True, but the point is that he is a defensive minded coach, and they won a lot. Would the Bills be as good as they are without Allen, highly doubtful. The Bills can win with a defensive minded coach and a superstar QB the same as the Patriots once did. 

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