PBF81 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/5/2023 at 4:18 PM, BullBuchanan said: I'm sure they won't have any problem selling out. It's not that many tickets, and now that they're good, it'll draw in plenty of more casual fans with disposable cash. In almost every case, I'd rather watch sports on TV rather than see them in person, especially football. You lose so much perspective by not being able to see the action as clearly as you can on TV and I feel like announcers and TV production in general can add a ton to the overall experience. It's cool to sit high at the 50 yard line to see all the strategy play out but you miss the details of the plays. The opposite is true for sideline and endzone seats, except in that case you end up watching msot of the game on a Jumbotron instead. As long as Allen is the QB they may be fine. It'll get interesting to see what happens after he retires. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 36 minutes ago, Gregg said: If the Bills do the same as the Jets and Giants did then they will be non-refundable. Expect the Bills to ask for the money in 2025 a year before the stadium opens. That is what happened with the move from Giants Stadium to MetLife Stadium. I received an email as a STH stating they will be reaching out this summer. I fully expect they will want some kind of pmnt at that time. The email did however say that because I was already a STH I didn’t need to do anything. Idk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 minute ago, mrags said: I received an email as a STH stating they will be reaching out this summer. I fully expect they will want some kind of pmnt at that time. The email did however say that because I was already a STH I didn’t need to do anything. Idk When MetLife was deemed safe tour both the Jets and Giants invited their season ticket holders to take a tour. Gives fans an idea of what the stadium looks like and where they want to sit. More importantly where they can afford to sit. A lot of fans who had tickets in the lower bowl at Giants Stadium took seats in the upper deck at MetLife for financial reasons. The Bills have to plan for all of this. I could see the Bills offering tours to their season ticket holders when the stadium is safe to walk around in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gregg said: When MetLife was deemed safe tour both the Jets and Giants invited their season ticket holders to take a tour. Gives fans an idea of what the stadium looks like and where they want to sit. More importantly where they can afford to sit. A lot of fans who had tickets in the lower bowl at Giants Stadium took seats in the upper deck at MetLife for financial reasons. The Bills have to plan for all of this. I could see the Bills offering tours to their season ticket holders when the stadium is safe to walk around in. It’s not going to happen. They already stated it’s going to be at least a year before it even resembles what might be a stadium. This first year is going to be almost all ground work. I don’t foresee any real structures going up until at least next summer. And they won’t have enough time to do what you are saying. They will be doing everything virtual at a 3rd party site located 25 min away from the stadium in Williamsville, in the Tony Walker plaza. I really wish what you had as a GiantsJets ticket holder came true here but it’s just not happening. Season ticket holders will be picking their seats before there is even walls up for the new stadium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/6/2023 at 8:32 AM, ddaryl said: For the premium seats, yes you can expect that. Most will fall between $1500 and $5000...... which is my guess. This was from the survey done by Legends that was sent out on behalf of the team about a year ago. It said that not all options may be available and again, it was a survey, but one would think that's about what we're looking at. I'm going to reorganize it by sidelines, EZs, etc. at some point. This is the way it was presented. ---------------------- The click-through poll laid out 48 price points for seats that range from the upper-level end zone (cheapest at $750 a ticket with a $600 PSL) to a field-level club seat between the 40-yard lines ($6,050 a ticket with a survey-high $24,750 PSL) to a 16-seat sideline suite ($347,700 for the box, averaging $21,250 a seat with no PSL). Reserved seating options Location: Upper level between 15-yard line and the end zone Coverage: Minimal, roof canopy-adjacent Heating: None Annual price per seat: $990 One-time PSL: $2,100 Location: Lower level between 15-yard line and end zone Coverage: None Heating: None Annual price per seat: $1,730 One-time PSL: $3,950 Location: Mezzanine level end zone Coverage: Significant Heating: None Annual price per seat: $900 One-time PSL: $1,150 Location: Lower level between 40- and 20-yard lines Coverage: None Heating: None Annual price per seat: $1,900 One-time PSL: $4,850 Location: Mezzanine level between 25-yard line and end zone Coverage: Significant Heating: None Annual price per seat: $1,580 One-time PSL: $3,200 Location: Upper level between 40-yard lines Coverage: Minimal, roof canopy-adjacent Heating: None Annual price per seat: $990 One-time PSL: $2,600 Location: Upper level end zone Coverage: Minimal, roof canopy-adjacent Heating: None Annual price per seat: $750 One-time PSL: $750 Location: Field level enhanced end zone Coverage: None Heating: None Annual price per seat: $1,580 One-time PSL: $3,950 Location: Mezzanine level between 40-yard lines Coverage: Significant Heating: Above seats Annual price per seat: $2,080 One-time PSL: $5,950 Location: Mezzanine level end zone Coverage: Significant Heating: Above seats Annual price per seat: $820 One-time PSL: $2,100 Location: Lower level enhanced end zone Coverage: None Heating: None Annual price per seat: $1,090 One-time PSL: $2,600 Location: Upper level between 40- and 15-yard lines Coverage: Minimal, roof canopy-adjacent Heating: None Annual price per seat: $990 One-time PSL: $1,400 Location: Mezzanine level corner Coverage: Significant Heating: Above seats Annual price per seat: $1,090 One-time PSL: $1,750 Location: Upper level between 15-yard line and end zone Coverage: Minimal, roof canopy-adjacent Heating: None Annual price per seat: $990 One-time PSL: $2,100 Location: Lower level corner Coverage: None Heating: None Annual price per seat: $1,440 One-time PSL: $3,950 Location: Mezzanine level between 40- and 25-yard lines Coverage: Significant Heating: None Annual price per seat: $1,440 One-time PSL: $4,850 Location: Upper level between 40- and 15-yard lines Coverage: Minimal, roof canopy-adjacent Heating: None Annual price per seat: $990 One-time PSL: $2,100 Location: Lower level between 40-yard lines Coverage: None Heating: None Annual price per seat: $2,280 One-time PSL: $9,000 Location: Mezzanine level between the 40-yard lines Coverage: Significant Heating: None Annual price per seat: $2,280 One-time PSL: $4,850 Location: Upper level end zone Coverage: Moderate, canopy overhead Heating: None Annual price per seat: $750 One-time PSL: $600 Location: Lower level between 25- and 15-yard lines Coverage: None Heating: None Annual price per seat: $2,080 One-time PSL: $5,950 Location: Upper level between 40-yard lines Coverage: Minimal, roof canopy-adjacent Heating: None Annual price per seat: $1,190 One-time PSL: $2,100 Location: Mezzanine level between 25-yard line and end zone Coverage: Significant Heating: None Annual price per seat: $1,310 One-time PSL: $4,850 Location: Lower level end zone Coverage: None Heating: None Annual price per seat: $1,190 One-time PSL: $1,750 Individual premium seating options Location: Mezzanine-level club seat between 40- and 25-yard lines Coverage: Significant Heating: Above seats Food and beverage: A la carte Annual price per seat: $2,800 One-time PSL: $11,200 Location: Mezzanine-level club seat between 40-yard lines Coverage: Significant Heating: None Food and beverage: A la carte Annual price per seat: $4,000 One-time PSL: $20,000 Location: Lower-level club seat between 40-yard lines Coverage: None Heating: None Food and beverage: A la carte Annual price per seat: $4,350 One-time PSL: $13,600 Location: Lower field-level club seat between 40-yard lines Coverage: None Heating: None Food and beverage: A la carte Annual price per seat: $5,050 One-time PSL: $13,600 Location: Lower-level club seat between 40-yard lines Coverage: None Heating: None Food and beverage: A la carte Annual price per seat: $5,350 One-time PSL: $9,200 Location: Mezzanine-level club seat between 40- and 25-yard lines Coverage: None Heating: None Food and beverage: A la carte Annual price per seat: $2,800 One-time PSL: $11,200 Location: Mezzanine-level club seat between 10-yard line and end zone Coverage: Significant Heating: Above seats Food and beverage: A la carte Annual price per seat: $2,400 One-time PSL: $5,150 Location: Lower field-level club seat between 40-yard lines Coverage: None Heating: None Food and beverage: A la carte Annual price per seat: $6,050 One-time PSL: $24,250 Location: Lower-level club suite between 40- and 25-yard lines Coverage: None Heating: None Food and beverage: A la carte Annual price per seat: $4,500 One-time PSL: $13,600 Location: Mezzanine-level club suite between 25- and 10-yard lines Coverage: Significant Heating: None Food and beverage: A la carte Annual price per seat: $3,000 One-time PSL: $6,250 Location: Lower-level club seat between 40-yard lines Coverage: None Heating: None Food and beverage: A la carte Annual price per seat: $4,350 One-time PSL: $11,200 Location: Mezzanine-level club seat between 40-yard lines Coverage: None Heating: None Food and beverage: A la carte Annual price per seat: $4,500 One-time PSL: $20,000 Suite seating options Location: Sideline executive suite Number of seats: 16 Coverage: Significant Heating: Above seats Food and beverage: All-inclusive Annual price: $198,150 One-time PSL: Not required Location: Suite-level living-room box in corner Number of seats: Four Coverage: Significant Heating: None Food and beverage: All-inclusive Annual price: $75,150 One-time PSL: Not required Location: Suite-level loge box on sideline Number of seats: Four Coverage: Significant Heating: Above seats Food and beverage: All-inclusive Annual price: $54,000 One-time PSL: Not required Location: Suite-level loge box on sideline Number of seats: Four Coverage: Significant Heating: Above seats Food and beverage: All-inclusive Annual price: $60,250 One-time PSL: Not required Location: Suite-level mini suite on sideline Number of seats: Eight Coverage: Enclosed Heating: Climate-controlled Food and beverage: All-inclusive Annual price: $103,450 One-time PSL: Not required Location: Suite-level owner’s suite on center sideline Number of seats: 16 Coverage: Significant Heating: Above seats Food and beverage: A la carte Annual price: $347,700 One-time PSL: Not required Location: Suite-level owner’s suite on center sideline Number of seats: 16 Coverage: Enclosed Heating: Climate-controlled Food and beverage: All-inclusive Annual price: $214,150 One-time PSL: Not required Location: Suite-level loge box on corner Number of seats: Four Coverage: Significant Heating: None Food and beverage: A la carte Annual price: $63,250 One-time PSL: Not required Location: Suite-level living-room box on corner Number of seats: Four Coverage: Significant Heating: None Food and beverage: A la carte Annual price: $63,250 One-time PSL: Not required Location: Suite-level executive suite on sideline Number of seats: 16 Coverage: Significant Heating: Above seats Food and beverage: All-inclusive Annual price: $267,700 One-time PSL: Not required Location: Suite-level mini suite on sideline Number of seats: Eight Coverage: Enclosed Heating: Climate-controlled Food and beverage: All-inclusive Annual price: $77,100 One-time PSL: Not required Location: Suite-level living-room box on sideline Number of seats: Four Coverage: Significant Heating: Above seats Food and beverage: All-inclusive Annual price: $60,250 One-time PSL: Not required 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 minute ago, mrags said: It’s not going to happen. They already stated it’s going to be at least a year before it even resembles what might be a stadium. This first year is going to be almost all ground work. I don’t foresee any real structures going up until at least next summer. And they won’t have enough time to do what you are saying. They will be doing everything virtual at a 3rd party site located 25 min away from the stadium in Williamsville, in the Tony Walker plaza. I really wish what you had as a GiantsJets ticket holder came true here but it’s just not happening. Season ticket holders will be picking their seats before there is even walls up for the new stadium. Really that is surprising. It took them 3 years to build MetLife. They still had time for tours. You can have a virtual tour which is helpful but it's not even close to being there live. Bills fans deserve to be able to take a real tour in the stadium to get a feel for the place since the Bills will be asking for a lot of money from them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gregg said: Really that is surprising. It took them 3 years to build MetLife. They still had time for tours. You can have a virtual tour which is helpful but it's not even close to being there live. Bills fans deserve to be able to take a real tour in the stadium to get a feel for the place since the Bills will be asking for a lot of money from them. Believe me. I agree with you 100%. I’m actually pretty angry about it. But everything I’ve been told from multiple sources is that you will have to pick your seats virtually and that process starts this summer. By the time they even have the ability to have tours it’ll be too late imo. You’ll have already picked your seats at that point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 13 hours ago, Limeaid said: "Dog and Pony" is a better name for Jerry Jones' company. I wish Pegulas never hooked up with him. I know how we all feel about "Jerruh" but Legends is regarded as one of the best. @Kirby Jackson could probably tell us more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 $75k for 4 tickets in a suite to watch football 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 58 minutes ago, mrags said: I received an email as a STH stating they will be reaching out this summer. I fully expect they will want some kind of pmnt at that time. The email did however say that because I was already a STH I didn’t need to do anything. Idk You don't have to put a deposit down. And your ST seniority will determine when you get the call. I'll bet they will offer a payment plan for PSLs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: You don't have to put a deposit down. And your ST seniority will determine when you get the call. I'll bet they will offer a payment plan for PSLs. That’s a given. I expected all of that 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 High ticket prices means empty seats. More and more people are having trouble making ends meet. I've watched living standards decline since the 80's and the economy no shown no sign of turning around during that time regardless of who is in the WH. It's hard to justify buying football tickets if it means you can't afford to take your child to the doctor. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) They could have gotten a way higher premium for the seats if they just built a dome Edited June 8, 2023 by Mrbojanglezs 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Major thank you to all in advance who support by buying season tickets. I have always thought it would be cool to have a pair but being four hours away and the cost just doesn’t make sense for our situation. The older I get now , the more content I am to catch one game live and watch the rest at home. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 8 hours ago, mrags said: It’s not going to happen. They already stated it’s going to be at least a year before it even resembles what might be a stadium. This first year is going to be almost all ground work. I don’t foresee any real structures going up until at least next summer. And they won’t have enough time to do what you are saying. They will be doing everything virtual at a 3rd party site located 25 min away from the stadium in Williamsville, in the Tony Walker plaza. I really wish what you had as a GiantsJets ticket holder came true here but it’s just not happening. Season ticket holders will be picking their seats before there is even walls up for the new stadium. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. I have no interest in getting season tickets in the new stadium but was hoping to play the "game" with the ticket reps up to the point I could get a tour of the new stadium but there's no way I'm giving them any $$$ in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Will be interesting to see how this plays out. I have no interest in getting season tickets in the new stadium but was hoping to play the "game" with the ticket reps up to the point I could get a tour of the new stadium but there's no way I'm giving them any $$$ in advance Yeah I don’t think that’s going to happen at all for you. I could be wrong but everything I’ve read, heard, and been informed by multiple reps is it’s not going to play out that way. The best you’re going to get is a virtual tour. Maybe yours will happen once there’s some significant structures up, but I believe it’ll end up being too late if you plan on getting one before you e already started to make pmnts or at least committed to seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 8 hours ago, nucci said: $75k for 4 tickets in a suite to watch football With no heating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, chongli said: With no heating! Maybe they'll have TVs in the crappers so they can go in there and watch the game where it's warmer. Edited June 9, 2023 by PBF81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Will be interesting to see how this plays out. I have no interest in getting season tickets in the new stadium but was hoping to play the "game" with the ticket reps up to the point I could get a tour of the new stadium but there's no way I'm giving them any $$$ in advance They'll probably offer tours for a fee once the stadium opens, like the Raiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, chongli said: They'll probably offer tours for a fee once the stadium opens, like the Raiders. Or maybe for $20 or something or would be reasonable too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 8 hours ago, mrags said: Believe me. I agree with you 100%. I’m actually pretty angry about it. . Weird. I’ve never known you to be angry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, PBF81 said: Or maybe for $20 or something or would be reasonable too. One would hope...but Allegiant charges $65.99 (or more) for just a tour. Of course, that's Las Vegas with plenty of tourists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, Gugny said: Weird. I’ve never known you to be angry. Naw never 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, mrags said: Yeah I don’t think that’s going to happen at all for you. I could be wrong but everything I’ve read, heard, and been informed by multiple reps is it’s not going to play out that way. The best you’re going to get is a virtual tour. Maybe yours will happen once there’s some significant structures up, but I believe it’ll end up being too late if you plan on getting one before you e already started to make pmnts or at least committed to seats. No I think your right, I was hoping that would be the best case scenario initially but I can already tell they aren't going to waste any time getting their hands on people's $$$....Those greedy bastards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 9 hours ago, nucci said: $75k for 4 tickets in a suite to watch football But it includes all the wings you can eat and a keg of Genny Screamers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, mrags said: Yeah I don’t think that’s going to happen at all for you. I could be wrong but everything I’ve read, heard, and been informed by multiple reps is it’s not going to play out that way. The best you’re going to get is a virtual tour. Maybe yours will happen once there’s some significant structures up, but I believe it’ll end up being too late if you plan on getting one before you e already started to make pmnts or at least committed to seats. Supposedly they are limiting season tickets to 50K. If they don't get too greedy on PSL prices they will all sell out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, chongli said: One would hope...but Allegiant charges $65.99 (or more) for just a tour. Of course, that's Las Vegas with plenty of tourists. That's a lot, I just don't care that much. I think I'd rather see it for the first time when I go to a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Supposedly they are limiting season tickets to 50K. If they don't get too greedy on PSL prices they will all sell out I don’t believe that for 1 minute. But it doesn’t sound wrong based on numbers. I believe they were limited in the current stadium to 55 or 58k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, mrags said: I don’t believe that for 1 minute. But it doesn’t sound wrong based on numbers. I believe they were limited in the current stadium to 55 or 58k. Maybe I remember it wrong but I thought it was going to be all season tickets and the only general sale tickets will be standing room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said: They could have gotten a way higher premium for the seats if they just built a dome Yeah. Even rich people like me who like to interact with the plebs once in a while don't want to sit in the elements. I'd buy seasons if it was a dome but after suffering through that '07 Giants home game.....forget about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Maybe I remember it wrong but I thought it was going to be all season tickets and the only general sale tickets will be standing room. Yeah I just don’t think that’s gonna be the case. We will see soon enough though. The process should be starting soon. I’ve received multiple emails saying it will be this summer. Just now, Doc Brown said: Yeah. Even rich people like me who like to interact with the plebs once in a while don't want to sit in the elements. I'd buy seasons if it was a dome but after suffering through that '07 Giants home game.....forget about it. Omg that 07 Giants game was possibly the worst game I’ve ever been too. Nothing like sideways rain at about 39° with 40+ mph winds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) From today's BN... A big part of that will be providing for season ticket holders an early look inside the new $1.54 billion stadium and how and where each of these fans will fit into it. Since it is impossible to do that in person for a facility that won’t be fully constructed until 2026, much of it will be accomplished through a stadium fan interaction center, the Stadium Experience, currently under construction in an open space at the Walker Center in Williamsville. It is expected to open by the end of the summer. The Bills had initially said it would open in the spring. The invitation-only center will be a place where season ticket holders can custom design their experience at the new stadium. https://buffalonews.com/business/local/want-a-seat-at-the-new-bills-stadium-new-virtual-reality-center-will-give-fans/article_4caac752-0464-11ee-8bea-83457be204f1.html?utm_source=buffalonews.com&utm_campaign=%2Fnewsletter-templates%2Flocal%2Fbills&utm_medium=PostUp&lctg=4131090&tn_email_eh1=ed71e5595fa602584e1e21b223f584b3beb0e25f Edited June 9, 2023 by LabattBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 On 6/8/2023 at 7:51 AM, SoMAn said: I meant I disagree with your assessment that you miss details. For me, details are missed when I can’t see the entire field (as I can in-person) and the TV field of vision often doesn’t allow us to see pass patterns develop or where the receivers are. Only on replays with different angle do we get that perspective. I want to see every player on the field to see where the play is going. TV focuses only on the ball when it’s live. That's not debatable though. You miss all of the details live - or the micro view. You don't get to see the details of a toe-tap, the intricacies of the trench battles, the placement of the football, whether or not a player was down before a turnover, etc on the opposite end of the field from where you're sitting. What you get in exchange is the macro view. You get to see how the safety was ballhawking the whole play before the sudden interception, how a receiver was wide open down the field, how a corner passes off responsibility of his man to the second level. You get to see more X's and O's and the expense of knowing more about what actually happened on the play. It's why it's not uncommon to hear fans reacting in a stadium in a way completely opposite to people at home. They're relying on limited information and a jumbotron to tell them what happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: That's not debatable though. You miss all of the details live - or the micro view. You don't get to see the details of a toe-tap, the intricacies of the trench battles, the placement of the football, whether or not a player was down before a turnover, etc on the opposite end of the field from where you're sitting. What you get in exchange is the macro view. You get to see how the safety was ballhawking the whole play before the sudden interception, how a receiver was wide open down the field, how a corner passes off responsibility of his man to the second level. You get to see more X's and O's and the expense of knowing more about what actually happened on the play. It's why it's not uncommon to hear fans reacting in a stadium in a way completely opposite to people at home. They're relying on limited information and a jumbotron to tell them what happened. If those details are more important to the viewer, their best value is watching on TV. Trying to replicate ‘the live experience’ is the goal of all that virtual crap with Wi games and goggles, etc. For all those digital efforts, there’s still nothing that compares to the real thing. Is a music concert shown on the best TV screen with a superior sound system anywhere near the experience of being in an arena or auditorium with a top act? Negative. Today, you can have the best of both worlds by being in the stands and having your mobile device in your hand for replays if it’s that important. I’d rather be taking in all the sights, sounds, and smells of real life. Given a choice I’ll delay any dependence on a video screen when I’m tethered to an oxygen tank, an afghan blanket on my lap, as I fart Ensure into the cushion of my Lazy-Boy recliner. Edited June 10, 2023 by SoMAn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 6 hours ago, SoMAn said: Given a choice I’ll delay any dependence on a video screen when I’m tethered to an oxygen tank, an afghan blanket on my lap, as I fart Ensure into the cushion of my Lazy-Boy recliner. I know for a fact it’s the Metamucil that makes you fart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 7 hours ago, SoMAn said: If those details are more important to the viewer, their best value is watching on TV. Trying to replicate ‘the live experience’ is the goal of all that virtual crap with Wi games and goggles, etc. For all those digital efforts, there’s still nothing that compares to the real thing. Is a music concert shown on the best TV screen with a superior sound system anywhere near the experience of being in an arena or auditorium with a top act? Negative. Today, you can have the best of both worlds by being in the stands and having your mobile device in your hand for replays if it’s that important. I’d rather be taking in all the sights, sounds, and smells of real life. Given a choice I’ll delay any dependence on a video screen when I’m tethered to an oxygen tank, an afghan blanket on my lap, as I fart Ensure into the cushion of my Lazy-Boy recliner. You come off sounding jaded and a behind the times here. The bold backs it up. A top tier sound system absolutely can reproduce live music experiences. That's why people spend tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars on audio equipment. I love live music, but I can go to a concert or a movie theater in my living room any day of the week I prefer the best experience possible. So give all that "virtual crap" over watching the game 100 yards away through a set of binoculars any day. I get in a live game once every 5-10 years and that's more than plenty. I'll save the live sports for a minor league baseball game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 On 6/5/2023 at 1:31 PM, WotAGuy said: I’m curious as to what amenities you think the new stadiums don’t have that fans want….. Beer taps at every seat? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 2 hours ago, BobbyC81 said: Beer taps at every seat? And a piss trough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 (edited) On 6/6/2023 at 8:05 AM, Gregg said: The next 3 years will be rough. The new stadium being built with games still being played at the current stadium. Less parking spots and traffic on game days will be more difficult. It will be a pain in the ass until the current stadium is taken down. The front lawn lots can charge 10X during the construction than what they charged before. Ca-ching! It's going to be a mess. 15 hours ago, WotAGuy said: And a piss trough They already have piss troughs (aka sinks) in the men's rooms. 17 hours ago, BobbyC81 said: Beer taps at every seat? You know that's not a bad idea, nor is it out of the realm of pissability. Edited June 11, 2023 by Irv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Irv said: They already have piss troughs (aka sinks) in the men's rooms. No, no! At the SEATS. You can thank me later for this idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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