BillsBy50 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Barkley is the best back in the league, imagine if the GMen didn’t run him into the ground for the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 36 minutes ago, FireChans said: Yeah that’s fine. Blame the OL. Not Daboll or Dorsey. 33 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: If your running backs are getting met in the backfield early and often, yes, I most certainly blame the O-line. Tell us, if you could have a great run blocking O-line or a great pass blocking O-line, which would you chose? Because there aren't many that are great at both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Barkley playing like a iron man with a dislocated shoulder injury I would love to have Barkley in buffalo I'd love to have Aaron Donald and Roquan Smith too. We can't afford 'em. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Dabs is playing Madden with the Giants offense. Kind of fun to watch! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 hours ago, FireChans said: So Dabs was killed here, often, about the lack of running game when he was out OC. Of course, he had Butterfingers Singles and Cement Block Moss at RB. Now he goes to NY, and he gets a quality RB like Barkley (who isn’t even THAT quality considering his last few season after a great rookie campaign) and BAM. Leading rusher in the NFL. Career resurgence. So maybe, just maybe, our lack of RB production wasn’t because of Daboll or Dorsey. And maybe our GM knows this which is why we have been dumping mid round picks to try to find SOMEONE decent at RB for the last 4 years. this is another big pile of doo doo. Give me Their Offensive Line - Josh Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Proof that running is necessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 LOL 3rd and 1 4th and 1 2 PASS plays TOD will Sherman melt down over that? I’d love to be a fly on the wall in the Packers locker room LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Nyg +270 For the win 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 hours ago, FireChans said: So Dabs was killed here, often, about the lack of running game when he was out OC. Of course, he had Butterfingers Singles and Cement Block Moss at RB. Now he goes to NY, and he gets a quality RB like Barkley (who isn’t even THAT quality considering his last few season after a great rookie campaign) and BAM. Leading rusher in the NFL. Career resurgence. So maybe, just maybe, our lack of RB production wasn’t because of Daboll or Dorsey. And maybe our GM knows this which is why we have been dumping mid round picks to try to find SOMEONE decent at RB for the last 4 years. He is featuring the best player he has on offense and covering up for his third rate QB. This hardly proof of anything other than that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, FLFan said: He is featuring the best player he has on offense and covering up for his third rate QB. This hardly proof of anything other than that. 5.5 YPC with the entire world knowing you’re running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: Nyg +270 For the win Bad loss for the Pack. Up 17-3. Just now, FireChans said: 5.5 YPC with the entire world knowing you’re running. And Allen puts up what he does with the other team knowing we're passing. So what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Billz4ever said: Bad loss for the Pack. Up 17-3. And Allen puts up what he does with the other team knowing we're passing. So what? I have posted the “what” like 19 times lmao. Go talk about Josh Allen elsewhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 WTF was that at the end? Was Daboll trying to give Aaron Rodgers the chance to s n a t c h defeat from the jaws of victory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: I have posted the “what” like 19 times lmao. Go talk about Josh Allen elsewhere We have Josh Allen, not Barkley. I will talk about Allen since he's our ride or die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, Billz4ever said: We have Josh Allen, not Barkley. I will talk about Allen since he's our ride or die. 2 hours ago, FireChans said: So Dabs was killed here, often, about the lack of running game when he was out OC. Of course, he had Butterfingers Singles and Cement Block Moss at RB. Now he goes to NY, and he gets a quality RB like Barkley (who isn’t even THAT quality considering his last few season after a great rookie campaign) and BAM. Leading rusher in the NFL. Career resurgence. So maybe, just maybe, our lack of RB production wasn’t because of Daboll or Dorsey. And maybe our GM knows this which is why we have been dumping mid round picks to try to find SOMEONE decent at RB for the last 4 years. There you go if you needed to understand the point lmao 2 hours ago, Simon said: The Giants have 3 points and Barkley has 6 touches for 10 yards. Well-timed observation. 🥺🥺 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, FireChans said: There you go if you needed to understand the point lmao 🥺🥺 I have no idea why people keep bringing up Barkley anyway since #1 we can't afford him and #2 the Giants are 4-1. Why people think the giants would want to give up their best player when they are where they are is laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 We suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 56 minutes ago, motorj said: This should be /thread and looks like Bark just got injured... Premature post of the day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 He's a good NFL coach. He is adjusting his strategy to the strengths of the players he has on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, FireChans said: 5.5 YPC with the entire world knowing you’re running. Bills have one of the best offenses and Giants lower tier….what’s your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I still don’t the Giants are legit. I think the Packers are just average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, TH3 said: Bills have one of the best offenses and Giants lower tier….what’s your point? Read the OP. Point is pretty clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, FireChans said: Read the OP. Point is pretty clear. Oh….BEANE ON THE HOTSEAT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 hours ago, FireChans said: So Dabs was killed here, often, about the lack of running game when he was out OC. Of course, he had Butterfingers Singles and Cement Block Moss at RB. Now he goes to NY, and he gets a quality RB like Barkley (who isn’t even THAT quality considering his last few season after a great rookie campaign) and BAM. Leading rusher in the NFL. Career resurgence. So maybe, just maybe, our lack of RB production wasn’t because of Daboll or Dorsey. And maybe our GM knows this which is why we have been dumping mid round picks to try to find SOMEONE decent at RB for the last 4 years. Not even that quality? His is a top flight back, full stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, FireChans said: 5.5 YPC with the entire world knowing you’re running. Who cares. I would rather have the QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Read the OP. Point is pretty clear. So when the Giants picked….they coulda had JA …..do you think they chose correctly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHAN Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 hours ago, FireChans said: So Dabs was killed here, Sure he was. Almost everyone is killed here. Means nothing. The vast majority of Bills FANS were very happy with him, and how he helped Allen develop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 So the point of your thread is that Singletary and Moss aren't as good as Saquon Barkley? A spectacular insight nobody has ever considered and certainly worthy of a thread to provide the attention you're seeking! 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I still don’t the Giants are legit. I think the Packers are just average. Depends upon what you mean by “legit”. I think they are a well coached team now. Wink Martindale knows something. Mike Kafka seems to be cooking well with the ingredients he’s got. So far, I think they legit have a shot at playoffs depending upon the rest of the NFC. I don’t think they have the hosses to go deep in the playoffs quite yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Simon said: So the point of your thread is that Singletary and Moss aren't as good as Saquon Barkley? A spectacular insight nobody has ever considered and certainly worthy of a thread to provide the attention you desperately crave! Good thing we've got so many people with such great football acumen they could bring that to our attention since that thought would never have dawned on me! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 He was a second overall pick. I would hope Daboll could make that work. They also have a better run blocking line there. Nobodies around the league have good games. Why? Because they have a blocking line. We cant run on short yardage because our line gets no push. Until thats fixed it doesnt matter what RB we have. Quote Entering the 2018 NFL draft, Barkley was widely projected to be a top 10 NFL pick.[39] In the weeks leading up to the NFL Combine, Barkley's stock rose even higher. By late February 2018, some mock drafts projected him as high as the second selection overall,[65] the highest for a running back since Reggie Bush in 2006. ESPN analyst Mel Kiper Jr., who has history of not supporting the selection of running backs in the NFL draft's first round, said "Barkley is a once in a lifetime talent, teams that pass on this young man will be sorry."[66] At the combine, Barkley had a performance that was widely praised, running a 4.4 second 40-yard dash and doing 29 bench presses of 225 pound weight, tying for the most reps by any running back at the combine.[67] According to NFL analyst Ian Rapoport, the Cleveland Browns were "strongly considering" drafting Barkley first overall, which would have made him the first running back since Ki-Jana Carter in 1995 to be selected first overall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Simon said: So the point of your thread is that Singletary and Moss aren't as good as Saquon Barkley? A spectacular insight nobody has ever considered and certainly worthy of a thread to provide the attention you desperately crave! I think his point is that there was a sizable contingent on this board that slammed Daboll for never running the ball, and that there was some philosophical thing with him that prevented him from designing a running game. Sort of like how Greg Roman is run happy and is pass averse. There were rumors that McD was pissed at the lack of a running game and that he felt Daboll was one of the reasons why. Clearly the data from this season shows he's flexible enough to modify his offense to emphasize the strengths of his players. I'm not saying it warrants its own thread, but I don't think his point is as simple as the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Hello!!!! I don't buy into "only a QB can win MVP" line of thinking. Saquon Barkley is square in the thick of the MVP race. 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: The Bills have been among the highest scoring teams in the NFL over the past 3 years and still people find things to complain about... Realistically I don't think people would be happy if we had the entire all-pro team playing for us. What have they won? Edited October 9, 2022 by Chicken Boo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, sullim4 said: I think his point is that there was a sizable contingent on this board that slammed Daboll for never running the ball, and that there was some philosophical thing with him that prevented him from designing a running game. Sort of like how Greg Roman is run happy and is pass averse. There were rumors that McD was pissed at the lack of a running game and that he felt Daboll was one of the reasons why. Clearly the data from this season shows he's flexible enough to modify his offense to emphasize the strengths of his players. I'm not saying it warrants its own thread, but I don't think his point is as simple as the above. I don't think that's what he saying at all. He's saying because the Giants have Barkley, that's why they can run and we can't. A running game starts with the O-Line. Period. A great RB will still struggle behind a line that doesn't open holes or get any push. Daboll knows what the strength of his team is and doesn't shy away from it and doesn't try to force their passing game into being something it's not. Jones played an efficient game today and didn't throw any picks. That's all that Daboll asks of them with their current talent. It's pretty clear OP is on the Barkley to Buffalo train. It ain't happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 There 4-0 good for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, Simon said: So the point of your thread is that Singletary and Moss aren't as good as Saquon Barkley? A spectacular insight nobody has ever considered and certainly worthy of a thread to provide the attention you're seeking! 2 hours ago, Simon said: The Giants have 3 points and Barkley has 6 touches for 10 yards. Well-timed observation. Now now, no need to get this fired up after dropping this gem lmao. Giants won btw, in large part to Saquon Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, 97bills said: There 4-0 good for them 4-1, but still exceeding expectations by a mile. 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Now now, no need to get this fired up after dropping this gem lmao. Giants won btw, in large part to Saquon Barkley. Once again acting like their O-Line doesn't exist and Barkley is creating everything on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Barkley is finally healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Stop counting other peoples sprinkles while your Ice cream melts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: Let me ask you a question. If you had Barkley and Jones as your two main offensive players, which player would YOU rather have with the ball in their hands? Pretty sure if he has a QB like Allen the offense wouldn't be going through Barkley. He is doing it out of necessity. When will people understand the Bills simply pay lip service to the running game and then put the ball in Allen's hand? You should change the title to "See what you do when you have a great RB and no QB?" 4-1 out of necessity? Singletary is a problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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