Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Beast said: I trust you guys saying Eric Wood and Chhis Brown are questioning White. With saying that you have to believe this is all on Tre and not some setback. You’d think Wood and Brown would know the behind the scenes stuff. Yeah but they can't get inside of his head to really understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, klos63 said: This is one of those 'sources' posts. A very high up source. White is 100% healthy, but refuses to play on synthetic turf. Not sure which particular fields are involved, but this is the word. If that is true, he needs to have his attitude adjusted. We aren't paying him to play when he thinks it's appropriate. But something like that is consistently with my take on what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, Roundybout said: 10 defensive backs against a run-first team? Odd. Maybe they plan on using 5 D-line with one stand up and 2 LBers in run situations. Who knows though Mcd loves him some DBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Johnnyp566 said: Well if that were true it’s time for him to retire. might be a bit premature, but yeah, that's where it should end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: If that is true, he needs to have his attitude adjusted. We aren't paying him to play when he thinks it's appropriate. But something like that is consistently with my take on what's going on. That or he needs to retire. No other team will pick a player who can only play certain games on a whim. Edit: Just seen someone else say this too. Edited November 20, 2022 by UKBillFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Yeah but they can't get inside of his head to really understand It sounds like that’s the issue. Shut him down and IR him. We need confident players on the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Yeah but they can't get inside of his head to really understand The evidence is out there. It's a Tre thing. Period. Exactly what his issue is, I don't know. Is he re-thinking playing the game/ending his career? Is it much simpler than that and he simply doesn't trust his knee in a game? Is what we just heard that he won't play on bad turf? Has he developed some phobia of sorts where he can't make himself play at all? Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 If today's game isn't a bloodbath (for the Browns) I'm gonna start to really worry about the bills. That'll be 3 games in a row that the bills should've won. You can make an argument for Minnesota beating us, but being at home, that should've been a bills win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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davefan66 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Pete said: Great video. They all seemed to be on good spirits. Von had his game face on, dudes got to be used to snow having lived in Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, klos63 said: This is one of those 'sources' posts. A very high up source. White is 100% healthy, but refuses to play on synthetic turf. Not sure which particular fields are involved, but this is the word. If this is the case, then quit/retire. We can’t allow this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, Roundybout said: 10 defensive backs against a run-first team? Odd. Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing ,,,,Frazier always being creative! They just said Watson played Allen for the Browns in practice this week. How insulting , couldn’t be two totally divergent guys But yep, all those dbs will really be great nailing Chubb today. This game and Thanksgiving are up in the air now. Cower really nailing Josh on him pressing and throwing all the ints. It’s another reason this game is possibly an L today if we keep the turnovers going on. Josh has 5 of his 10 ints throwing to Gabe. Davis has a 14% drop rate ! Team playing shaky and now all the travel Etc is distracting. Hope we can pull these two out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: Its gameday so why not just root for the team. Plenty of time for discussions during the week. At least that's my policy. Go Bills! The answer to your questions is because most (?) people who participate here do so to argue with strangers they can't see. It's why they are here. The actual "football" side of things usually strikes me as somewhat irrelevant. Look at the people who LIVE here 24/7, and then volunteer things like "I missed the start of the game." LOL I participate at many forums like this involving all kind of subjects having nothing to do with sports. They are mostly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, klos63 said: This is one of those 'sources' posts. A very high up source. White is 100% healthy, but refuses to play on synthetic turf. Not sure which particular fields are involved, but this is the word. So that leaves...Soldier Field in Chicago on Christmas Eve as the only option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Steptide said: If today's game isn't a bloodbath (for the Browns) I'm gonna start to really worry about the bills. That'll be 3 games in a row that the bills should've won. You can make an argument for Minnesota beating us, but being at home, that should've been a bills win Yeah, should have had the last few games for sure. Rewatched the vikings game and we did outplay them for a lot of the game. A few plays go out way and we win it convincingly. Expect the Bills to come out and play hard today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, Roundybout said: 10 defensive backs against a run-first team? Odd. What’s with Elam? Hammy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said: Seems like him playing Thursday are slim. What would realistically change in 4 days medically for him to suddenly be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, Chandler#81 said: If this is the case, then quit/retire. We can’t allow this. Ultimately, this will be a call that Beane has to make this offseason. Is he a part of this team, or not. Not a whole lot you can do now. You can’t just cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said: What’s with Elam? Hammy? Ankle I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, Beast said: I trust you guys saying Eric Wood and Chhis Brown are questioning White. With saying that you have to believe this is all on Tre and not some setback. You’d think Wood and Brown would know the behind the scenes stuff. Yep this shocks me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 We can't afford to roster a CB1 at market salary who won't play. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Steptide said: If today's game isn't a bloodbath (for the Browns) I'm gonna start to really worry about the bills. That'll be 3 games in a row that the bills should've won. You can make an argument for Minnesota beating us, but being at home, that should've been a bills win We should be 8-1 right now. I can accept the bizarre circumstances in Miami resulting in a defeat but we gifted victories to the Jets and the Vikings through simple errors. On the face of it, being a position where we're more likely to beat ourselves than the opposition is not a bad thing but we're running out of time to sort it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Qb1 ready to sling it today. Poyer back should be huge. Let’s Go!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 I hope Spector starts at MLB today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: Qb1 ready to sling it today. Poyer back should be huge. Let’s Go!! Please sling it to a Bill, please sling it to a Bill, please sling it to a Bill... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: We should be 8-1 right now. I can accept the bizarre circumstances in Miami resulting in a defeat but we gifted victories to the Jets and the Vikings through simple errors. On the face of it, being a position where we're more likely to beat ourselves than the opposition is not a bad thing but we're running out of time to sort it out. That's what everyone said earlier this year. The only team that can beat the Bills are the Bills. And so far that has reined true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: What’s with Elam? Hammy? Ankle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, delirious said: Can't wait to watch the defense struggle in nickel package against the browns, then have fans clamor that frazier never adjusts, and then subsequently the mental gymnastics will come out in defense of him. Rinse-repeat What a wonderful fan you are! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 A lot of people out there frustrated about Tre still not playing. While I am definitely among them, I can kind of understand it from his perspective. Tre has been a star basically since he came into the league as a rookie. He has been a premier player and one of the best in the world at his position. I firmly believe he has no intention of coming back until he is 100% sure he will be the same player, if not better, than he was when he left. By all accounts there has not had any physical setbacks and he has been playing scout team defense at practice. Obviously we don't know how the matchups with Diggs and Davis are going, but if he's been getting cooked by those guys once in a while, he may not think he's ready yet even though physically he might be. He's a competitor and doesn't want to take a backseat to anyone. Obviously those guys can beat even the best corners in the league so it shouldn't matter that much if that is happening, but if it is, it probably matters more to Tre than everyone else. And if this is the case, i do understand it from a certain point of view. My opinion is that this is all mental at this point. Somehow he needs to get over it though. The team needs him and when you see guys like Allen and Poyer gutting out major injuries just to get on the field, it makes it tougher for fans to be patient. I just hope his teammates aren't getting as frustrated as many others are. For a while now, when he didn't come back after the bye, I actually thought he may wait until after the Thanksgiving game to have that extra long week to get mentally there. While that could still very well happen, I'm starting to wonder if even that will be the case. Whatever the issue is though I hope it's resolved quickly and he's back on the field sooner than later. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Not to stir up any debate as I Love the Elements!! but something to be said for being indoors with no jacket on lol Quite comfortable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, Beast said: It sounds like that’s the issue. Shut him down and IR him. We need confident players on the field. 15 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: The evidence is out there. It's a Tre thing. Period. Exactly what his issue is, I don't know. Is he re-thinking playing the game/ending his career? Is it much simpler than that and he simply doesn't trust his knee in a game? Is what we just heard that he won't play on bad turf? Has he developed some phobia of sorts where he can't make himself play at all? Who knows. My response was more to "why isn't Sal and Eric woods reporting more of the details" I was more saying they likely don't know exactly why either as could be any of the reasons mentioned above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Yeah but they can't get inside of his head to really understand Someone check his Pokémon collection, stat. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: Not to stir up any debate as I Love the Elements!! but something to be said for being indoors with no jacket on lol Quite comfortable. 24 mph winds...wind chill of 10 in OP right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Bills really going all out. A man walked up to my nephew in a Josh Allen jersey and handed him a team autographed football. He walked around to random kids and passed out memorabilia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, klos63 said: This is one of those 'sources' posts. A very high up source. White is 100% healthy, but refuses to play on synthetic turf. Not sure which particular fields are involved, but this is the word. Hmm, what is Highmark stadium turf,,,? If this is actually something, maybe he us just referring to his first game back, as otherwise it’s a career changing issue. Time will tell , but if true this would be very hard to work around as the new stadium is years away. Have to to think it just refers to first game back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, wppete said: I hope Spector starts at MLB today. I’m not opposed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Klein inactive is a mistake. The linebacker depth after MM isnt inspiring. Klein and Hines are in game shape. There's no reason to be slow rolling their production. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) The browns are really bad. If bills lose I suppose it could have something to do with injuries, snow distraction, lack of practice, etc but it’s a bad sign. Cleveland is such a poorly coached team with players who lack discipline and focus. Edited November 20, 2022 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DrPJax said: Hmm, what is Highmark stadium turf,,,? If this is actually something, maybe he us just referring to his first game back, as otherwise it’s a career changing issue. Time will tell , but if true this would be very hard to work around as the new stadium is years away. Have to to think it just refers to first game back. I think Foxborough is synthetic too? So he won't play against the Lions, at the Patriots or at home against the Jets or Dolphins. Believe Soldier Field is grass so, if the assumption is correct, we won't be seeing him suit up until Christmas Eve at the earliest. Edited November 20, 2022 by UKBillFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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