Putin Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: why would anyone need to “despise” something like PFF? how is it possible to be that worked up over it? weird You should be asking PFF that question with regards to Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, eball said: Lewan is a me-first douche. Yeah, I suspect his allegation is more of an "I'm a well known PED cheat myself........so I know a cheat when I see one". 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Putin said: You should be asking PFF that question with regards to Buffalo why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 So that's why they said Duck Hodges was better than Josh Allen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 43 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yeah, I suspect his allegation is more of an "I'm a well known PED cheat myself........so I know a cheat when I see one". Agreed. I was more so referring to the individual in general. Guy like that would never survive in the Buffalo locker room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 What does he mean that PFF 'is a complete liability'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Tuna fish is an inexpensive and nourishing high protein food. Tuna fish, Perry's Frozen Yogurt, what's next, hate Apple Pie? I'm not sure what play you're talking about, but Eric Wood did a segment where he pointed out why sometimes players get treated by teams (extended, asked to take salary cuts) in a way discordant with their PFF ratings. His example was a play where he was graded as apparently whiffing on a blocker. He was playing next to Richie Incognito (no rookie) whose assignment it was to block that guy. The Bills won, and Wood said he and Richie joked afterwards that PFF would assign the fault to him (Wood). They did. It's the reason why I personally feel that PFF's OL and DL grades are particularly to be taken with a large grain of salt. Grain? Dump truck of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, klos63 said: What does he mean that PFF 'is a complete liability'? I imagine he would be referring to how the league showcases (or used to anyway) players’ PFF grades during broadcasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Sunday night football shills PFF so that Collinsworth can feel more important on the broadcast. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 No way this is ever proven, but in the off chance it is that will be a killer lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, klos63 said: What does he mean that PFF 'is a complete liability'? this moron thinks “liability” means “ability to lie” 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 6 hours ago, BigAl2526 said: If it turns out there is something to it, Chris Collinsworth could find himself in some doodoo with the network. I suspect the league would be unhappy with him too. The league hates controversy with anyone connected with NFL football, and not just players. Unless Lewan is in possession of real evidence that PFF has taken bribes (which is highly unlikely), then he is probably the one that’s in trouble. PFF is not a small business and that is a potentially very damaging accusation. I am surprised we have not seen a retraction by now. I’m sure he’s gotten a cease and desist letter from PFF’s lawyers discussing how slanderous his statements are and what the legal ramifications could be. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Unless Lewan is in possession of real evidence that PFF has taken bribes (which is highly unlikely), then he is probably the one that’s in trouble. PFF is not a small business and that is a potentially very damaging accusation. I am surprised we have not seen a retraction by now. I’m sure he’s gotten a cease and desist letter from PFF’s lawyers discussing how slanderous his statements are and what the legal ramifications could be. You’d better think long and hard before making such accusations. What is the most likely response from PFF? Can you prove it and stay safe? If the answer is “no”, it’s best to abort before opening your mouth. Beside that, what was to be gained? They hurt his feelings and he wants to strike out? Or maybe it’s true but he just can’t prove it. Still, what is to be gained? Looks like the best case is you don’t lose an expensive lawsuit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 If true, there probably is no way to prove it. There is also really no reason to share if you cant prove It. Not a surprise if true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Putin said: You should be asking PFF that question with regards to Buffalo Collinsworth 15 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: If true, there probably is no way to prove it. There is also really no reason to share if you cant prove It. Not a surprise if true. Some people use checks when committing these heinous acts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, unbillievable said: Collinsworth Some people use checks when committing these heinous acts. Others use Venmo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 9 hours ago, NewEra said: Throw someone under the bus or it didn’t happen Taylor. Does Duck Hodges count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 34 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: If true, there probably is no way to prove it. There is also really no reason to share if you cant prove It. Not a surprise if true. Sure there is. Unless they are handing them 50k in cash. Even still, PFF would likely keep some sort of "of the books" records on who paid to inflate their rating. That's possibly ~1700 players only counting the 53 man roster. Even a tenth of that would be hard to believe they just take the money and just tick their number up a few points. They would likely expect a payment the following season and need to keep track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Sure there is. Unless they are handing them 50k in cash. Even still, PFF would likely keep some sort of "of the books" records on who paid to inflate their rating. That's possibly ~1700 players only counting the 53 man roster. Even a tenth of that would be hard to believe they just take the money and just tick their number up a few points. They would likely expect a payment the following season and need to keep track. Or you could just bribe the ‘analysts’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Not surprised at all about this. PFF is definitely a scam. Many things around the NFL are corrupted, sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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