BillsPride12 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Just a question for fun but I'd def be curious to hear how others feel about this. As Bills fans we spent many, many years re-living and celebrating the Super Bowl era Bills teams and I know it was an incredible era and what those years meant for WNY. But now that we finally have ushered in a new era of exciting Bills football (I still think the best is yet to come and we will make it back to the Super Bowl whether it's this year or another) will the 90s Nostalgia finally die out? It definitely seems like it has already lost a lot of steam as people are more focused on the current team as they should be. The second part of the question is Are YOU ok with it? I was a huge fan of those teams and would not be the diehard Bills fan I am today without them but I'm at a point where I'm ok to let go of some of that Nostalgia. I think because of how bad we were for about two decades following the Super Bowl runs we really beat it to death re-living and reminiscing about the old glory years. Obviously the memories will always be there...but maybe we will no longer have to rely on them as Bills fans like we had to prior to Josh Allen and the Process coming along. The only thing about it that makes me sad is the younger generation coming up today won't truly know the history and understand what those Bills teams meant to the Buffalo/WNY area but at least they will have an amazing team of their own to claim. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 This conversation was probably held back in the '90s by people who are our age now, about the mid-60s teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Just a question for fun but I'd def be curious to hear how others feel about this. As Bills fans we spent many, many years re-living and celebrating the Super Bowl era Bills teams and I know it was an incredible era and what those years meant for WNY. But now that we finally have ushered in a new era of exciting Bills football (I still think the best is yet to come and we will make it back to the Super Bowl whether it's this year or another) will the 90s Nostalgia finally die out? It definitely seems like it has already lost a lot of steam as people are more focused on the current team as they should be. The second part of the question is Are YOU ok with it? I was a huge fan of those teams and would not be the diehard Bills fan I am today without them but I'm at a point where I'm ok to let go of some of that Nostalgia. I think because of how bad we were for about two decades following the Super Bowl runs we really beat it to death re-living and reminiscing about the old glory years. Obviously the memories will always be there...but maybe we will no longer have to rely on them as Bills fans like we had to prior to Josh Allen and the Process coming along. The only thing about it that makes me sad is the younger generation coming up today won't truly know the history and understand what those Bills teams meant to the Buffalo/WNY area but at least they will have an amazing team of their own to claim. Why does the 90s need to die out? 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Von put this mess out 3 weeks ago Heck I wish people could just forget last week. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I think the '90s SB teams will lose some of their position in history if and when the current team wins a SB. Not appears in, but WINS, a SB. In a world where the current regime makes it to the big dance and WINS, the '90s teams will seem less relevant and I think talk about them will naturally tail off a bit. People will still remember them forever and the players will always be favorite Bills for many. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I think they can still go hand in hand. If this team wins a SB or two, it will in a way vindicate the 90's team. In a weird way, it will almost be a tribute to the 90's team and that they are not only winning the trophy for themselves, but the 90's team as well. It will be a double whammy to bring home a trophy. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 No, this team has yet to even make it to a superbowl 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted October 1, 2022 Author Share Posted October 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I think the '90s SB teams will lose some of their position in history if and when the current team wins a SB. Not appears in, but WINS, a SB. In a world where the current regime makes it to the big dance and WINS, the '90s teams will seem less relevant and I think talk about them will naturally tail off a bit. People will still remember them forever and the players will always be favorite Bills for many. Interesting take, I feel like that could be true from a Bills fan perspective but will that still be true from an overall football fan perspective? The 90s Bills will still be the only team to go to 4 consecutive Super Bowls. I guess that's one point I didn't make in my original post. I think until it happens again..and it probably won't for a long time if ever...then the 90s Bills will always have their place in NFL history. 24 minutes ago, TH3 said: Why does the 90s need to die out? I actually am a huge 90s Nostalgia fanatic in general. I'm just talking about how Bills fans were kinda stuck in the early 90s for 25 years because of how bad the organization became after those years. I think now that we have finally become a relevant franchise again we won't ever have to go back to those days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Aurelius Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Old man from the Jack Kemp era checking in ... Abso-freakin'-lutely 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, TH3 said: Why does the 90s need to die out? That’s what I was going to say…. Why? that’s apart of the Bills…. Though I honestly think this team has a more solid 22 and a deeper roster as well. Much deeper. Do a man for man comparison man for man and it’s the new team that wins… Especially in the weapons department…. Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed…. We had a good backup RB then too but that’s where the talent really ends…. Of course, the new team happens to be almost completely injured right now…. 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 They were fun to watch then and now. The two hard to watch decades in between are the thing that has been buried. i don’t understand why there is an attempt to correlate then and now. Different organizations top to bottom. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaccof Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 With all due respect to the OP, until any other Bills team gets to and wins the Super Bowl, the 90's teams will still be my benchmark. Those teams dominated the AFC and except for one game a year, albeit the big game, they were absolutely the best team on the field for every game. There was no doubt about whether they were going to win or not and when the team did lose, people were genuinely surprised. The current iteration is a lot of fun to watch. They've won the division which is great but really, nothing of note - no AFC Championship and no SB appearances. If this current team wins a SB, then they will supplant all previous Bills teams in the hearts of the fans IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 21 minutes ago, chaccof said: With all due respect to the OP, until any other Bills team gets to and wins the Super Bowl, the 90's teams will still be my benchmark. Those teams dominated the AFC and except for one game a year, albeit the big game, they were absolutely the best team on the field for every game. There was no doubt about whether they were going to win or not and when the team did lose, people were genuinely surprised. The current iteration is a lot of fun to watch. They've won the division which is great but really, nothing of note - no AFC Championship and no SB appearances. If this current team wins a SB, then they will supplant all previous Bills teams in the hearts of the fans IMO. Oh I agree, as of now the 1990 Bills team is still the best Bills team I've seen in my lifetime....the AFL Championship teams were way before my time. I wasn't trying to say I think this current Bills team is better than the Super Bowl teams yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I get your point OP, but for me staying grounded in our past makes the current upwards trajectory that much sweeter…there’s no need to do away with any nostalgia, it’s simply added on to what we already have, like a solid 3-layer cake 🎂! 😁 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let's Go Buffalo Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I kind of look at it this way: My three brothers and I all played quite a bit of football, and finally our youngest brother was able to win a State Championship his Senior year.....and it was almost like a vindication for the rest of my family. I think it would almost feel the same way for those 90's teams, if the current team is able to get over that hump and win a Super Bowl. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 What's wrong with honoring the great teams of the 90's, or the 60's? I really enjoy looking back and learning about those teams, the great players in Bills history, and just the history of the team in general. There's no reason to forget those times. Remembering them does not dimish the current team at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I think the '90s SB teams will lose some of their position in history if and when the current team wins a SB. Not appears in, but WINS, a SB. In a world where the current regime makes it to the big dance and WINS, the '90s teams will seem less relevant and I think talk about them will naturally tail off a bit. People will still remember them forever and the players will always be favorite Bills for many. Agreed. To date the 90s era Bills has done more than this era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) Of course I enjoyed the 90's teams, I went to many games back then in person. However, I've moved on from those teams. I actually moved on a while ago, nothing against them or nostalgia in general, but gernally when I see something or am part of somethign I like...I enjoy it, look back on it for a year or two..and then shortly after I relegate it to the history books. If this team has a multi-year playoff run or goes to (or wins) a superbowl, that will be great also. A SB win would put this team above the 90's team for me for sure. But just like the 90's teams, a year or two later I'd be ready to move on and look at the team in front of me. I know everyone is different, but I guess I'm just not one to watch old games, or watch documentaries about teams from the past, and to really have a big connection to players from the past. For me its what is right in front of me. Edited October 2, 2022 by mjd1001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 For me between 2000-2015 is when I was really nostalgic on those 90s teams. 2000 was a couple years removed from the Super bowl years and then by 2015 it felt kinda tired at that point still reliving things from over 20 years ago. I'd add it was during the drought so them years it felt nice remembering the team was solid at one point. I will say though the team imo would really be under a tremendous amount of pressure if it makes back to the Super Bowl. Through no fault of their own. The 90s Super Bowl years I think will resurface but not in a nostalgic way to Bills fans with how I think the media will run with it. More like the teams history is it never gets it done when it makes it this far, it's up to this group to re-write history. So I would say until the team wins the Super Bowl I still see the 90's teams as the guerrilla in the room. That's not to diminish the 90s teams, I'm just sayin' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I hope that the 90s and this era are remembered separately. Those teams were awesome but could not get over that hump, hopefully this team does 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flmike Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, billybrew1 said: That’s what I was going to say…. Why? that’s apart of the Bills…. Though I honestly think this team has a more solid 22 and a deeper roster as well. Much deeper. Do a man for man comparison man for man and it’s the new team that wins… Especially in the weapons department…. Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed…. We had a good backup RB then too but that’s where the talent really ends…. Of course, the new team happens to be almost completely injured right now…. 😭 Dude, Cornelius Bennett, James Lofton, Don Beebe, Kelso and Jones, Darryl Talley, Metzelaars. All better than their current counterparts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Cart before the horse? If you think having a team that has been just pretty good for 2-3 years can be discussed in the same breath as a dynasty of 4 straight AFC championships then I don't know what to tell you. This current team doesn't hold a candle to those teams. If it all ended today and Poyer and then the next guy and next guy all wanted more $ and left and we never even made a super bowl I don't think anyone would ever remember we were good for a couple of seasons in the early 2020's and we would just be the same old Bills. Let's win something first and then we can talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 The current team hasn't done a thing by comparison.........and the current roster doesn't stack up against the rest of the league like those early 90's teams did. It can't. Free agency has made it impossible to build and maintain dynastic rosters. But I'm not sure that fans have been clinging to those 90's teams as much as you think they have..........a lot of the nostalgia/merchandise you are seeing is basically just the fact that for marketing purposes the 2020's are going to be all about 90's nostalgia.......just like the 2010's were about 80's nostalgia and the 1980's were about 50's nostalgia etc.. It's just coinciding with the fact that the team is competitive again. Also interesting to note that in the early 1990's the country was going to war and going thru a terrible recession and now the country has gone thru a pandemic and is struggling economically once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Sure we’re going to playoffs and winning regular season, until the trips to the SB happen I’ll never forget about the 90’s teams and even then…naw, they were awesome to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) The variety of retrospective threads during our uncommon experience (relatively) of rooting for a true contender can all, probably, be summed up by the same answer: We need to win a Lombardi. Nothing else will do. Edited October 2, 2022 by NickelCity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 10 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Cart before the horse? If you think having a team that has been just pretty good for 2-3 years can be discussed in the same breath as a dynasty of 4 straight AFC championships then I don't know what to tell you. This current team doesn't hold a candle to those teams. If it all ended today and Poyer and then the next guy and next guy all wanted more $ and left and we never even made a super bowl I don't think anyone would ever remember we were good for a couple of seasons in the early 2020's and we would just be the same old Bills. Let's win something first and then we can talk Once again I'm not saying this team is on that level of the Super Bowl teams. Those are still my all-time favorite years in Bills history by far. My point is after that era being a Bills fan we were pretty much just stuck living in that era and celebrating those teams for the next two decades because we had nothing else. I feel like now that we have turned the corner and become a perennial playoff team who has made an AFC championship game, has a franchise QB, favorites to win the SB that we will no longer have to resort to 90s Nostalgia to feel good about being a Bills fan. I just think a new era is underway and we no longer have to live in the past. Even if this current group doesn't win a Super Bowl either I'm not sure if fans will return to that state of "living in the past" with the 90s team again. Part of it is just time moves on and it's hard to keep celebrating the same thing over and over 30 years straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) It was my opinion that last years team may have been the best team in franchise history (not going back to the AFL days). Based on watching them play, the dominant victories, the point differential, the league rankings on both sides of the ball. They really should have been in the Super Bowl and that alone would have them in that conversation with the 90's teams. And note, I'm not talking dynasty here, but singular season. The 2021 Bills singular season vs. any of singular 4 seasons of the 90's dynasty team. That said, I don't see why the 90's teams have to die out from our memory. Edited October 2, 2022 by Sammy Watkins' Rib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I think most missed the OP's point in this thread. It's like when Andre Reed made the hall of fame back in 2013/2014 ish that I think that recharged the fanbase to a certain degree for a while seeing him being honored like that. Versus today say Steve Tasker finally gets let in the Hall of Fame, it'd be like all right cool but it's not something the fanbase would dwell on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 18 hours ago, TH3 said: Why does the 90s need to die out? This ^^^^^ I think it is fun to have Jim , Thurman, Andre, Bruce and others from the era as a part of the fan base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaccof Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 16 hours ago, BillsPride12 said: Oh I agree, as of now the 1990 Bills team is still the best Bills team I've seen in my lifetime....the AFL Championship teams were way before my time. I wasn't trying to say I think this current Bills team is better than the Super Bowl teams yet. I don't think the nostalgia of the '90's SB teams will go away until the current iteration does something - win a SB, or appear in a couple of SB's...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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