NFL grants YouTube TV exclusive NFL Sunday Ticket rights in the US starting in 2023(deal worth $2B+)

[eball]

2 minutes ago, Kiva said:

Not a fan of anything Google.  Will this still be available through the Sunday ticket app?

 

YouTube (Google) has exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket.  If there is a Sunday Ticket app outside of YouTube or YouTube TV, it will be their app.

 

What’s your beef with Google?

 

[Ned Flanders]

30 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

Is the delay actually You Tube or just due to internet streaming lag within each users one home?

Well, I've got Fios, 1GB down, 1GB up...so I don't think it's on my end.  Could be wrong, which is often the case, though.

[agilen]

2 minutes ago, Ned Flanders said:

Well, I've got Fios, 1GB down, 1GB up...so I don't think it's on my end.  Could be wrong, which is often the case, though.

Streaming delay is not related to your home internet in any meaningful way. It comes down to the streaming tech the provider uses, how delayed their initial feed is, and how they configure their streams.

 

See https://thestreamable.com/news/fox-sports-app-removed-nearly-entire-streaming-delay-vs-ota-for-super-bowl-lvii for some good comparisons. Fox Sports puts a ton of engineering into this; the aggregators (Fubo, YouTubeTV, etc) just let it play on their regular (read: lowest cost) linear streaming system, just like cable and OTA do.

[Punching Bag]

On 3/2/2023 at 8:54 AM, nucci said:

More stuff

 

https://cordcuttersnews.com/youtube-tvs-ceo-confirms-new-features-coming-this-fall-with-nfl-sunday-ticket/

 

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We have also learned that NFL Sunday Ticket will offer multiple packages allowing you to pick a cheaper more limited package if you want.

 

If they have a team package good but not if they have "featured games" package,

[Punching Bag]

15 minutes ago, eball said:

 

YouTube (Google) has exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket.  If there is a Sunday Ticket app outside of YouTube or YouTube TV, it will be their app.

 

What’s your beef with Google?

 

 

My beef with google is there is quite a bit of analysists being done and when it slows down it slows down all of the sites which call google to do it.

Work with some sites which usually have issues and when traced it is almost always a delay from loading google JS, CSS and other stuff.  When asked to prove it I told them to create identical pages without google stuff copying necessary CSS and JS not pointing to Google and the "Google Lite" pages have no issues while those pages using Google for services do not have performance issues.

[SoMAn]

FWIW- unlike many of you, I will miss the convenient features that came with DIRECTV. 
I could set recording for kickoff, run to the store for snacks, or anything else, and sit down to watch 45 minutes later, and skip through all the endless redundant ads for the networks stupid primetime shows and halftime happy talk.
I have issues with ads. Complete waste of time. 

As far as I know, streaming means you watch when they tell you to and there’s no skipping through ads. 
Am I correct or are there ways to time shift with streaming? Even if we can view later, are we limited with no fast-forward feature?
Furthermore, with DTV I could go back during the week and review the recorded game on my time without the distractions that sometimes accompany watching with other people while watching live. 
Right now, not thrilled with the prospect of streaming only. 
 

[Kevbeau]

We don’t have broadband internet (house too far back from road) so have to use a hotspot, which is an upgrade from the satellite internet we used to have. Without the ticket on Direct TV, think I might be hosed, as streaming is hit or miss at my place.

[BLeonard]

1 hour ago, eball said:

 

Yes, it’s like anything new.  But you can go online (laptop/desktop) and put the channels in your order of preference.  That was big for me.

 

Was gonna say this.  I had a few days overlap (intentionally) where I had started YouTube TV before canceling cable.  One of the first things I did, since I had had cable for so long at that point, was set the YouTube TV channel order in the same order as my cable channels (or as close as possible, anyway).  Transition has been pretty seamless since.

[nucci]

36 minutes ago, SoMAn said:

FWIW- unlike many of you, I will miss the convenient features that came with DIRECTV. 
I could set recording for kickoff, run to the store for snacks, or anything else, and sit down to watch 45 minutes later, and skip through all the endless redundant ads for the networks stupid primetime shows and halftime happy talk.
I have issues with ads. Complete waste of time. 

As far as I know, streaming means you watch when they tell you to and there’s no skipping through ads. 
Am I correct or are there ways to time shift with streaming? Even if we can view later, are we limited with no fast-forward feature?
Furthermore, with DTV I could go back during the week and review the recorded game on my time without the distractions that sometimes accompany watching with other people while watching live. 
Right now, not thrilled with the prospect of streaming only. 
 

you can do the same with youtube. Just set the game to record and start it when you want. Unlimited DVR and all recordings kept for 9 months. Watch anytime on your tv, phone, tablet, computer. It's easy to watch live tv anytime on all your devices. Much cheaper than directv also.

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, SoMAn said:

FWIW- unlike many of you, I will miss the convenient features that came with DIRECTV. 
I could set recording for kickoff, run to the store for snacks, or anything else, and sit down to watch 45 minutes later, and skip through all the endless redundant ads for the networks stupid primetime shows and halftime happy talk.
I have issues with ads. Complete waste of time. 

As far as I know, streaming means you watch when they tell you to and there’s no skipping through ads. 
Am I correct or are there ways to time shift with streaming? Even if we can view later, are we limited with no fast-forward feature?
Furthermore, with DTV I could go back during the week and review the recorded game on my time without the distractions that sometimes accompany watching with other people while watching live. 
Right now, not thrilled with the prospect of streaming only. 
 

YouTube TV has has unlimited DVR and you can pause, rewind, fast forward through commericals, etc..  There's no dropoff as long as your wifi is working fine.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Checking in on the boomers 

[NewEra]

YTTV is also going up another $8 per month starting April 18th.

 

I’m happy with it but I’ve been having  a lot of issues with the voice sync (I have a sound bar) after using the fast forward function.  Dunno if it’s my Firestick (which is only one generation old) or the app itself.  I see a lot of mixed responses on Reddit regarding what the problem is. Some say it’s the firestick, some say it’s the app. Some say the sound bar.  I just can’t recall it happening to me while using a different app.  
 

anyone have similar problems or know an easy fix?  I usually just restart my firestick while powering the tv off.  Big pain in the 

Edited March 19, 2023 by NewEra

[nucci]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

YTTV is also going up another $8 per month starting April 18th.

 

I’m happy with it but I’ve been having  a lot of issues with the voice sync (I have a sound bar) after using the fast forward function.  Dunno if it’s my Firestick (which is only one generation old) or the app itself.  I see a lot of mixed responses on Reddit regarding what the problem is. Some say it’s the firestick, some say it’s the app. Some say the sound bar.  I just can’t recall it happening to me while using a different app.  
 

anyone have similar problems or know an easy fix?  I usually just restart my firestick while powering the tv off.  Big pain in the 

I had it for a couple of days. it was annoying but it eventually stopped and no longer an issue for now. 

5 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Checking in on the boomers 

what do you need?

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, nucci said:

you can do the same with youtube. Just set the game to record and start it when you want. Unlimited DVR and all recordings kept for 9 months. Watch anytime on your tv, phone, tablet, computer. It's easy to watch live tv anytime on all your devices. Much cheaper than directv also.

I still have direct tv. It's too expensive. I can get YouTube tv for about 65% of what I'm paying for direct tv. Basically will get most of the channels I like. 

 

Only thing stopping me is the ease of using direct tv. I'm not tech savvy. It's it a pain or somewhat difficult to maneuver YouTube tv for challenged tech guys like myself? 

[nucci]

Just now, newcam2012 said:

I still have direct tv. It's too expensive. I can get YouTube tv for about 65% of what I'm paying for direct tv. Basically will get most of the channels I like. 

 

Only thing stopping me is the ease of using direct tv. I'm not tech savvy. It's it a pain or somewhat difficult to maneuver YouTube tv for challenged tech guys like myself? 

you'll be fine. Takes a little bit but you'll get used to it. I had 3 TVs with directv and with football and hockey and no discount my bill was over $200. Now even with price increase I have youtube Tv for $73 and disney bundle for $12.99.  I have more stuff to watch and saving a lot of money

[BBFL]

Does anyone know if the estimated $300 is a flat rate or if there is a discount for current YTV subscribers?

[nucci]

50 minutes ago, BBFL said:

Does anyone know if the estimated $300 is a flat rate or if there is a discount for current YTV subscribers?

I received an email recently saying there will be discounts for subscribers coming soon. I didn't read anything about $300

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Checking in on the boomers 

Sadly, I am a gen Xer, and am shouting at the TV, “where the heck is Tru TV?” 😁

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

I still have direct tv. It's too expensive. I can get YouTube tv for about 65% of what I'm paying for direct tv. Basically will get most of the channels I like. 

 

Only thing stopping me is the ease of using direct tv. I'm not tech savvy. It's it a pain or somewhat difficult to maneuver YouTube tv for challenged tech guys like myself? 

you may want to call DTV loyalty before you cancel. I almost “for real” canceled during Covid, and got some ridiculous deal for a year— $50/month (after fees and taxes), for about a year. (This time when I canceled, though, the best they could get me to was $90ish per month— well above YouTube or Hulu).

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Sadly, I am a gen Xer, and am shouting at the TV, “where the heck is Tru TV?” 😁

you may want to call DTV loyalty before you cancel. I almost “for real” canceled during Covid, and got some ridiculous deal for a year— $50/month (after fees and taxes), for about a year. (This time when I canceled, though, the best they could get me to was $90ish per month— well above YouTube or Hulu).

90 a month isn't too bad. YouTube with my package and increase with be around 65 to 75 a month. 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

2 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I still have direct tv. It's too expensive. I can get YouTube tv for about 65% of what I'm paying for direct tv. Basically will get most of the channels I like. 

 

Only thing stopping me is the ease of using direct tv. I'm not tech savvy. It's it a pain or somewhat difficult to maneuver YouTube tv for challenged tech guys like myself? 

If you can already maneuver through TBD, or manage the DTV remotes with all those crazy buttons, you’ll be just fine!  👍🏻

[97bills]

4 hours ago, Kevbeau said:

We don’t have broadband internet (house too far back from road) so have to use a hotspot, which is an upgrade from the satellite internet we used to have. Without the ticket on Direct TV, think I might be hosed, as streaming is hit or miss at my place.

This used to be my problem, because I live in the woods.. but the power companies in Mississippi are digging and putting in fiber optic everywhere. So I got mine hooked up a few months ago and I’m so happy, 75$ 1G no matter how much internet I use it doesn’t slow down like that satellite I had. I was biting my nails they would get that internet to me before Sunday ticket went to streaming lol.. but I am happy I’m not paying DTV 175$ a month anymore. 

[Kevbeau]

Our electricity provider is doing the same but earliest I’ll have it is spring of 2024

[Dr.Sack]

Comcast streamer here. I recommend going with YouTube TV if you want a streamer TV provider. 

[Rico]

4 hours ago, NewEra said:

YTTV is also going up another $8 per month starting April 18th.

 

I’m happy with it but I’ve been having  a lot of issues with the voice sync (I have a sound bar) after using the fast forward function.  Dunno if it’s my Firestick (which is only one generation old) or the app itself.  I see a lot of mixed responses on Reddit regarding what the problem is. Some say it’s the firestick, some say it’s the app. Some say the sound bar.  I just can’t recall it happening to me while using a different app.  
 

anyone have similar problems or know an easy fix?  I usually just restart my firestick while powering the tv off.  Big pain in the 

This happens maybe every 2 months or so with my Roku in the bedroom, also with soundbar… not just with YTTV, but other apps. I just turn the power strip off that feeds them for about 30 seconds, then everything’s OK again.

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, Rico said:

This happens maybe every 2 months or so with my Roku in the bedroom, also with soundbar… not just with YTTV, but other apps. I just turn the power strip off that feeds them for about 30 seconds, then everything’s OK again.

Isn’t technology supposed to get better?  This didn’t happen to me in 1983!

[djp14150]

10 hours ago, chongli said:

 

 

https://www.makeuseof.com/why-youtube-tv-is-more-expensive-what-it-costs/

 

 

YouTube TV launched in 2017 at $35 per month and it has increased its price four times since then. The cost is starting to rival traditional cable TV packages, but streaming services have fewer fees, don’t require clunky hardware and are easier to cancel."

 

this is why I laugh at cord cutters who think they are going to save money and get a deal.

 

thr cost of cable TV or  streaming online totprrey TV channels sre going to eventual cost the same. It becomes a matter of promotional deals and switching.

 

even in streaming, just like cable you don’t really have choices. You have to take blocks of stations, even if you only want one channel.

 

on cable, other than old school national network stations, I might regularly watch content on 10 non sports stations

[nucci]

5 hours ago, djp14150 said:

 

this is why I laugh at cord cutters who think they are going to save money and get a deal.

 

thr cost of cable TV or  streaming online totprrey TV channels sre going to eventual cost the same. It becomes a matter of promotional deals and switching.

 

even in streaming, just like cable you don’t really have choices. You have to take blocks of stations, even if you only want one channel.

 

on cable, other than old school national network stations, I might regularly watch content on 10 non sports stations

but until then I'll continue save $120 month switching from directv to youtube. 

[Xwnyer]

10 minutes ago, nucci said:

but until then I'll continue save $120 month switching from directv to youtube. 

I have spectrum included in my HOA fees still waiting to see how NFL will be offered 

[plenzmd1]

7 hours ago, djp14150 said:

 

this is why I laugh at cord cutters who think they are going to save money and get a deal.

 

thr cost of cable TV or  streaming online totprrey TV channels sre going to eventual cost the same. It becomes a matter of promotional deals and switching.

 

even in streaming, just like cable you don’t really have choices. You have to take blocks of stations, even if you only want one channel.

 

on cable, other than old school national network stations, I might regularly watch content on 10 non sports stations

Not even close, and never will be. I currently have 5 TVs in my house, and have 3 at a 2nd house. O don’t need a dish at each place and pay for two locations. I don’t need a box at each TV and pay $5 a month for each of those.  I don’t pay for “ whole house” networking, I don’t pay for insurance on the whole damn thing. I pay one monthly fee of now gunna be $76, for all of thise TVs and in two locations. 
 

 

[nucci]

2 hours ago, Xwnyer said:

I have spectrum included in my HOA fees still waiting to see how NFL will be offered 

it's already out on how it will be offered. You won't need youtube TV to get it

 

https://tv.youtube.com/learn/nflsundayticket/

[Ned Flanders]

2 hours ago, nucci said:

it's already out on how it will be offered. You won't need youtube TV to get it

 

https://tv.youtube.com/learn/nflsundayticket/

First I'm seeing that it will be available with or without Red Zone.

[nucci]

4 minutes ago, Ned Flanders said:

First I'm seeing that it will be available with or without Red Zone.

youtube TV offers red zone as part of a sports package add on. Not sure if they change this now that they have the ticket

[djp14150]

3 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

Not even close, and never will be. I currently have 5 TVs in my house, and have 3 at a 2nd house. O don’t need a dish at each place and pay for two locations. I don’t need a box at each TV and pay $5 a month for each of those.  I don’t pay for “ whole house” networking, I don’t pay for insurance on the whole damn thing. I pay one monthly fee of now gunna be $76, for all of thise TVs and in two locations. 
 

 

Check back in a few years when each device has a fee or they limit it to say just 3 devices. Any additional ones cost a fee.

 

thrn you need to add together your other fees for say espn+ or Disney+ and so on.

[NewEra]

10 hours ago, djp14150 said:

 

this is why I laugh at cord cutters who think they are going to save money and get a deal.

 

thr cost of cable TV or  streaming online totprrey TV channels sre going to eventual cost the same. It becomes a matter of promotional deals and switching.

 

even in streaming, just like cable you don’t really have choices. You have to take blocks of stations, even if you only want one channel.

 

on cable, other than old school national network stations, I might regularly watch content on 10 non sports stations

I have more channels, DVR space and pay less than I did with cable.  That may change with time…,.but until it does, I laugh at you. 

[Don Otreply]

On 12/22/2022 at 2:09 PM, Steptide said:

Personally, I watch YouTube videos more than regular TV. The $10 a month is well worth it for me.

I don’t pay for YouTube, it’s free, 

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

Check back in a few years when each device has a fee or they limit it to say just 3 devices. Any additional ones cost a fee.

 

thrn you need to add together your other fees for say espn+ or Disney+ and so on.

Check back in a few years…… that’s your advice to not cut the cord now?  You could be dead in a few years.  People are actually saving money now…. 
 

I’ve been using my brother in laws Hulu, Espn, Disney account for years.  Yes, that will probably change in the future, but by that time have already saved close to $1000 dollars.  But I shouldn’t take advantage of these loopholes while they exist…,because it’ll change in a few years?  🤣 

 

people are laughing at you for this thought process.

2 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

I don’t pay for YouTube, it’s free, 

YouTube with no adds is amazing and has changed my life for the better 

[Billz4ever]

23 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

Check back in a few years when each device has a fee or they limit it to say just 3 devices. Any additional ones cost a fee.

 

thrn you need to add together your other fees for say espn+ or Disney+ and so on.

Oh, you mean like cable already does their cable boxes and each additional one you need?  With the base plan, YouTube TV give you 3 concurrent streams.  That would cost you like $30 bucks extra on cable with paying for boxes.

 

Espn+ and Disney+ aren't free for cable subscribers either, so I don't know why you're trying to make it sound like those fees apply to only cord cutters.

 

And I would love to for you to provide a cable service that's currently cheaper than YouTube TV and has a comparable number of channels.

 

Not to mention, like there's an extra $20 bucks tacked onto your cable bill in taxes and fees that aren't even metioned in what they tell you cable package costs.  If your package is $100 bucks, what you're really paying is close to $120 to $125 with all the fees.

10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

 

YouTube with no adds is amazing and has changed my life for the better 

 

Not to mention you get YouTube music included with that.

Edited March 20, 2023 by Billz4ever

[nucci]

22 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

Check back in a few years when each device has a fee or they limit it to say just 3 devices. Any additional ones cost a fee.

 

thrn you need to add together your other fees for say espn+ or Disney+ and so on.

you're just speculating and until this happens I'll enjoy the savings and more channels for less cost...not paying extra fees for genie and dvr, extra fees just for hooking up a TV.

[Billz4ever]

2 minutes ago, nucci said:

you're just speculating and until this happens I'll enjoy the savings and more channels for less cost...not paying extra fees for genie and dvr, extra fees just for hooking up a TV.

 

The funniest part is that he wants to act like the cable companies aren't also raising their rates all the time too, so even if YouTube TV does periodically, the cable companies are still going to be more expensive regardless.

[sabres431]

The thing holding me back from switching is MSG.  Youtube TV doesn't have MSG, and MSG's new streaming service is priced to keep you with cable TV providers.