Coffeesforclosers Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: If this happened today Marv Levy would be fired on this board. If it happened today, Marv Levy would deserve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 9 hours ago, transient said: I suppose... I mean, if you somehow got Tommy Lee's hepatitis in the process. Motor-boating is a very safe activity. No exchange of bodily fluids. But so much fun with the right partner. That's why I, as a responsible poster, chose it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Looking at the play by play. Bills cut the lead to 14-10 with under 4 minutes left in the first half. But they would end up going into half time down 28-10. 2 turnovers, 2 TD passes to Irvin in my endzone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Here's what's kind of funny, and kind of sad: no one in the world was more tuned into Bills football than me in 1992/1993. And I can guarantee you I thoughtfully watched EVERY SECOND of that game. And yet just now I had no memory of that score, and no memory of 9 turnovers! When you say "Pasadena" I have negative thoughts and memories, vaguely, and that we got our butts kicked (again) but I don't remember those details! I think I have driven them out of my memory. I always said I would never watch the Super Bowl games again, and so far, I haven't. 11 hours ago, jkeerie said: And you brought this up why??? 11 hours ago, chongli said: "Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” -- Winston Churchill Hey Jkeerie, history is history. And it doesn't change. Even if you don't like it. 40 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: If it happened today, Marv Levy would deserve it. Marv is greatly over-estimated on this board, like most things Bills related! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Nightmare game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevens273 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I was in the stadium. They put big cards under our seats to hold up during Michael Jackson’s set. My section had all white cards. I had one of the three black ones to indicate an eye pupil. I was so p*ssed off I didn’t hold up my card. I’m sorry I messed up the entire show. I’ve been needing to get that off my chest. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Ahh, the memories. That year -- not dissimilar to this season in some ways -- I had a feeling the Bills were "destined" to win it all. Kelly's injury, a "down" regular season, but then the miraculous comeback against Houston and road wins in Pittsburgh and Miami -- I just knew it was going to be our year. That lasted about a quarter. For as bad as that final score is, I remember that Reich hit Beebe for a long TD right at the end of the 3rd quarter to make it a 31-17 game. That hope lasted for about two minutes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Highest scoring SB and we only provided 17 😬 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohboychoboy Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 And I was there..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Why did you have to bring this up? Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 13 hours ago, chongli said: "Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” -- Winston Churchill None of us had 9 turnovers. We don't need the painful reminders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Hey Jkeerie, history is history. And it doesn't change. Even if you don't like it. I know...but I'd just as soon expunge that game from my memory. It was such an embarassment and disaster! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, stevens273 said: I was in the stadium. They put big cards under our seats to hold up during Michael Jackson’s set. My section had all white cards. I had one of the three black ones to indicate an eye pupil. I was so p*ssed off I didn’t hold up my card. I’m sorry I messed up the entire show. I’ve been needing to get that off my chest. Remember the halftime show where scores of small children choreographed an impassioned rush to the stage while Jacko performed? If only the NFL knew then what we know now! I also remember being surrounded by filthy rich Cowboys fans, and at least one had a gold lame cowboy hat (we had really good seats through a stroke of luck). 1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Highest scoring SB and we only provided 17 😬 Should have been 59-24 -- Lett should have scored and James Lofton dropped the easiest of TD passes in last-minute garbage time. Edited February 1, 2023 by dave mcbride 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boco357 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I was there too and people there behind me bought tickets just for the MJ halftime show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, boco357 said: I was there too and people there behind me bought tickets just for the MJ halftime show. By the time the game was over, I guess we all did. 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 15 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: If this happened today Marv Levy would be fired on this board. and we'd all be screaming for Kelly to be traded and have Reich our starting QB 😐 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Budkin Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I wasn't able to watch this one because I was on a foreign exchange program in high school. When the game started we were at a hotel in Paris getting ready to sleep and one of the other students called their parents and they were hyped because the Bills had just scored and it was 7-0. We went to sleep with high hopes and when we woke up in the morning to check the score in the newspaper... 52-17. Yikes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budkin Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 8 hours ago, H2o said: The 4 SB's for me were 9th grade, 10th grade, 11th grade, and 12th grade. It taught me how to love my teams, but be able to detach emotionally and not let people get to me. A lesson learned due to the fact any given day 400 people could end up mouthing off to me about what happened. Do I still get frustrated by things at times and carry it in the moment, or a day or two after? Absolutely. But the people who say things can't really get under my skin. Hello from a fellow "Class of 1994" graduate. Back in those days I never let the outcome of a sporting event dictate my emotional state. I wish it would have stayed like that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Had a party at my place for that one, halfway thru the game I took all the food back and told everyone to GTFO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 NINE??? Even I don't remember! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 8:59 PM, chongli said: This game in 1993 in Pasadena also marked the Bills' third consecutive Super Bowl loss. Dallas scored 35 points off these nine turnovers. This game is tied with SB XXXVII between Oakland and Tampa Bay as the highest scoring Super Bowl, with 69 combined points. This was also the first time Buffalo had played Dallas since 1984. Michael Jackson performed at the halftime show, which was the NFL's first-ever top-act signing for the game. The only good thing about this game was Don Beebe's hustle to prevent Leon Lett from scoring a TD fumble recovery after Frank Reich was stripped. Tired of these bad memories. The Bills need to finally win one now that we have Josh. Leon Lett's fumble into the endzone: But you bring it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 26 minutes ago, AlfaBill said: But you bring it up? Yeah, because it was an important date in Bills history. You can't just filter out all the bad stuff, as much as I want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 11:14 PM, chongli said: "Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” -- Winston Churchill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, chongli said: Yeah, because it was an important date in Bills history. You can't just filter out all the bad stuff, as much as I want to. Ok, to make up for this, please run a highlight reel of our AFC Championship games. 😅 Also, as to SB XXVII, I remember it like it was yesterday—I was 14 and lived and died by the Bills’ results weekly. Watching the game at a buddy’s house who was a Steelers fan, things went downhill quickly. But man, the first few minutes were awesome what with the punt block, some decent passes from Kelly to Reed and the Bills cashing in early…I’ll stop my recollections there. 🙈 I’ll just get mad at Ken Norton Jr all over again—that was a cheap spear diving shot at Kelly’s knees and no one will ever convince me otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma Pecoraro Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 A blocked punt usually means a 90% chance of victory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 17-31 at start of 4th Qtr after a Reich to Beebe 40 yard TD. Bills had a 6+ minute drive to end the game. Leon Lett stripped short of end zone by Beebe. Could Beebe have been the MVP? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 46 minutes ago, Momma Pecoraro said: A blocked punt usually means a 90% chance of victory. I’d guess that 9 takeaways means a 100% chance of victory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, chongli said: Yeah, because it was an important date in Bills history. You can't just filter out all the bad stuff, as much as I want to. I was at that game , first SB I attended , then followed it up by goin to 28 in ATL the next year. Pasadena was great and the Rose Bowl is the most visually appealing venue I have ever been in. Highly recommended bucket list place ! As the sun goes down you have a view of palm tree and far off are mountains covered in sunshine as the lights come on in the stadium. The field is spectacular and immaculately maintained. I was sitting about 30 rows up, right on the goal line where Beebe made his famous play. Got a great view of the play and it was about the only positive ,other than Tasker partially blocking an early punt and being involved with the Michael Jackson halftime show. Everyone got a seat cushion with a regular sized flashlight embossed with the 27 SB logo. At one point in the halftime show we were asked to turn on the flashlights and visually helped light up the stadium during his performance. It was a bag of mixed emotions for me , as I was fortunate to be in a relationship with a really beautiful , smart nurse who went with me. She looked like a very young Hillary Clinton (facially , but had a smoking bod! ) , and on the plane ride out MEAN JOE GREEN was reading a time magazine on the plane and it had Hilary on the cover. He was sitting right behind us and he tapped my girlfriend on the shoulder , pointed to the cover , and asked for her autograph in a joking way. My gf didn’t know who he was , but I had grown up in Eastern Ohio where all my friends were Steelers fans , so I couldn’t believe what has just happened. I jokingly asked if we could just swap autographs and he laughed , kindly just went back to reading as I guess he didn’t want to attract attention to himself. True story. Before the game they had the early version of the NFL experience next to the Rose Bowl the day prior to the game. I got to bid on several NFL authenticated memorabilia at a silent auction. I actually got a Bills team signed football, a Bills team autographed helmet , and an autographed OJ Simpson jersey which was prior to his crimes. I also got and still have , two large uncut sheets of skybox cards printed on site and in limited edition numbered there. Those sheets have almost all the Bills & Cowboys on them , in addition to rookies like john Fina and many guys who turned into HOF guys or star players. I watch Finas YouTube podcast with Joe miller, and Fina has said he never held onto much gear or memorabilia , and since I’ve held onto these uncut sheets ( pristine condition) , I was thinking of contacting him or anyone interested as I am having health issues and would love to see them go to someone who might appreciate them before sometime happens and I’m not around to see where they go. If interested , email me at r.prokes@icloud.com ( tried posting pics on here of the sheets of cards but files were too large). Was just neat stuff; unfortunately it was so negated by the Bllls getting destroyed in that game. I flew there from Florida , so it was a long way to go to watch that throttling! On the flight home I actually met the parents of the cowboys third wr /kr at the time as they were flying to Jacksonville where they lived. They had on Cowboys locker room gear ( shirts w the score and other stuff that you couldn’t purchase that quickly as I flew out early the following morning , their last name was Martin if I remember corrrectly ) and they ended up becoming patients in my family practice at the time. They were great people , very kind about joining my practice even tho it was obvious I was a Bills fan ! So thx for posting as I see you got a lot of criticism for posting about that game. While it was a terrible game, everything else about the experience was amazing for me and unforgettable for all those good things that happened. 😊 One side note; the Bills players of that time have said after the 2 nd SB loss, they were always waiting for something bad to happen in subsequent SB’s. Thurman has said that often , so for example , when he fumbled it would take him out of the game and they just expected bad things to happen so they didn’t mentally think they could win a SB and of course , they never did. I am getting that “ mentality” or feeling after listening to Mcd and seeing how he has not coached well in the postseason. ( listen to florio critique Mcd , which is the first real critique saying perhaps Mcd is not going to win a SB with the bills that I felt had some validity, as I like Mcd but don’t feel confident in Frazier). The losses in postseason have been mistake prone, or just being outcoached in many opinions, and the team all quickly fell into rationalizing how only 1 team ends happy, yada, yada, yada. Hate to say it , just a feeling , but it reminds me of issues like around the 90’s teams; they are coaching / playing almost expecting something bad to happen. They seemed mentally beaten imo prior to that cincy game , for a variety of reasons , but I’m beginning to wonder if they can overcome all the bad losses they have had in the playoffs. At least those 90’s teams got to the SB , and didn’t take steps back once getting to the afc championship game. I’m not sure Mcd , while being a great reg season coach , is not starting to develop a trend of over thinking things and becomes error prone come playoff time. Time will tell, but it’s starting to remind me a little of that 90’s mentality; some coaching staffs rise to the pressure , as the Eagles , KC, and even Cincy have all made it there , while this year it feels like the Bills might even be headed the other way. Hard not to notice it having lived thru the 90’s SB losses. Anybody else notice any similarities? Thx tho for jogging my good memories about SB 27 in Pasadena. 😊 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 11:32 PM, Coffeesforclosers said: The actual worst loss in Bills history. I can think of one that hurts more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, DrPJax said: I was at that game , first SB I attended , then followed it up by goin to 28 in ATL the next year. Pasadena was great and the Rose Bowl is the most visually appealing venue I have ever been in. Highly recommended bucket list place ! As the sun goes down you have a view of palm tree and far off are mountains covered in sunshine as the lights come on in the stadium. The field is spectacular and immaculately maintained. I was sitting about 30 rows up, right on the goal line where Beebe made his famous play. Got a great view of the play and it was about the only positive ,other than Tasker partially blocking an early punt and being involved with the Michael Jackson halftime show. Everyone got a seat cushion with a regular sized flashlight embossed with the 27 SB logo. At one point in the halftime show we were asked to turn on the flashlights and visually helped light up the stadium during his performance. It was a bag of mixed emotions for me , as I was fortunate to be in a relationship with a really beautiful , smart nurse who went with me. She looked like a very young Hillary Clinton (facially , but had a smoking bod! ) , and on the plane ride out MEAN JOE GREEN was reading a time magazine on the plane and it had Hilary on the cover. He was sitting right behind us and he tapped my girlfriend on the shoulder , pointed to the cover , and asked for her autograph in a joking way. My gf didn’t know who he was , but I had grown up in Eastern Ohio where all my friends were Steelers fans , so I couldn’t believe what has just happened. I jokingly asked if we could just swap autographs and he laughed , kindly just went back to reading as I guess he didn’t want to attract attention to himself. True story. Before the game they had the early version of the NFL experience next to the Rose Bowl the day prior to the game. I got to bid on several NFL authenticated memorabilia at a silent auction. I actually got a Bills team signed football, a Bills team autographed helmet , and an autographed OJ Simpson jersey which was prior to his crimes. I also got and still have , two large uncut sheets of skybox cards printed on site and in limited edition numbered there. Those sheets have almost all the Bills & Cowboys on them , in addition to rookies like john Fina and many guys who turned into HOF guys or star players. I watch Finas YouTube podcast with Joe miller, and Fina has said he never held onto much gear or memorabilia , and since I’ve held onto these uncut sheets ( pristine condition) , I was thinking of contacting him or anyone interested as I am having health issues and would love to see them go to someone who might appreciate them before sometime happens and I’m not around to see where they go. If interested , email me at r.prokes@icloud.com ( tried posting pics on here of the sheets of cards but files were too large). Was just neat stuff; unfortunately it was so negated by the Bllls getting destroyed in that game. I flew there from Florida , so it was a long way to go to watch that throttling! On the flight home I actually met the parents of the cowboys third wr /kr at the time as they were flying to Jacksonville where they lived. They had on Cowboys locker room gear ( shirts w the score and other stuff that you couldn’t purchase that quickly as I flew out early the following morning , their last name was Martin if I remember corrrectly ) and they ended up becoming patients in my family practice at the time. They were great people , very kind about joining my practice even tho it was obvious I was a Bills fan ! So thx for posting as I see you got a lot of criticism for posting about that game. While it was a terrible game, everything else about the experience was amazing for me and unforgettable for all those good things that happened. 😊 One side note; the Bills players of that time have said after the 2 nd SB loss, they were always waiting for something bad to happen in subsequent SB’s. Thurman has said that often , so for example , when he fumbled it would take him out of the game and they just expected bad things to happen so they didn’t mentally think they could win a SB and of course , they never did. I am getting that “ mentality” or feeling after listening to Mcd and seeing how he has not coached well in the postseason. ( listen to florio critique Mcd , which is the first real critique saying perhaps Mcd is not going to win a SB with the bills that I felt had some validity, as I like Mcd but don’t feel confident in Frazier). The losses in postseason have been mistake prone, or just being outcoached in many opinions, and the team all quickly fell into rationalizing how only 1 team ends happy, yada, yada, yada. Hate to say it , just a feeling , but it reminds me of issues like around the 90’s teams; they are coaching / playing almost expecting something bad to happen. They seemed mentally beaten imo prior to that cincy game , for a variety of reasons , but I’m beginning to wonder if they can overcome all the bad losses they have had in the playoffs. At least those 90’s teams got to the SB , and didn’t take steps back once getting to the afc championship game. I’m not sure Mcd , while being a great reg season coach , is not starting to develop a trend of over thinking things and becomes error prone come playoff time. Time will tell, but it’s starting to remind me a little of that 90’s mentality; some coaching staffs rise to the pressure , as the Eagles , KC, and even Cincy have all made it there , while this year it feels like the Bills might even be headed the other way. Hard not to notice it having lived thru the 90’s SB losses. Anybody else notice any similarities? Thx tho for jogging my good memories about SB 27 in Pasadena. 😊 Wow...thank you for this great post outlining your experiences in the SB! I can tell you put a lot of thought into it. Also, I am sorry for your health issues. I hope it works out for you. [Many people here really want the Bills to finally win one before...well...you know.] You have great memorabilia. I never even knew SkyBox printed cards live! You are very kind to offer them. And I wonder how much that OJ jersey is worth now, given his crimes. He was really popular, along with Paul McGuire, back in those days, being on NBC. Both were Bills homers, and I loved it. And Hillary's look back in those days was popular. Later, the first name "Hillary" fell out of popularity for baby names though, as did "Monica". As for Pasadena, yes, it is beautiful. I only passed though there once while traveling, but it was gorgeous. Edited February 2, 2023 by chongli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, NUT said: Good thread. Keep Bills fans humble, and hopefully questioning current leadership. we haven't won anything...what do we need to keep humble about...unless this is sarcasm then I apologize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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