MNF: Broncos at Seahawks

[stevewin]

31 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Hackett was agonizing over that play call sheet all night. It was between run left, run right, bootleg left, bootleg right. Lot of choices.

Three more choices than what he ran in buffalo

[Malazan]

15 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

Carroll said that Jamal Adams "has a serious injury". Quad tendon.

 

Seahawks did everything they could to make the Jets good. 

[Big Turk]

Not impressed by Russ or the Broncos.

[HappyDays]

11 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

 

How many professional athletes do you know? Of course they're wired differently. 

 

Here's what professional athlete Mitchell Schwartz has to say about it:

 

[Big Turk]

15 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

Carroll said that Jamal Adams "has a serious injury". Quad tendon.

 

That's likely a season ending injury if it's ruptured 

[stevewin]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

He somehow coaxed a decent season out of Blake Bortles?

When St Doug Marrone is the HC miracles can happen

[Big Blitz]

When McManus missed the timeout kick it probably should have alerted Hacket that this is a really bad idea and I should put my O back on the field.  

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Here's what professional athlete Mitchell Schwartz has to say about it:

 

 

Same thing there were rumblings about in Seattle...that Wilson tries to be cool but he is a super nerd and people roll their eyes at him when he says stuff.

[Big C]

38 minutes ago, MJS said:

Horrible play calling. You have a dynamic QB who has one of the best deep balls in the game and you call dink and dunk pass plays, screens, and runs all night. Especially bad in the red zone. Plays getting in late all game long.

 

Russ is probably overrated a bit, but that game was not called to his strengths and he looked hamstrung by his own offense all night.

They called the plays they had to based on what the defense gave them. Seattle took away the deep ball. Russ has no other game. He is the most overrated QB I have ever seen and I’ve been saying this for years. He is a good QB, but he has not evolved his game at all, and doesn’t elevate the play of those around him. He is not a leader.
 

And yes I’ve seen him make some great plays and put his guys in a position to make plays. That one throw to, I think, 82 in the end zone was a good one and could have changed the game.

 

He’s just not the player so many people think he is because he came into the league as an electric playmaker on a loaded roster. Again, I could be wrong and Russ has all year left to prove himself. 

6 minutes ago, Airseven said:

Clock management (sideline confusion), decision to boot a 64 yarder (kicker poor 60+), and timeouts during the kneel downs. Total hack job.

Or Hackett job?

 

Yes he was atrocious too. But I really don’t think the play calls themselves were so bad as the game management.

[The Frankish Reich]

4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

When McManus missed the timeout kick it probably should have alerted Hacket that this is a really bad idea and I should put my O back on the field.  

I actually thought he was going to bring the offense back in after that. McManus missed that first one by a mile.

[GoBills808]

6 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Here's what professional athlete Mitchell Schwartz has to say about it:

 

Well I guess if Mitchell Schwartz said it it must be true!

[ExWNYer]

7 minutes ago, Malazan said:

 

Seahawks did everything they could to make the Jets good. 

 

But the Jest gonna Jest.

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

36 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

 

I wonder if that’s with 20 seconds left. Meaning if they called timeout earlier it would’ve been more skewed 

[Albany,n.y.]

Hackett called a 64 yarder "field goal range".  The 2 longest kicks in NFL history are a 64 yarder in Denver & a 66 yarder indoors in Detroit last year by one of the best kickers in NFL history Justin Tucker.  Hackett then doubled down & said he would do it again.  The ST coach needs to tell Hackett that 64 yards is not FG range.  If he has to take his shoe off & bop Hackett on the head to get his point across, he needs to do that.  

[The Frankish Reich]

8 minutes ago, Big C said:

They called the plays they had to based on what the defense gave them. Seattle took away the deep ball. Russ has no other game. He is the most overrated QB I have ever seen and I’ve been saying this for years. He is a good QB, but he has not evolved his game at all, and doesn’t elevate the play of those around him. He is not a leader.
 

And yes I’ve seen him make some great plays and put his guys in a position to make plays. That one throw to, I think, 82 in the end zone was a good one and could have changed the game.

 

He’s just not the player so many people think he is because he came into the league as an electric playmaker on a loaded roster. Again, I could be wrong and Russ has all year left to prove himself. 

I think you're wrong. But I'm starting to have second thoughts. Did the Seahawks ever - even in their dominant years - have modern, quick release, high completion percentage, precision passing game? Or was it all "let Russ run around and someone will break open sooner or later?" I'm not sure that works in the 2022 NFL, and it certainly doesn't work if your QB is 33 and not as evasive as he used to be. 

EDIT: I looked it up. High completion percentages? Yes. Of course, a lot of that was dinks and dunks too. But here's the missing element. Wilson had 849 rushing yards in 2014. Then as many as 513 just two years ago. Last year he was hurt a lot and the run disappeared from his game. And tonight? Not a good sign for Broncos fans since he didn't really show any running ability. 

Edited September 13, 2022 by The Frankish Reich

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

Let’s all take a minute to appreciate Geno Smith. Never thought I’d be reminded about another bad thing Jets did this week 

[Big C]

https://twitter.com/joshnorris/status/1569518124130783237?s=46&t=5DxOtC-91Mt2mju5I-3O9g

[FireChans]

6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Well I guess if Mitchell Schwartz said it it must be true!

Mitch Schwartz, licensed psychoanalyst who watches the same Twitter clips we do

[Big Blitz]

 

[chongli]

The Denver forum is having a complete meltdown. I like these posts:

 

1.

Quote

"Oh wait ... I just figured it out ...

We had to agree to lose this game in order to get the RW trade.

Must have been hard to make it look like we were really trying."

 

2.

Quote

"This team would get killed in by the Bills or the Chiefs. They lost to a terrible Seahawks team with a geriatric coach. I pray to Sam Walton to fix this."

 

3.

Quote

Positives:
None of our players died
Feel free to book any ski trips in January/early Feb
At least Drew Lock didn’t beat us

 

Edited September 13, 2022 by chongli

[GETTOTHE50]

dude wtf is russ wearing post game?

 

atleast go out in your pads & uniform and like act like youre in denial.

 

weird af

 

 

Edited September 13, 2022 by GETTOTHE50
what the hell is he even saying lmao

[Big C]

3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I think you're wrong. But I'm starting to have second thoughts. Did the Seahawks ever - even in their dominant years - have modern, quick release, high completion percentage, precision passing game? Or was it all "let Russ run around and someone will break open sooner or later?" I'm not sure that works in the 2022 NFL, and it certainly doesn't work if your QB is 33 and not as evasive as he used to be. 

This is more or less my point. Russ is athletic (not as much as he used to be) and has a very nice deep ball & general accuracy. However, in the game, he can’t work the middle of the field and never plays in a rhythm. To date, he is the only QB to win a ring with that play style but he was accompanied by an all time great defense and has not been able to rise to the occasion since. Not just physical limitations, his teammates do not rally around him. He makes excuses but now he’s out of them. This year he has to prove it.

[The Frankish Reich]

2 minutes ago, chongli said:

Positives:
None of our players died
Feel free to book any ski trips in January/early Feb
At least Drew Lock didn’t beat us

These are great. Particularly the bolded one.

[ExWNYer]

2 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

dude wtf is russ wearing post game?

 

atleast go out in your pads & uniform and like act like youre in denial.

 

weird af

 

Pimpin' 💯

 

(I suddenly have a weird urge for some mint chip ice cream)

[Warcodered]

5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

It'd be a bit more accurate if the battering ram would fly out of their hands at the end.

[GoBills808]

7 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Mitch Schwartz, licensed psychoanalyst who watches the same Twitter clips we do

Everyone knows Wilson is a huge dork. He's basically a less sociopathic Tiger Woods.

[Kenosha2Buffalo]

I can't remember if it was this board or the other bills board that people swore hacket was a genius behind doug moron  lol. We have come a long way..

[Malazan]

1 minute ago, Kenosha2Buffalo said:

I can't remember if it was this board or the other bills board that people swore hacket was a genius behind doug moron  lol. We have come a long way..

 

I know a few secret geniuses. They know they're geniuses, but they've managed to keep it secret from everyone else. I don't know Hackett, but I get the impression he's one too. 

[Big Blitz]

Russ.....I mean wtf

 

 

I never wavered?  

 

I guess.  

[Jauronimo]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

Everyone knows Wilson is a huge dork. He's basically a less sociopathic Tiger Woods.

His teammates have doubted his authenticity for a while.  Remember the "not black enough" commentary?

 

Who says stuff like this?

 

https://www.theroot.com/russell-wilson-says-god-asked-him-to-guide-ciara-as-the-1790886695

 

 

The good stuff starts at 4:30 mark.

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Russ.....I mean wtf

 

 

I never wavered?  

 

I guess.  

Did no one remember tell him he lost?

Edited September 13, 2022 by Warcodered

[Jauronimo]

1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

Russ.....I mean wtf

 

 

I never wavered?  

 

I guess.  

That had serious Nathan Peterman "child of god" vibes.  You never want to go full Peterman.

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

His teammates have doubted his authenticity for a while.  Remember the "not black enough" commentary?

 

Who says stuff like this?

 

https://www.theroot.com/russell-wilson-says-god-asked-him-to-guide-ciara-as-the-1790886695

 

 

The good stuff starts at 4:30 mark.

Yes, confirmed dork and God dude. 

[Mikie2times]

With Russ it's that whole broken play style that made him. He is legitimately one of the best run to throw QB's in NFL history (I think our guy already is better in this area, which for him is just one area of his game).

 

That said, this is really all Russ has ever been. In his 30's now, that style is not going to age well. 

[Bubba Gump]

That last 2 minute drive by the Broncos was absolutely pathetic. Wouldn't surprise me if Hackett is one and done.

[Big C]

11 minutes ago, KzooMike said:

With Russ it's that whole broken play style that made him. He is legitimately one of the best run to throw QB's in NFL history (I think our guy already is better in this area, which for him is just one area of his game).

 

That said, this is really all Russ has ever been. In his 30's now, that style is not going to age well. 

It hasn’t been aging well for years and I think people are just now starting to notice. 

4 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said:

That last 2 minute drive by the Broncos was absolutely pathetic. Wouldn't surprise me if Hackett is one and done.

For Hackett it’s going to be a question of learning game management over the course of the season. I don’t think he called a bad game. 

[BillsfaninSB]

We need to prop up the Broncos now.  Need their help to hopefully beat the Chargers and Chiefs at some point.   That is all I care about. 

[GETTOTHE50]

27 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Russ.....I mean wtf

 

 

I never wavered?  

 

I guess.  

thats what i was saying. wtf is this lol

[Big Blitz]

That's ownership.  And it's not his fault.  

 

 

Edited September 13, 2022 by Big Blitz

[Albany,n.y.]

15 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

That's ownership.  And it's not his fault.  

 

 

Brandon, you're delusional.  That may be your line to get to in Denver's thin air, but you weren't in Denver.  No player in NFL history has ever kicked a ball that far in an outdoor stadium that is not in Denver, and that was only done once in Denver.  So your line was a ridiculous overreach.  .