NFL grants YouTube TV exclusive NFL Sunday Ticket rights in the US starting in 2023(deal worth $2B+)

[stevewin]

3 minutes ago, nucci said:

this is just for youtube TV subscription, not Sunday Ticket

Right - the part I was confused about is if the Youtube Primetime is free

 

I just want to get ST w/o having to sign up to another streaming service

Edited April 11, 2023 by stevewin

[nucci]

9 minutes ago, stevewin said:

Right - the part I was confused about is if the Youtube Primetime is free

 

I just want to get ST w/o having to sign up to another streaming service

I think $11.99 month

[The Avenger]

Ugh - I would ditch DTV and go to YouTube but they don't have some of the channels I watch all the time - History, A&E, Vice - I'd really have to think if it is worth being without those to go to YouTube TV....

 

I'll still get Sunday Ticket and my plan was to get rid of the dish at some point - YouTube TV seemed like a no brainer until I saw it was missing those channels...

[nucci]

4 minutes ago, The Avenger said:

Ugh - I would ditch DTV and go to YouTube but they don't have some of the channels I watch all the time - History, A&E, Vice - I'd really have to think if it is worth being without those to go to YouTube TV....

 

I'll still get Sunday Ticket and my plan was to get rid of the dish at some point - YouTube TV seemed like a no brainer until I saw it was missing those channels...

I dropped directv and miss those channels too but it's still better and much cheaper. No genie or dvr , cables...nice clean setup. I'm happy with the switch

[MrEpsYtown]

26 minutes ago, The Avenger said:

Ugh - I would ditch DTV and go to YouTube but they don't have some of the channels I watch all the time - History, A&E, Vice - I'd really have to think if it is worth being without those to go to YouTube TV....

 

I'll still get Sunday Ticket and my plan was to get rid of the dish at some point - YouTube TV seemed like a no brainer until I saw it was missing those channels...

 

20 minutes ago, nucci said:

I dropped directv and miss those channels too but it's still better and much cheaper. No genie or dvr , cables...nice clean setup. I'm happy with the switch

 

How is the navigation? Maybe I am a dinosaur but I had some issues figuring out youtube tv. 

[nucci]

1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

 

How is the navigation? Maybe I am a dinosaur but I had some issues figuring out youtube tv. 

took a few times. New guide and pretty easy now. DVR is great

Edited April 11, 2023 by nucci

[Seventeen]

1 hour ago, Billz4ever said:

Regular season spans 5 months now, so basically $50/month.

 

Very reasonable IMO.

 

Agreed - just bought mine for $249. 

[ddaryl]

2 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

that’s true. but in my case inevitably there’s going to be one game every week that’s outside my market of another team that I wanna tune in to at least for half the game. 

If you like to watch other teams play then there just is no other deal to be had, and its a reasonable amount to pay.


I'm out of state and have been since 1997, Sunday Ticket has been a lifeline for me, but the overall value does decrease considering the prime time games. But I gladly pay it because I view it as reasonable

[ddaryl]

1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

 

How is the navigation? Maybe I am a dinosaur but I had some issues figuring out youtube tv. 

 

 

me too but only because its new.

The Home page is quite nice. Took me awhile to figure it out and get comfortable but everything that is available to you is catagorized, which IMO beats endless scrolling through the guide. You want to watch a comedy click the comedy filter and all you see are the comedy options, same for news, action Sitcoms etc.... Its really a nice feature,

 

Library section takes some time. For me I had a bunch of shows that I have already watched on my DirecTV section but they still showed up on my New section. I actually have to go to the PC or my tablet to open up my library (I use a PS5 and tagging stuff as watched I couldn't do here)  and tag what I had seen as watched. A bit of chore but not to bad, hoping they change that

Nice thing about the Library they already give you a list of all the seasons and episodes you may have missed in this section

Now older stuff becomes video on demand (VoD) and you will be forced to watch some commercials, but anything you set as you favorite will record DVR style so you can fast forward through commercials

 

Edited April 11, 2023 by ddaryl

[nucci]

9 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

me too but only because its new.

The Home page is quite nice. Took me awhile to figure it out and get comfortable but everything that is available to you is catagorized, which IMO beats endless scrolling through the guide. You want to watch a comedy click the comedy filter and all you see are the comedy options, same for news, action Sitcoms etc.... Its really a nice feature,

 

Library section takes some time. For me I had a bunch of shows that I have already watched on my DirecTV section but they still showed up on my New section. I actually have to go to the PC or my tablet to open up my library (I use a PS5 and tagging stuff as watched I couldn't do here)  and tag what I had seen as watched. A bit of chore but not to bad, hoping they change that

Nice thing about the Library they already give you a list of all the seasons and episodes you may have missed in this section

Now older stuff becomes video on demand (VoD) and you will be forced to watch some commercials, but anything you set as you favorite will record DVR style so you can fast forward through commercials

 

biggest adjustment for me after 20 years of directv is channels don't have numbers

[Virgil]

Does anyone know how the password sharing works?  Might not be so bad if my family can share it

[ddaryl]

1 minute ago, nucci said:

biggest adjustment for me after 20 years of directv is channels don't have numbers

 

I agree with that... UNTIL I found how to use the home page, the guide is so 1990's

[eball]

Just now, Virgil said:

Does anyone know how the password sharing works?  Might not be so bad if my family can share it

 

It's not even cheating...you can set up a "family account" and use your family member's email address.  They get their own "account" that completely shares whatever you have purchased.  I think you can share with up to five family members.  Now, how they confirm whether or not they are "family" I don't know, but I did this for my mom and she now has free TV piggybacking on my account.

 

[Virgil]

Just now, eball said:

 

It's not even cheating...you can set up a "family account" and use your family member's email address.  They get their own "account" that completely shares whatever you have purchased.  I think you can share with up to five family members.  Now, how they confirm whether or not they are "family" I don't know, but I did this for my mom and she now has free TV piggybacking on my account.

 

 

That is awesome.  Does it cost more?

[nucci]

1 minute ago, Virgil said:

 

That is awesome.  Does it cost more?

Nope

https://support.google.com/googleone/answer/7251139?hl=en-GB

Edited April 11, 2023 by nucci

[eball]

3 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

That is awesome.  Does it cost more?

 

Nope.  I was surprised as well.  It's true free sharing with your family.

 

Edit:  the only caveat is that the family member has to have an existing (free) google account.

 

 

Edited April 11, 2023 by eball

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

2 hours ago, nucci said:

took a few times. New guide and pretty easy now. DVR is great

 

So is there an easy way with the guide to see what's on TV say on Friday night??  I have You Tube mainly for sports channels and do plan to get ST.  But also have a TIVO with antenna for local network channels and their guide seems to be much easier to use than You Tube if I want to see what's on say 5 days from now.  Or am I missing something?

Do wonder as a You Tube subscriber will they be sending me an email about it to sign up?

 

Recall when MLB offered their one team only package, the difference between that and the full package was like maybe 10% cheaper, so little wasn't worth it.

[Virgil]

7 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

So is there an easy way with the guide to see what's on TV say on Friday night??  I have You Tube mainly for sports channels and do plan to get ST.  But also have a TIVO with antenna for local network channels and their guide seems to be much easier to use than You Tube if I want to see what's on say 5 days from now.  Or am I missing something?

Do wonder as a You Tube subscriber will they be sending me an email about it to sign up?

 

Recall when MLB offered their one team only package, the difference between that and the full package was like maybe 10% cheaper, so little wasn't worth it.

 

Is the DVR just like "ondemand" where I can access recent shows?  I'm wondering if this would replace things like Hulu, Paramount, or Peacock for me.  I would lose the online only shows, but meh

[nucci]

15 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

So is there an easy way with the guide to see what's on TV say on Friday night??  I have You Tube mainly for sports channels and do plan to get ST.  But also have a TIVO with antenna for local network channels and their guide seems to be much easier to use than You Tube if I want to see what's on say 5 days from now.  Or am I missing something?

Do wonder as a You Tube subscriber will they be sending me an email about it to sign up?

 

Recall when MLB offered their one team only package, the difference between that and the full package was like maybe 10% cheaper, so little wasn't worth it.

I don't know if you can pick a random day and see what is on. I can look at that

I did read where subscribers will be sent out notices starting today and for the next few days. I haven't received mine yet

10 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

Is the DVR just like "ondemand" where I can access recent shows?  I'm wondering if this would replace things like Hulu, Paramount, or Peacock for me.  I would lose the online only shows, but meh

the dvr is a little different. You choose shows to "add to your library". You can't record a single show, it records all seasons. I'm still learning it but it is unlimited so no worry about running out of space. Shows will delete after 9 months. I already have it set up to record all Bills games

[SRQ_BillsFan]

44 minutes ago, eball said:

 

It's not even cheating...you can set up a "family account" and use your family member's email address.  They get their own "account" that completely shares whatever you have purchased.  I think you can share with up to five family members.  Now, how they confirm whether or not they are "family" I don't know, but I did this for my mom and she now has free TV piggybacking on my account.

 

Careful. 
 

it does work like that but you are supposed to be a family at the same location. If you look in the Family Sharing link that was sent in the location section, it says…

 

“Location requirements work the same if you're sharing your YouTube TV membership with a family group. The family manager sets the home area, and all family members must primarily live in the same household.”

 

Right now I think you can have 5-6 but only 3 actively watching it. Not sure if they are going to allow multiple people watching Sunday Ticket at the same time? Assuming you’d tune in using the current YouTube TV app. 

Edited April 11, 2023 by SRQ_BillsFan

[billieve420]

Going to miss the days of buying NFL Sunday ticket accounts off Ebay for $20-30 lol. I hope they provide team specific option. $389 with Redzone might be a no go for me as I don't have Youtube TV and not looking to sign up.

[ddaryl]

1 hour ago, Virgil said:

 

Is the DVR just like "ondemand" where I can access recent shows?  I'm wondering if this would replace things like Hulu, Paramount, or Peacock for me.  I would lose the online only shows, but meh

 

1 hour ago, Virgil said:

 

Is the DVR just like "ondemand" where I can access recent shows?  I'm wondering if this would replace things like Hulu, Paramount, or Peacock for me.  I would lose the online only shows, but meh

 

 

 

It doesn't actually record older seasons, it will give you links to watch VoD for everything you add to your library, but it will categorize the newest unwatched episodes.

VoD will force you to watch some commercials and there is no FF thru them. but the newer shows you add to your library, that are recorded like a DVR, you will be able to fast forward thru commercials etc... just like a standard DVR

 

As for shows... what ever is available thru YoutubeTV should be available, but Hulu, paramont and Peacock originals that are stream only would still require a subsciption to those services

[SoMAn]

5 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Schedule comes out in May, right? Before June 6.

 

I'll wait to see how many prime time games we get again. I'd assume at least 3, if not 4 again. If thats the case, I may just save my money since between those games and the couple where the Bills end up the National game, I'm already getting half the Bills season on TV.

 

Couple that with bars being back full swing, and the Bills Backers Atlanta always being a fun time...

 

It may be that I end up having to pirate 2-3 games, and the rest I can catch normally and for free. I can deal with that.

Which location do you go to watch in Atlanta?  

I’ve had NFL Sunday ticket for 25 years and have negotiated the cost to $0 for the past 4 or 5 years, and don’t expect YouTube to negotiate. I doubt there are even actual people to talk to with YouTube. 
Even paying full price this year it’s still a bargain compared to an afternoon at one of the Atl Bills’ Backers locations.

I can’t imagine occupying a table for 4-5 hours and dropping less than $50-$75 with food, drinks, tax, and tip. 
Hell, I go to the Chick-Fil-A drive thru with my wife and it’s easily $17 for a couple ssndwiches, fries, and drinks. 

$300 for the ticket seems like a lot a first, but it’s actually pretty good value for the comfort of home. 
Just hope it’s not a case of getting you hooked and locked into their service and then increasing every year another $50. 

[WhoTom]

It's cheaper than subscribing to DirecTV and buying NFL-ST, but $350 is still pretty steep for non subscribers. I ditched DTV in 2018. For the past few years, I've used my son's university email address to get the streaming package for $99, which has been nice. He graduated last May, but they auto-renewed without verifying his address, so I got it again last season.

 

This year, I'll look at the schedule and see how many games I'd need it for. If there are just a few, then I might get the NFL+ package and watch recordings of those games after the fact.

 

On the other hand, I can afford it, so I might just bite the bullet and pay up.

 

 

[eball]

1 hour ago, SRQ_BillsFan said:

Careful. 
 

it does work like that but you are supposed to be a family at the same location. If you look in the Family Sharing link that was sent in the location section, it says…

 

“Location requirements work the same if you're sharing your YouTube TV membership with a family group. The family manager sets the home area, and all family members must primarily live in the same household.”

 

Right now I think you can have 5-6 but only 3 actively watching it. Not sure if they are going to allow multiple people watching Sunday Ticket at the same time? Assuming you’d tune in using the current YouTube TV app. 

 

Dammit!  You've ruined it for me.  Well, my mom lives "very close" to me so hopefully not an issue!

[Doc]

I hope they offer a student discount like DTV did.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, Virgil said:

 

Is the DVR just like "ondemand" where I can access recent shows?  I'm wondering if this would replace things like Hulu, Paramount, or Peacock for me.  I would lose the online only shows, but meh

 

You can select anything that is on any channel within You Tube, then choose to add it to your library and it will record every showing whether new or reruns.  But does list them in date shown so newest is to the top.  It has no limit to what you can record, somewhere after 6 to 9 months they get deleted.  Or you can choose to remove show from library and they are then all gone.

 

You get a choice of two showings, one kin d of "on demand" that includes commercials and second one on local network that you can fast forward thru commercials.  Why you'd use the "on demand" have no idea, unless you just love the commercials.

 

The main reason I got You Tube is I have two houses in two different states so only need to pay for one service and watch things in whichever location I'm at.  There are some limitations when not in home network, you often have to wait 24 hours to watch something you recorded. You can watch it live or wait a day.

 

Overall I like it, but guide is more pain if you want to see what's on TV 2 days from now.  Also not as smooth to fast forward or rewind as my TIVO only that you can't go to a specific second, everything is in 15 second increments.  Otherwise no big issues

1 hour ago, nucci said:

I don't know if you can pick a random day and see what is on. I can look at that

I did read where subscribers will be sent out notices starting today and for the next few days. I haven't received mine yet

the dvr is a little different. You choose shows to "add to your library". You can't record a single show, it records all seasons. I'm still learning it but it is unlimited so no worry about running out of space. Shows will delete after 9 months. I already have it set up to record all Bills games

 

OK thought maybe you already knew a way to do this. 

 

I do believe there are more options using the You Tube guide when logged in on computer than when watching through TV, little easier to do things.

[nucci]

7 minutes ago, Doc said:

I hope they offer a student discount like DTV did.

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/07a59b3c-74c0-47e8-8820-d2fb64b031e7

[DrDawkinstein]

23 minutes ago, SoMAn said:

Which location do you go to watch in Atlanta?  

I’ve had NFL Sunday ticket for 25 years and have negotiated the cost to $0 for the past 4 or 5 years, and don’t expect YouTube to negotiate. I doubt there are even actual people to talk to with YouTube. 
Even paying full price this year it’s still a bargain compared to an afternoon at one of the Atl Bills’ Backers locations.

I can’t imagine occupying a table for 4-5 hours and dropping less than $50-$75 with food, drinks, tax, and tip. 
Hell, I go to the Chick-Fil-A drive thru with my wife and it’s easily $17 for a couple ssndwiches, fries, and drinks. 

$300 for the ticket seems like a lot a first, but it’s actually pretty good value for the comfort of home. 
Just hope it’s not a case of getting you hooked and locked into their service and then increasing every year another $50. 

 

I'm a Whitehall guy, myself. Medlock is ok, but more a "family" atmosphere. We still bring our 4 year old to Whitehall tho. She was 3 when she attended last season's Ravens game at the bar and with the comeback win, fans jumping on tables, etc, she got as close to the hometown experience as she can down here.

 

Havent tried Standard yet. I know @Royale with Cheese is a fan. But I've heard there arent a lot of TVs, especially lacking on the patio.

 

You are correct about the cost. It definitely isnt a bad deal for the Sunday Ticket. Yes, I could pay for the entire season of Sunday Ticket with just 3 Whitehall trips. But it's more about hanging with the crew and other Bills fans.

[ColoradoBills]

So, it's $21 per week if you are not a YouTube subscriber and you do the early bird special

Of course, not counting National games.  I can live with that.

I just have to decide if I want to capture the savings going to YouTube TV and ditching Sling.

I got a month or so to make up my mind.

 

Does anyone know if you get a discount if you sign up for (YouTube TV and the NFL package) on YouTube Premium add free service?

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

I'll assume there won't be all the wheeling and dealing like what went on with DTV.  Would be kind of hard as not really anyone to talk to with YTTV

 

I wonder if there will always be a nearly bird sign up discount in future years.

[MrEpsYtown]

https://theathletic.com/4397301/2023/04/11/nfl-sunday-ticket-pricing-youtube/?amp=1
 

DirecTV reportedly had about two million Sunday Ticket subscribers. However, the company gave many subscriptions away for free to induce satellite signups. Oestlien said YouTube would not do so for YouTube TV.

 

That’s from YouTube’s VP of product management. 

[SRQ_BillsFan]

1 hour ago, eball said:

 

Dammit!  You've ruined it for me.  Well, my mom lives "very close" to me so hopefully not an issue!

you can still do it until they start going after people. But it’s not just a YouTube TV issue as we all know. 
 

My daughter in college uses my YouTube TV all the time. 
 

 

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

https://theathletic.com/4397301/2023/04/11/nfl-sunday-ticket-pricing-youtube/?amp=1
 

DirecTV reportedly had about two million Sunday Ticket subscribers. However, the company gave many subscriptions away for free to induce satellite signups. Oestlien said YouTube would not do so for YouTube TV.

 

That’s from YouTube’s VP of product management. 

 

No doubt they are paying a lot more for the rights.  Fans talking about the cap going way up............that wasn't coming at a viewer discount.

[Royale with Cheese]

2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I'm a Whitehall guy, myself. Medlock is ok, but more a "family" atmosphere. We still bring our 4 year old to Whitehall tho. She was 3 when she attended last season's Ravens game at the bar and with the comeback win, fans jumping on tables, etc, she got as close to the hometown experience as she can down here.

 

Havent tried Standard yet. I know @Royale with Cheese is a fan. But I've heard there arent a lot of TVs, especially lacking on the patio.

 

You are correct about the cost. It definitely isnt a bad deal for the Sunday Ticket. Yes, I could pay for the entire season of Sunday Ticket with just 3 Whitehall trips. But it's more about hanging with the crew and other Bills fans.

The Standard is pretty good but its just small.  
 

The energy at Whitehall is awesome.  Yes it costs more but I can watch the Bills and look at 25 year old fit blonde in a tight Josh Allen jersey.  Its bar porn.

[Virgil]

2 hours ago, eball said:

 

Dammit!  You've ruined it for me.  Well, my mom lives "very close" to me so hopefully not an issue!

 

In reading more online, it seems as though you need to login at the "home" location once every 3 months.  So, you might be able to bypass that by having your account logged in at the home location and having them use it once a month.

 

My concern right now is, I'm hearing they won't allow all 5 accounts to stream at once.  

[NoHuddleKelly12]

3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I'm a Whitehall guy, myself. Medlock is ok, but more a "family" atmosphere. We still bring our 4 year old to Whitehall tho. She was 3 when she attended last season's Ravens game at the bar and with the comeback win, fans jumping on tables, etc, she got as close to the hometown experience as she can down here.

 

Havent tried Standard yet. I know @Royale with Cheese is a fan. But I've heard there arent a lot of TVs, especially lacking on the patio.

 

You are correct about the cost. It definitely isnt a bad deal for the Sunday Ticket. Yes, I could pay for the entire season of Sunday Ticket with just 3 Whitehall trips. But it's more about hanging with the crew and other Bills fans.

1st round on me this year—if @Augieagrees to come out too of course! 

[Augie]

13 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

1st round on me this year—if @Augieagrees to come out too of course! 

 

Everything is negotiable! I’d like to host a game this year. We moved into a house designed to throw parties, but it’s mostly the two of us, and the occasional brave neighbor who isn’t offended by foul language. Bills fans INVENTED foul language! 

[newcam2012]

10 hours ago, ddaryl said:

Been a Sunday Ticket subscriber for over 20 years now... Never complained 

Me too and often got it free or at a reduced rate.

 

Still have DTV. With the discounts it's still a bit higher than YouTube TV. I must say their prices aren't cheap anymore. 

 

I might look into bootlegging the games. 

Edited April 12, 2023 by newcam2012

[Cheektowaga Chad]

At those prices I don't think it's worth it, I'm fine with the national games on cbs/fox plus red zone

 

I wish there was an option to purchase a single Sunday. I'd likely buy a couple Sundays if I'm having friends/family over