Desert Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 “Patriots create cap space by reworking retiring player's contract: The New England Patriots tacked a year onto Devin McCourty's contract at a minimum value ($1.165 million for 2023), according to ESPN's Field Yates. McCourty announced his retirement last week. According to Yates, this is a cap tactic that creates $5.035 million in 2023 cap space, while pushing $6.2 million in dead money to 2024, presuming the retirement is officially processed after June 1.” I still hate the Cheetriots, but I love the creative thinking that comes out of that org. Beane: take a note! 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) Is this really exceptional in any way? Beane knows about and uses void years quite a bit. Edited March 15, 2023 by Matt_In_NH 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Wait and they get a comp pick too?!!??!? 1 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) Yeah.. the model now is build your roster like the Pats. You know those awesome TE FA signings and quality drafting the past several years. Sorry not to be a wise guy but imho the Pats organizational brilliance headed down the road when Brady left. Notice how they don’t quite get every call anymore ? 🤷🏻♂️ Edited March 15, 2023 by QLBillsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, DJB said: Wait and they get a comp pick too?!!??!? Two. 🤨 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: Is this really exceptional in any way? Beane knows about and uses void years quite a bit. Yeah, but adding void years in retired players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 It would be working out great for them........ If they could actually convince any FA's to go there, or their own players to stay. I have a feeling that McCorkle isn't a guy that people are really wanting to go be in an offense with after his cheap shots and childish sideline tirades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Desert Bills Fan said: “Patriots create cap space by reworking retiring player's contract: The New England Patriots tacked a year onto Devin McCourty's contract at a minimum value ($1.165 million for 2023), according to ESPN's Field Yates. McCourty announced his retirement last week. According to Yates, this is a cap tactic that creates $5.035 million in 2023 cap space, while pushing $6.2 million in dead money to 2024, presuming the retirement is officially processed after June 1.” I still hate the Cheetriots, but I love the creative thinking that comes out of that org. Beane: take a note! Desert Bills Fan: Take note of the things Beane already does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Uh, so is Brandon Beane and every other team in the league... Also, why is it a bad thing when New England out-smarts others and does some clever trick to gain an advantage that is not clearly outside the law? That's not cheating, that's called being smart. Lots of Bills fans have never seemed to understand this. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, DJB said: Wait and they get a comp pick too?!!??!? If they do even a better reason to use this route to create cap space ! Who could the Bills get to do this Mica ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Desert Bills Fan said: “Patriots create cap space by reworking retiring player's contract: The New England Patriots tacked a year onto Devin McCourty's contract at a minimum value ($1.165 million for 2023), according to ESPN's Field Yates. McCourty announced his retirement last week. According to Yates, this is a cap tactic that creates $5.035 million in 2023 cap space, while pushing $6.2 million in dead money to 2024, presuming the retirement is officially processed after June 1.” I still hate the Cheetriots, but I love the creative thinking that comes out of that org. Beane: take a note! I'm sure other teams do it also when appropriate and needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Still prefer we have BBB ! just like to file away clever ideas for future use…. (Like maybe Von Miller in a couple years)… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Desert Bills Fan said: “Patriots create cap space by reworking retiring player's contract: The New England Patriots tacked a year onto Devin McCourty's contract at a minimum value ($1.165 million for 2023), according to ESPN's Field Yates. McCourty announced his retirement last week. According to Yates, this is a cap tactic that creates $5.035 million in 2023 cap space, while pushing $6.2 million in dead money to 2024, presuming the retirement is officially processed after June 1.” I still hate the Cheetriots, but I love the creative thinking that comes out of that org. Beane: take a note! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I'm also so impressed that they spent a fortune on two TE's and then didn't use them, then traded one of them away for a 7th round pick. Such impressive GM skills. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Desert Bills Fan said: Beane: take a note! Duly noted... Edited March 15, 2023 by WhoTom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 there is no salary cap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 BB started young… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I'm pretty much done giving a crap about any moves that the Patriots make at this point Without Brady, they've been exposed as being a totally mediocre organization Overall, they lack high end talent Their drafting and free agent signings don't come across as being overly strategic Their coaching is an inbred joke, despite having a genius at the head position They are soon to have the worst QB situation in the division And they haven't beaten the Bills in a non-hurricane situation since 2019 They might as well be the Jets at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Didn't Bills do the same thing with Eric Wood??? 6 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: Yeah, but adding void years in retired players? Its just manipulating the calendar and when you designate them pre or post June 1st. 6 hours ago, H2o said: It would be working out great for them........ If they could actually convince any FA's to go there, or their own players to stay. I have a feeling that McCorkle isn't a guy that people are really wanting to go be in an offense with after his cheap shots and childish sideline tirades. They just signed Juju away from KC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: They just signed Juju away from KC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, T master said: If they do even a better reason to use this route to create cap space ! Who could the Bills get to do this Mica ??? It's just your wording I have issue with. They're not "creating cap space." You can say, I guess, "creating cap space in the 2023 cap" or whatever year it's referring to. But cap space is not just alchemically being created. They're just moving cap space from one year to another. You can't really create cap space, except by cutting or trading away guys. Sorry. My detail-obsessed brain at work. I'm sure you already totally understand this, but when people say "He created cap space," others read it and think there really is a way to just mystically create space, like NFL cap guys are wizards or Maester Qyburn or something. Jaime: You're no maester. Where's your chain? Qyburn: The Citadel stripped me of it. They found some of my ... experiments ... too bold. Luckily, I found work with the Belichick family. (I added that last sentence.) Edited March 16, 2023 by Thurman#1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Desert Bills Fan said: “Patriots create cap space by reworking retiring player's contract: The New England Patriots tacked a year onto Devin McCourty's contract at a minimum value ($1.165 million for 2023), according to ESPN's Field Yates. McCourty announced his retirement last week. According to Yates, this is a cap tactic that creates $5.035 million in 2023 cap space, while pushing $6.2 million in dead money to 2024, presuming the retirement is officially processed after June 1.” I still hate the Cheetriots, but I love the creative thinking that comes out of that org. Beane: take a note! Is this a known and legit practice? If it sounds unusual - it wouldn't surprise me if the NFL office sends it back to them and says "you can't do that" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Is this a known and legit practice? If it sounds unusual - it wouldn't surprise me if the NFL office sends it back to them and says "you can't do that" I've never seen it, and I'd guess it's new. I bet they get away with it because though he has announced his retirement, he hasn't yet filed the official papers. Remember Eric Wood announcing his retirement and then trying to walk it back awkwardly because it worked out differently financially to have the Bills give him an injury settlement and release him before he retired? Edited March 16, 2023 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) I still have no idea how they got away with giving a crap load of money to Brady via his TB12 physical therapy company as their official team PT firm and never had to count that as compensation why they paid him way less than market value officially. Why don’t the Bills have Josh and Diggs form a company that does that and pay them half as much salary yet pay for their company’s services. Then Von can also own a food service company, since he is a chicken farmer and we can pay him a $5 million salary and just use his food company for the stadium and team. The Cheatriots did this with no impunity, why don’t we? Edited March 16, 2023 by Locomark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 I really don't care, just hurting themselves later to help themselves now, happens all the time. I think it should be illegal to manipulate contracts of retired players like that, but it's not illegal now so whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 20 hours ago, Desert Bills Fan said: “Patriots create cap space by reworking retiring player's contract: The New England Patriots tacked a year onto Devin McCourty's contract at a minimum value ($1.165 million for 2023), according to ESPN's Field Yates. McCourty announced his retirement last week. According to Yates, this is a cap tactic that creates $5.035 million in 2023 cap space, while pushing $6.2 million in dead money to 2024, presuming the retirement is officially processed after June 1.” I still hate the Cheetriots, but I love the creative thinking that comes out of that org. Beane: take a note! They are genius! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 Still prefer we have BBB ! The Pats are not genius across the board (bad drafting and intentionally breaking rules) But they leave no stone unturned on clever ideas. like Locomark mentioned: hiring Brady’s Co for team Physical Therapists….and Brady taking team friendly deal…. just like to file away clever ideas for future use…. (Like maybe Allen Family farms being Bills training camp food provider, or when Von Miller “retires” to become front office exec in a couple years)… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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