GolfandBills Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: He'll be used as a big slot receiver and probably have 900 receiving and 10 TDs for them Probably not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Bills have had a top offense for like the last few years. And Mahomes just won with an offense where only Kelce scares you. I’d rather Allen have a top 3 OL in the league, along with Kelce, MVS, Juju, Toney, Moore etc., over what we gave him last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: possibly the greatest wrestler in american history of all time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 46 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Gesicki to the Patriots on a 1 year deal up to $9 mil Mariota to the Eagles on a 1 year $5mil up to $8mil How many RBs are the Patriots going to have?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 39 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Pacheco, Juju, McKinnon, Hardman, Moore, their TE 2-4 are all pretty good weapons It's mainly that Mahomes is constantly throwing short passes, especially to his RBs. That accounts for majority of his completions per game It has pissed me off for years that our O rarely does this. Rarely any screens or just nice easy completions, Allen is too blame too but it seems it's way more the scheme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, Gregg said: Nobody will ever call the Chiefs defense great, but they play well enough to win games in the playoffs. Can we say the same about the Bills defense in the playoffs. They aren't a soft defense like the Bills defense. I've said this before. The Bills D is a consistent performer but short on big plays. Chiefs D is pretty much the opposite, but get big plays in big moments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 54 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Gesicki to the Patriots on a 1 year deal up to $9 mil Mariota to the Eagles on a 1 year $5mil up to $8mil I don't like Gesicki going to the Pats... He's always given us fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: I don't like Gesicki going to the Pats... He's always given us fits. Not worried one bit. Mac Jones is garbage 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: I don't like Gesicki going to the Pats... He's always given us fits. Lol, he's literally one of the last players is be worried about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: I don't like Gesicki going to the Pats... He's always given us fits. Yeah i know the guy has flaws in his game (doesnt like to/can't block) but is a legit receiving threat. I guess for the moment we're lucky that he has MacCorkle as a QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 34 minutes ago, Gregg said: Nobody will ever call the Chiefs defense great, but they play well enough to win games in the playoffs. Can we say the same about the Bills defense in the playoffs. They aren't a soft defense like the Bills defense. Having the 2nd best interior DL in Chris Jones and elite edge in Clark certainly helped. The D with Von was awesome. He frees up everybody on the DL. He'll have a massive impact on the d come playoff time. Hope Groot takes the next step in his game, will make QBs lives miserable if we get a consistent pass rush with an elite secondary behind them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, dorquemada said: I've said this before. The Bills D is a consistent performer but short on big plays. Chiefs D is pretty much the opposite, but get big plays in big moments The Eagles have one of the best OL's in football. The Chiefs D held their own at the LOS. I don't think the Bills defense would have done the same. The Eagles probably run the ball down the Bills throats. While the Chiefs are known for their offense it's their defense that plays well enough to where they have 2 Lombardi trophies. The Bills defense usually chokes in big spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: Not worried one bit. Mac Jones is garbage I agree about Sack Jones, but I still don't like them having weapons that can catch his errant, wounded ducks. 4 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Lol, he's literally one of the last players is be worried about Well, there are others I'd be more worried about, sure; I just want the Pats to be the Drought Era Bills for 17+ years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gregg said: The Eagles have one of the best OL's in football. The Chiefs D held their own at the LOS. I don't think the Bills defense would have done the same. The Eagles probably run the ball down the Bills throats. While the Chiefs are known for their offense it's their defense that plays well enough to where they have 2 Lombardi trophies. The Bills defense usually chokes in big spots. I think the other thing is,Spagnola is a game day coach. He adjusts his D whereas it always seems like the Bills go in with an idea and never adjust. IT SAYS RIGHT HERE THAT PLAYING SOFT ZONE 15 YARDS OFF THE LOS IS THE WAY TO BEAT THE BENGALS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, dorquemada said: I think the other thing is,Spagnola is a game day coach. He adjusts his D whereas it always seems like the Bills go in with an idea and never adjust. IT SAYS RIGHT HERE THAT PLAYING SOFT ZONE 15 YARDS OFF THE LOS IS THE WAY TO BEAT THE BENGALS Spags does a great job of keeping things exotic without losing the integrity of their system. We have been straight bend don't break. It's not enough. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, MrEpsYtown said: Spags does a great job of keeping things exotic without losing the integrity of their system. We have been straight bend don't break. It's not enough. Watching KC DL perform a stunt vs the Bills DL performing a stunt is an object lesson on doing a thing versus pretending to do a thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 9 hours ago, SCBills said: Bengals signed S Nick Scott, now closing in on a deal for Taylor Rapp. Basically Bates/Bell out .. Scott/Rapp in That’s amazing. They’re both backups imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Gregg said: The Eagles have one of the best OL's in football. The Chiefs D held their own at the LOS. I don't think the Bills defense would have done the same. The Eagles probably run the ball down the Bills throats. While the Chiefs are known for their offense it's their defense that plays well enough to where they have 2 Lombardi trophies. The Bills defense usually chokes in big spots. Coaching? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, ngbills said: Coaching? Speaking of which do we have a DC yet or will McDermott be HC/DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: That’s amazing. They’re both backups imo Rapp is a good player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, ngbills said: Rapp is a good player Yeah he’s pretty good…. I’m glad he’s not a starter for us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gregg said: Speaking of which do we have a DC yet or will McDermott be HC/DC. Beane said they won't be bringing in an outside guy and Jordan Poyer actually slipped and said "McDermott is still a really great defensive coordinator, errr, I mean defensive-minded head coach." McDermott is going to call the plays imo. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, dorquemada said: I've said this before. The Bills D is a consistent performer but short on big plays. Chiefs D is pretty much the opposite, but get big plays in big moments Basically the chiefs coaching staff/GM owns the bills and the rest of the league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, dorquemada said: I've said this before. The Bills D is a consistent performer but short on big plays. Chiefs D is pretty much the opposite, but get big plays in big moments Yes! And I’ve always blamed the players. Chris Jones and Frank Clark always step up their game in the playoffs. Frank Clark in particular may be a disappointment in the regular season but come playoffs he is dominating. We don’t have anyone on defense that steps up. Maybe Taron Johnson? That’s why they went and got Von. Edited March 17, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 14 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Yes! And I’ve always blamed the players. Chris Jones and Frank Clark always step up their game in the playoffs. Frank Clark in particular may be a disappointment in the regular season but come playoffs he is dominating. We don’t have anyone on defense that steps up. Maybe Taron Johnson? That’s why they went and got Von. I think having Micah out really hurt as well on the back end. But the pass rush is still the issue. Von alone can't be the only guy who can get to the QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Gesicki to the Patriots on a 1 year deal up to $9 mil Mariota to the Eagles on a 1 year $5mil up to $8mil I think Gesicki would have been a perfect fit in Denver with the way Payton uses TE's like him. Jimmy Graham type of numbers. 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: He'll be used as a big slot receiver and probably have 900 receiving and 10 TDs for them His QB is McCorkle....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think having Micah out really hurt as well on the back end. But the pass rush is still the issue. Von alone can't be the only guy who can get to the QB. Having Von on the field opens up opportunities for others though. Particularly Groot, who faces double teams when Von isn’t on the field. There are also other ways to get pressure, by being more aggressive with the blitz at key times. Not saying I wouldn’t be thrilled to add another pass rush threat, but we probably have bigger needs to fill. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 So we’ve got Von and Davis pulling for King Henry… No idea how they’d fit that under the cap… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: So we’ve got Von and Davis pulling for King Henry… No idea how they’d fit that under the cap… Trade would have to involve a player. If you can trade Oliver and a 3rd for Henry you basically lose nothing in cap space. Edited March 17, 2023 by thenorthremembers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, TOboy said: Having Von on the field opens up opportunities for others though. Particularly Groot, who faces double teams when Von isn’t on the field. There are also other ways to get pressure, by being more aggressive with the blitz at key times. Not saying I wouldn’t be thrilled to add another pass rush threat, but we probably have bigger needs to fill. We have bigger needs….but other than QB, there is no bigger need than pass rush. If von doesn’t come back the same or if someone else gets injured, we’re in trouble. Wouldn’t doubt it if Nolan Smith was our pick @ 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, TOboy said: Having Von on the field opens up opportunities for others though. Particularly Groot, who faces double teams when Von isn’t on the field. There are also other ways to get pressure, by being more aggressive with the blitz at key times. Not saying I wouldn’t be thrilled to add another pass rush threat, but we probably have bigger needs to fill. Frank Clark is available! Leonard Floyd as well. I think a veteran pass rusher will be added. They’ll also re-sign Jordan Phillips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, thenorthremembers said: Trade would have to involve a player. His cap hit is $10million. Which whipping boy do we have with such a number? Perhaps a certain equestrian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: So we’ve got Von and Davis pulling for King Henry… No idea how they’d fit that under the cap… 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: Trade would have to involve a player. No- renegotiate his contract and possibly restructure others 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Trade would have to involve a player. I would love to unload Ed but can't see Tennessee wanting him or his salary this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Frank Clark is available! Leonard Floyd as well. I think a veteran pass rusher will be added. They’ll also re-sign Jordan Phillips. I love Frank Clark. I always have. Floyd to me is a nickel player or more of a 3-4 edge. But he works as well. I think they draft an end somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: So we’ve got Von and Davis pulling for King Henry… No idea how they’d fit that under the cap… Do you mean Von and DaQuan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I love Frank Clark. I always have. Floyd to me is a nickel player or more of a 3-4 edge. But he works as well. I think they draft an end somewhere. The 2nd round?.................... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: No- renegotiate his contract and possibly restructure others I still don’t really see that happening due to his cost and the cost to get him, but it’s awesome when our players try to recruit guys. 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Do you mean Von and DaQuan? Whoops, yes I did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, H2o said: I think Gesicki would have been a perfect fit in Denver with the way Payton uses TE's like him. Jimmy Graham type of numbers. His QB is McCorkle....... I think that’s a good fit for Gesicki. I liked the idea of bringing him here, but Gesicki wins with his length and jumping ability. Touch passers like Fitz and Mccorkle are a better fit for him than Josh. Guys that throw it up there even when he doesn’t look open. Josh does better with guys like Diggs and Beasley who create a lot of separation and Josh uses his Howitzer to get the ball to them. Probably why the Bills preferred Harty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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