Floridagatorsbuffalobills Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I'd say this teams biggest needs as of today are (no particular order): True #2 WR - I know there are a lot of Gabe Davis fans out there, but to me the Bills need more than Gabe Davis. No doubt about it, he's solid, but teams last year showed how to stop the Bills: Double Diggs, put their best #1 CB on Gabe Davis = shut us down. It's probably wishful thinking, but send Ed Oliver and a 3rd or 4th to either Tampa or Arizona for Mike Evans or DeAndre Hopkins. Make a splash Buffalo. Teams in our division are. Miami, the Jets, all are make legit strong pushes to take over the division. Stop trying to build through the draft every year and go after a legit day 1 impact player. MLB: Bobby Wagner on a 1 year deal here makes so much sense. Granted I know our CAP space is tight, but there's ways to work around this. This draft isn't loaded with great MLB's. Dominant DT - Right now I think we have Oliver, Settle, and Jones on the roster? We need a stud run stuffer in the middle. Someone 320+, not another 280lb DT like Ed. If we could get a 3rd or 4th out of Oliver, I'd do it in a heart beat. Right Tackle - Someone has to come in and compete with Spencer Brown. He has ranked near the bottom in his two years in the NFL. I know Beane gave him some praise at the end of year presser, but you can't tell me they're satisfied with what he's shown. He and Saffold were hands down the two worse players on our Oline last year. Backup QB - I think the Bills are going to try and draft a late round QB to compete with Barkley for the backup spot. A backup QB would cost a lot less than signing a veteran and we've seen in the league the last couple years several late round QB's become decent quality QB's. So this would mean WR, MLB, DT, and RT are all our biggest needs. Looking at PFF's Big Board WR: 5 ranked inside the top 30/ 2 inside the top 11 DT: 3 inside the top 30/ 2 inside the top 13 RT: 4 inside the top 30/ 2 inside top 20 MLB: 0 inside the top 30/ 4 from 37 to 66 Obviously their rankings don't really mean much in the grand scheme of things and most NFL teams could look a lot different, but just for reference it does show which positions are strong in the early rounds. Unless the Bills do the unthinkable and send a pick for a Mike Evans or DeAndre Hopkins, I'd say the likeliest choice at 27 will be WR or RT. Flowers, Addison, Downs, or Harrison, Jones (Georgia), or Jones (OSU). Whoever it is needs to be a day 1 impact starter. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Were 5 1 1 6 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) Are you forgetting the Bills signed Kyle Allen? They aren't drafting a "backup quarterback " this year. Maybe an undrafted arm for camp. Forget the Hopkins fatasy; I just don't think Beane can raise much more money via restructures. Can't assume another team wants Oliver, but if you DO trade him,you create another roster hole. And....if you SIGN WAGNER fine,for THIS year. But then,where would you DRAFT the eventual MLB? Would you wait until next year? Edited March 23, 2023 by Herb Nightly Add Oliver trade 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floridagatorsbuffalobills Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Were 😱 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Can’t mess up our comp pic formula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Were Not that I’m above being the grammar police, but in the OP’s defense I find that to be a frequent and frustrating autocorrect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) it can't be unthinkable if you thought about trading for Evans or Hopkins. It's like when announcers describe a play as unbelievable. Can't be if you just saw it happen Edited March 23, 2023 by nucci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Were beat me to it. we're a couple of observant folks that were caught looking close at the title. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Not that I’m above being the grammar police, but in the OP’s defense I find that to be a frequent and frustrating autocorrect. For the odd word, yes. But your posts in their entirety read like they were auto corrected. 🤪 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I’ve seen so many lists like this. It’s impossible for me to believe that as things stand right now their biggest hole isn’t at MLB. They literally don’t have one. This isn’t to say that it’ll be the top draft pick or a free agent pick up…but as of this minute they are NOT going into the new season with what they have in the proverbial stock room. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 This is a reasonable list, but I agree with the previous post that the #1 glaring hole, right now, is MLB. There is nobody on the current roster who can adequatlely fill that role. I think that they need to both sign a veteran and also draft one. Where in the draft you select one will depend on who they sign in FA before the draft. More OL help, a #2 WR and a backup safety are also on the list. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: For the odd word, yes. But your posts in their entirety read like they were auto corrected. 🤪 Odd. I find yours lack a lot of desirable corrections. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, msw2112 said: This is a reasonable list, but I agree with the previous post that the #1 glaring hole, right now, is MLB. There is nobody on the current roster who can adequatlely fill that role. I think that they need to both sign a veteran and also draft one. Where in the draft you select one will depend on who they sign in FA before the draft. More OL help, a #2 WR and a backup safety are also on the list. My question is...if, for example,you sign Wagner,why would you invest a high pick on another MLB, that would be sitting on the bench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 If they go after Flowers, Addison, or Downs I’m going to throw up 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 What if the draft were held later today? …..or tomorrow? …..or the day after tomorrow? …..or the day after that? It is maddening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: What if the draft were held later today? …..or tomorrow? …..or the day after tomorrow? …..or the day after that? It is maddening! what if the season started today? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 The Edwards signing boosts the IOL so, for better or worse, I think they're about done there. R1 - LB/OT R2 - OT/LB R3 - WR/DL R4 - DL/WR R5 - S/TE R6 - TE/S 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floridagatorsbuffalobills Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Airseven said: The Edwards signing boosts the IOL so, for better or worse, I think they're about done there. R1 - LB/OT R2 - OT/LB R3 - WR/DL R4 - DL/WR R5 - S/TE R6 - TE/S Problem with this is based on several different big boards, not many LB's ranked high. Most have shown early 2nd rounds for the highest rated LB's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Floridagatorsbuffalobills said: Problem with this is based on several different big boards, not many LB's ranked high. Most have shown early 2nd rounds for the highest rated LB's. Either get Campbell in the 2nd rd or Sewell in the 3rd or 4th 8 minutes ago, Airseven said: The Edwards signing boosts the IOL so, for better or worse, I think they're about done there. R1 - LB/OT R2 - OT/LB R3 - WR/DL R4 - DL/WR R5 - S/TE R6 - TE/S Agree. It’s looking more and more like a high draft pick on IOL isn’t going to happen. Maybe someone like Vorhees in the 4th or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 47 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’ve seen so many lists like this. It’s impossible for me to believe that as things stand right now their biggest hole isn’t at MLB. They literally don’t have one. This isn’t to say that it’ll be the top draft pick or a free agent pick up…but as of this minute they are NOT going into the new season with what they have in the proverbial stock room. Wrong. They do have one. They drafted bernard last year with a day 2 pick as insurance in losing edmunds. They need to develop him and make it work. Can’t keep dumping into the d and ignoring the offense with premium picks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, Floridagatorsbuffalobills said: Problem with this is based on several different big boards, not many LB's ranked high. Most have shown early 2nd rounds for the highest rated LB's. If the player you want/need is available at 27, you take him. You don't worry that the mock draft experts had them in the 30's and 40's. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I want a TE in the first 3 picks gotta get one in a class this deep. If Hyatt and Kincaid are off the board with 27 I’m ok trading back into the second and drafting Drew Sanders and Sam Laporta 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 42 minutes ago, mrags said: If they go after Flowers, Addison, or Downs I’m going to throw up by "go after" do you mean pick at 27, or trade up? I'm fine at 27, would not trade up for them, because the cost is likely another pick that could be an OC, and an OT at 27. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floridagatorsbuffalobills Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, whorlnut said: Wrong. They do have one. They drafted bernard last year with a day 2 pick as insurance in losing edmunds. They need to develop him and make it work. Can’t keep dumping into the d and ignoring the offense with premium picks. Agreed. He's got a long ways to go though. He's undersized for a MLB first off. I think when he was drafted he's like 6'3 225. He'd need to bulk up this offseason and put on a solid 15-20lbs to even be considered an every down MLB. They also liked Baylon Spencer too and re-signed Tyrel Dodson who has seen some starting action when Edmunds was out. Not saying any of those guys are the answer, but I'm sick of ignoring the offense to continue to try and win a SB through a defense. This offense needs weapons and to protect Allen. They're working on the protection part, but we need a RT and legit #2 WR more than anything else. Obviously stud LB too but RT, WR, and LB most important. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Wrong. They do have one. They drafted bernard last year with a day 2 pick as insurance in losing edmunds. They need to develop him and make it work. Can’t keep dumping into the d and ignoring the offense with premium picks. So that’s the plan? This’ll be interesting for sure. Have we seen anything that would show he’s ready to assume that role? I’m game if you are! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floridagatorsbuffalobills Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: So that’s the plan? This’ll be interesting for sure. Have we seen anything that would show he’s ready to assume that role? I’m game if you are! 👍 He struggled last year in his only start against I think the Jets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, Floridagatorsbuffalobills said: He struggled last year in his only start against I think the Jets? I honestly have no idea. I’m just amazed that anyone is ready to put all the eggs in that one basket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floridagatorsbuffalobills Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I honestly have no idea. I’m just amazed that anyone is ready to put all the eggs in that one basket. I highly doubt they are banking on Bernard, but they may be thinking between Bernard, Dodson, Spector and then a mid round pick this year they can find someone? Who knows. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 A backup safety or two would be nice, maybe on Day 3. Poyer and Hyde are getting older. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I've got a bit of a different take than the OP, but with some overlap. I'd say this teams biggest needs as of today are (no particular order): True #2 WR - I totally agree that we need to draft a WR in this draft, but it can't be forced over other needs that are more immediate, and concerning. I think that even if the board didn't "fall right" to select a WR, we would be okay. I have a good level of confidence that Davis will rebound. MLB: I think that Bobby Wagner might be asking for too much, and regardless, we would still need to draft the "heir apparent". I think that we have very little choice but to draft MLB in the first round. Easily the #1 need this draft. Dominant DT - Personally I'm looking for a depth player, with NOSE tackle capabilities. We are lacking in that area. Right Tackle - I'm just going to call this Offensive Tackle. We did spend a third rounder on RT. He hasn't worked out all that well yet, and needs some competition. We also need a better swing tackle option (maybe the current starter can be a very good backup....). Backup QB - Yeah sure, but maybe Georgia's Stetson Bennett in round 6 if he's the BPA. Here's where I differ: Backup OC: Morse has some injury issues, is older, and we need insurance there. I'd draft an interior O-lineman with versatility at GUARD and CENTER, as early as the second round. Safety: Although Hyde and Poyer are still playing at a high level, they are geriatric in football years (will they play a full season? Injuries are harder to overcome, and you DO start to slow down as you age). You don't wait until these old dudes fall apart before addressing the position. No disrespect. I LOVE both of Hyde and Poyer, but we have to be realistic and plan for the future. I'm drafting TWO safeties in this draft if it falls that way. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: So that’s the plan? This’ll be interesting for sure. Have we seen anything that would show he’s ready to assume that role? I’m game if you are! 👍 I’m “game” as well. Here’s the thing…we don’t need to have a top d to win a sb. Make the o unstoppable and keep the d around top 12-15 and it would be good enough. I’m sure they talked to bernard in his exit interview and asked him to bulk up. They spent a day 2 pick on him and it would be beyond silly to give up this early when we have huge needs on offense. 27 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I honestly have no idea. I’m just amazed that anyone is ready to put all the eggs in that one basket. It’s an offensive league. Does one middle LB move the needle that much? We have the best safety duo in the league coming back to pick up the pieces. 7 minutes ago, Yantha said: I've got a bit of a different take than the OP, but with some overlap. I'd say this teams biggest needs as of today are (no particular order): True #2 WR - I totally agree that we need to draft a WR in this draft, but it can't be forced over other needs that are more immediate, and concerning. I think that even if the board didn't "fall right" to select a WR, we would be okay. I have a good level of confidence that Davis will rebound. MLB: I think that Bobby Wagner might be asking for too much, and regardless, we would still need to draft the "heir apparent". I think that we have very little choice but to draft MLB in the first round. Easily the #1 need this draft. Dominant DT - Personally I'm looking for a depth player, with NOSE tackle capabilities. We are lacking in that area. Right Tackle - I'm just going to call this Offensive Tackle. We did spend a third rounder on RT. He hasn't worked out all that well yet, and needs some competition. We also need a better swing tackle option (maybe the current starter can be a very good backup....). Backup QB - Yeah sure, but maybe Georgia's Stetson Bennett in round 6 if he's the BPA. Here's where I differ: Backup OC: Morse has some injury issues, is older, and we need insurance there. I'd draft an interior O-lineman with versatility at GUARD and CENTER, as early as the second round. Safety: Although Hyde and Poyer are still playing at a high level, they are geriatric in football years (will they play a full season? Injuries are harder to overcome, and you DO start to slow down as you age). You don't wait until these old dudes fall apart before addressing the position. No disrespect. I LOVE both of Hyde and Poyer, but we have to be realistic and plan for the future. I'm drafting TWO safeties in this draft if it falls that way. “Very little choice”? Come on dude. I guess we can’t find a LBer in the mid rounds like they seem to do with offensive players, huh? Edited March 23, 2023 by whorlnut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, whorlnut said: I’m “game” as well. Here’s the thing…we don’t need to have a top d to win a sb. Make the o unstoppable and keep the d around top 12-15 and it would be good enough. I’m sure they talked to bernard in his exit interview and asked him to bulk up. They spent a day 2 pick on him and it would be beyond silly to give up this early when we have huge needs on offense. It’s an offensive league. Does one middle LB move the needle that much? We have the best safety duo in the league coming back to pick up the pieces. Thanks! I guess I’d agree with you if it was any other defensive position other than MLB. He’s literally the QB of your defense. It’s a really big gamble, and if I’m understanding you correctly you’re ready to roll those dice. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just not sure OBD is going to roll them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, nucci said: what if the season started today? At least the Aaron Rodgers trade drama would be over ... for this season anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 51 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: by "go after" do you mean pick at 27, or trade up? I'm fine at 27, would not trade up for them, because the cost is likely another pick that could be an OC, and an OT at 27. I don’t want them period. If one of them somehow fell to the 2nd round then I guess I’d do it. But absolutely not in the 1st round. I’m not a fan of any of them for our current needs. We need a #1. Not another small WR. They don’t fit what we need imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Not that I’m above being the grammar police, but in the OP’s defense I find that to be a frequent and frustrating autocorrect. You shut the he’ll up!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 If the draft were today, then I think Beane should focus on it and not on signing OL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floridagatorsbuffalobills Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 39 minutes ago, Yantha said: I've got a bit of a different take than the OP, but with some overlap. I'd say this teams biggest needs as of today are (no particular order): True #2 WR - I totally agree that we need to draft a WR in this draft, but it can't be forced over other needs that are more immediate, and concerning. I think that even if the board didn't "fall right" to select a WR, we would be okay. I have a good level of confidence that Davis will rebound. MLB: I think that Bobby Wagner might be asking for too much, and regardless, we would still need to draft the "heir apparent". I think that we have very little choice but to draft MLB in the first round. Easily the #1 need this draft. Dominant DT - Personally I'm looking for a depth player, with NOSE tackle capabilities. We are lacking in that area. Right Tackle - I'm just going to call this Offensive Tackle. We did spend a third rounder on RT. He hasn't worked out all that well yet, and needs some competition. We also need a better swing tackle option (maybe the current starter can be a very good backup....). Backup QB - Yeah sure, but maybe Georgia's Stetson Bennett in round 6 if he's the BPA. Here's where I differ: Backup OC: Morse has some injury issues, is older, and we need insurance there. I'd draft an interior O-lineman with versatility at GUARD and CENTER, as early as the second round. Safety: Although Hyde and Poyer are still playing at a high level, they are geriatric in football years (will they play a full season? Injuries are harder to overcome, and you DO start to slow down as you age). You don't wait until these old dudes fall apart before addressing the position. No disrespect. I LOVE both of Hyde and Poyer, but we have to be realistic and plan for the future. I'm drafting TWO safeties in this draft if it falls that way. Seeing how they are really focusing on the offensive line in FA, they may very well go OT early. They may have realized they have to protect Allen better and be able to run the ball and in doing so need to invest in their offensive line. I would not be mad at RT, then MLB in the 2nd and then BPA from there on out. There are some good WR's projected to go 3rd-4th rounds and some big boys in mid rounds for DT depth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, Floridagatorsbuffalobills said: Seeing how they are really focusing on the offensive line in FA, they may very well go OT early. They may have realized they have to protect Allen better and be able to run the ball and in doing so need to invest in their offensive line. I would not be mad at RT, then MLB in the 2nd and then BPA from there on out. There are some good WR's projected to go 3rd-4th rounds and some big boys in mid rounds for DT depth. The chiefs laid the blueprint on how to win in the modern nfl. They fixed their oline and the eagles, who had the third most sacks in the regular season in nfl history, couldn’t touch Mahomes in the sb. They didn’t go out and go heavy on d. They built around Mahomes. Offense is the way to go…not drafting to stop other teams offenses. Ask Philly how that worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floridagatorsbuffalobills Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, whorlnut said: The chiefs laid the blueprint on how to win in the modern nfl. They fixed their oline and the eagles, who had the third most sacks in the regular season in nfl history, couldn’t touch Mahomes in the sb. They didn’t go out and go heavy on d. They built around Mahomes. Offense is the way to go…not drafting to stop other teams offenses. Ask Philly how that worked. Agree 10000%. I said the same thing on one of the Bills pages on IG. I think they need to do everything possible to build an unstoppable offense and it starts at the offensive line. An elite QB like Allen does nothing when he's got pressure in his face all game long or running for his life. They need to bring in someone to compete with Brown at RT and add an elite talent at WR opposite of Diggs. A lot of rumors swirling about Hopkins, but if they are serious about winning the SB, they'd do SOMETHING. The other thing KC and Philly did last year was they traded draft picks for proven players. Philly traded for AJ Brown, KC traded for Toney and both were massive reasons why they 1) made it to the SB and 2) won the SB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, mrags said: I don’t want them period. If one of them somehow fell to the 2nd round then I guess I’d do it. But absolutely not in the 1st round. I’m not a fan of any of them for our current needs. We need a #1. Not another small WR. They don’t fit what we need imo. I’d be okay with Flowers in Round 1. I think he had No. 1 receiver potential, even at 5’10”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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