Einstein Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 “[PFF] is a complete liability, it’s a lie,” says Lewan in the video. “Do you know there’s NFL football players who go and pay $50,000 a year to PFF so their numbers are inflated?” https://atozsports.com/nashville/taylor-lewan-makes-statement-that-completely-discredits-pro-football-focus/ 3 14 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Oooo. This could be juicy. 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) I am getting excited now! Off season content! Edited May 15, 2022 by TBBills 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 “[PFF] is a complete liability" Looks like Taylor paid his English prof for higher grades... 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 I really don’t like Lewan, but I would 100% love to see some truth in this. I despise PFF 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Throw someone under the bus or it didn’t happen Taylor. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Sorry Taylor, but if you're not pleased with your pff score, it's probably because you gave up 5 sacks week one vs Chandler Jones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Maybe he should open his pocketbook 😎 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I despise PFF Talk about going out of your way to find something to feel contempt about. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, Einstein said: “[PFF] is a complete liability, it’s a lie,” says Lewan in the video. “Do you know there’s NFL football players who go and pay $50,000 a year to PFF so their numbers are inflated?” https://atozsports.com/nashville/taylor-lewan-makes-statement-that-completely-discredits-pro-football-focus/ 4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Talk about going out of your way to find something to feel contempt about. Errr....this is a thread about PFF allegedly taking "bribes" to inflate statistics? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, Einstein said: “[PFF] is a complete liability, it’s a lie,” says Lewan in the video. “Do you know there’s NFL football players who go and pay $50,000 a year to PFF so their numbers are inflated?” https://atozsports.com/nashville/taylor-lewan-makes-statement-that-completely-discredits-pro-football-focus/ Not a surprise really - I think there are teams that also get favorable grading over other teams. The numbers don’t always match up to what the players talk about when listening. I think the boost scores and don’t grade evenly across positions and styles. Oh well - I hope he has some proof that can comedown on the entire PFF model - get something neutral to actually grade plays. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: Sorry Taylor, but if you're not pleased with your pff score, it's probably because you gave up 5 sacks week one vs Chandler Jones. Yeah I think for good reason Lewan simply dislikes having stats associated with his name..........prefers the lesser standard of "perception" to having to execute well every down like positions with more statistical analysis. He's a very inconsistent player. But of course he used stats to start a twitter beef with Shaq Lawson back in 2019 after the Bills beat the Titans. Pointed to stats to show that Shaq was a bust. Then Jordan Phillips pointed out that Lewan was suspended for PED's etc.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 If provable that would explain a lot. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Quote PFF, which is majority-owned by NBC’s Cris Collinsworth, ... I didn't know that. Quote ... offers exclusive services to NFL teams, agents, and college football programs. It’s reasonable to expect that teams and agents use PFF, to some degree, to determine a player’s value. If those grades are being inflated because of payments from players, then it throws the legitimacy of the entire business into question. It might be reasonable to expect that teams use the raw data that PFF provides, but I doubt that they use PFF's opinions or overall ratings. Without knowing which "exclusive services" they offer, it's hard to know how much this would impact teams' decisions about players. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 So are we going to be free of Collinsworth or not? 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 I wish it was someone more trustworthy claiming this. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Errr....this is a thread about PFF allegedly taking "bribes" to inflate statistics? why would anyone need to “despise” something like PFF? how is it possible to be that worked up over it? weird 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, MJS said: I wish it was someone more trustworthy claiming this. True, but I still believe him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 I also wish it hadn’t came out during a heated debate with someone else, people are more likely to say falsities under those conditions that aren’t immediately provable to bolster their argument. Has PFF responded? If untrue I’d expect them to go after Lewan for defamation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 So Lewan is cheap? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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