JakeFrommStateFarm Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Edmunds replacement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Martin was a good signing. He did a nice job for the Bills. I am also good with reworking Hynes’ deal. He can help this team. I don’t understand the Matakevich deal. He is a really good ST player. It feels like a poor use of resources to sign a vet ST coverage player. You signed Neal last year for that and Taiwan Jones probably comes back as well. If those guys can’t play on offense or defense you should get someone cheaper to fill those roles. my dude, we have been signing vet ST coverage players for the entire McBeane tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Now Beane can move onto Taiwan and Sweeney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, FireChans said: Go ahead and prove me wrong. Feel like I follow the league enough to know that most teams aren't spending $7M on Matakevich or ~2M on Taiwan or $3M on Siran Neal. Geroge Odum 3 years 9.5 million with the 49ers Oren Burks, 2 years 5 million with the 49ers That was just going against 1 team, but you are probably right saying most teams aren't doing this. Edited March 13, 2023 by BillsFan2313 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I hated the OP as soon as I read the title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Airseven said: Now Beane can move onto Taiwan and Sweeney. Ugh, not a fan of either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 38 minutes ago, Rigotz said: I feel like Sam Martin deserves a separate post compared to the Debbie Downer Matakevich extension. Sam Martin was the best Punter we've had on the team in a long time. VERY happy he's back. Agree, am haoppy Martin was re-signed I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone is gonna beef if you create a thread for it, especially once the terms are known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Are people really upset about this? He’s their special teams captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, ngbills said: Punters are a dime a dozen. And I don’t think he was good. If we are winning a punter doesn’t matter. The O needs resources not special teams. I thought he was very good. This puts him about 12th in average salary per year Player Total Salary Avg./Year Michael Dickson$14,699,059$3,674,765 Jack Fox$14,960,000$3,516,250 Tress Way$13,250,000$3,312,500 Logan Cooke$12,000,000$3,000,000 A.J. Cole$12,000,000$3,000,000 Bryan Anger$9,000,000$3,000,000 Rigoberto Sanchez$11,600,000$2,900,000 Mitch Wishnowsky$11,200,000$2,800,000 Cameron Johnston$8,000,000$2,666,667 Tommy Townsend$2,627,000$2,627,000 Johnny Hekker$7,620,000$2,540,000 Pat O'Donnell$4,000,000$2,000,000 Corey Bojorquez$3,380,000$1,690,000 Andy Lee$1,500,000$1,500,000 Bradley Pinion$1,500,000$1,500,000 Sam Martin$1,272,500$1,272,500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SCBills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: my dude, we have been signing vet ST coverage players for the entire McBeane tenure. We all know this.. And until this team figures out how to get past Mahomes/Burrow in the Playoffs, questioning decisions is only going to get more and more valid. Get past them and go ahead.. sign all the Siran Neal, Tyler Matakevich's you want. Pay a punter. Pay Bass. Whatever. Until then, people will question some of these roster decisions... and justifiably so. I just hope there are corresponding moves made because we are paying way too much, currently, for bit players like Hines, McKenzie, Neal, Martin, Gillam etc. Not a ton individually, but it begins to add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 yr deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I don't mind signing special teams players but they need to offer additional roster flexibility by at least playing one or more roles on offense/defense as a backup player at a minimum. I rather take risk on younger cheaper players you can develop and take the hit on special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: I don't know for every team, but I know for a few that I follow and they don't commit those resources to special teams the Bills do. And we are also tight to the cap, so there is also that.. Miami and KC are two teams I know a lot about and they don’t invest a ton in special teams. They use rookies/cheap vets to fill those slots and aren’t “designated special team players” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 34 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: What a quality and informative thread OP. *said no one ever* On a scale of 1 to CJ Spiller, how mad are u rn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/special/ The Bills ranked 28th last year in paying their kicker, punter and log snapper, spending $2.1 million total against the cap. KC was 2nd, spending 9 million against the cap. Seems like the Bills use that money they save on kicker, punter, and long snapper for a couple special teams aces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Was hoping we'd bring back Araiza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, BillsFan2313 said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/special/ The Bills ranked 28th last year in paying their kicker, punter and log snapper, spending $2.1 million total against the cap. KC was 2nd, spending 9 million against the cap. Seems like the Bills use that money they save on kicker, punter, and long snapper for a couple special teams aces. No. They don't. Bass is just on a rookie deal, and Martin was on the street when we signed him. We were signing the Taiwans' of the world when we were paying Haushcka. Our ST hit will skyrocket when Bass hits FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: And yet they do the same ***** every off-season. I'm willing to let FA play out, but I honestly did not think we would bring back Matakevich and pay Sam Martin and keep Nyheim Hines. The corresponding moves should be cutting McKenzie and Neal. Enough with this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, FireChans said: No. They don't. Bass is just on a rookie deal, and Martin was on the street when we signed him. We were signing the Taiwans' of the world when we were paying Haushcka. Our ST hit will skyrocket when Bass hits FA. Cool, let me know when that happens, because they will still be ranked in the 20's for 2023. Sam Martin made 1.2 million "off the streets" Edited March 13, 2023 by BillsFan2313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Pretty impressive that this guy has churned out an 8 year NFL career. He must be doing something right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 34 minutes ago, FireChans said: my dude, we have been signing vet ST coverage players for the entire McBeane tenure. Oh, I’m not surprised. It’s just not how I would have allocated resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFan2313 said: Cool, let me know when that happens, because they will still be ranked in the 20's for 2023. Sam Martin made 1.2 million "off the streets" Exactly lmao. That's nothing. He just got 3 for $7.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 jealousy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Exactly lmao. That's nothing. He just got 3 for $7.5 LOL. You acted like we got him for the vet minum. With his new contract, they will still be ranked in the 20's. Also, he got 4 million guarenteed, don't act like you believe he will be here to see the full 7.5 million lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, FireChans said: was hoping your thread was about Matakevich & you didn't disappoint! Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said: LOL. You acted like we got him for the vet minum. With his new contract, they will still be ranked in the 20's. Also, he got 4 million guarenteed, don't act like you believe he will be here to see the full 7.5 million lol. ??? He got 1 year for 1.2M. That's less than Siran Neal money lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Well, I knew that there was a good chance they would re-sign Martin. Sounds like the money is fair for him. I will hold off until I see the contract on Dirty Red. I don't mind the signing IF that means a couple of the other "ST only" guys do not make the final roster. I believe that Siran Neal does not make the final 53. He probably will go to camp and get cut when they are sure the new S takes his place. Time to move on from Taiwan Jones too. No more Kumerow types for ST too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Oh, I’m not surprised. It’s just not how I would have allocated resources. FC for czar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 hours ago, MWK said: Can't wait to see the terms. 4 Million again? If anyone calls him LB depth they have lost their minds. He played well when given opportunity including an interception. Maybe with losses he will get a chance but Debbie Downers will never give him a chance. 34 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Well, I knew that there was a good chance they would re-sign Martin. Sounds like the money is fair for him. I will hold off until I see the contract on Dirty Red. I don't mind the signing IF that means a couple of the other "ST only" guys do not make the final roster. I believe that Siran Neal does not make the final 53. He probably will go to camp and get cut when they are sure the new S takes his place. Time to move on from Taiwan Jones too. No more Kumerow types for ST too. Kumerow was a good WR resource being best blocking WR we had. Like Robert Woods he got no credit from fans on his blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Kumerow was a good WR resource being best blocking WR we had. Like Robert Woods he got no credit from fans on his blocking. I'm sorry but I don't agree. I really liked Woods and leaving "blocking" out of a WR duties, Kumerow couldn't hold a candle to Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Can I be the first to say during this free agency season... BeAnE iS aSLeeP aT tHe wHeEL!! A punter and a backup LB?! What's this world coming to?! Where's my overpriced big name signing?! Rrraaaaggggeeeee!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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