Process Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Don't know anything about him but from what I am reading here he is a great rum blocker but struggles in pass pro. Saffold is the same. Brown too, he looked completely lost in pass pro at times last year. A bit concerning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, GreggTX said: He's a backup at best, but still better than either Bates or Brown. Still, we need big upgrades at RG and RT. Bates and Brown are solid players with deep potential, Bills are paying Bates starter money. Q is definitely the guy if either regresses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 I am sorry to say, but PFF lineman grades are horse pooh. 80 grade with 11 sacks prove it, though Tannehill does like to hold the ball. But Quessenberry is a versatile guy who is very long and athletic. I always followed his career because of his fight with cancer. It is a great story of perseverance. Quessenberry is a bit older because of his situation, but his versatility is intriguing. He could be the swing tackle or the 1st interior sub off the bench. He is a hedging your bets kind of player. If there is an injury he can play pretty much anywhere and from all accounts is a great locker room guy. He played a lot of left tackle for the Titans when Lewan was hurt. I would teach him to snap so he could sub at center as well. If he is great at run blocking, but struggles in pass pro, playing in the interior where you get help could certainly hide those deficiencies. Nice signing. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: He played LT in 2020. So? How well? He hasn't made the team,yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Good signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: But, but...PFF said he's great?!! Are you saying that they are not the bible of football? So let me see if I have this correct. His PFF was 80 yet he gave up 11 sacks? I don't trust any analytic anymore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: So let me see if I have this correct. His PFF was 80 yet he gave up 11 sacks? I don't trust any analytic anymore. PFF grades are completely subjective, a fact they conveniently don’t highlight. Doesn’t even qualify as an analytic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake_My_Head Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Good on Beane. Bring as many NFL-quality OL to camp and let the best men win. Lots of competition, as everyone will be starting from scratch with Kromer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Bates and Brown are solid players with deep potential, Bills are paying Bates starter money. Q is definitely the guy if either regresses. I more or less agree with this… but if Q comes in and really impresses, I think that a competition could arise during the season. Especially if/when someone get hurt and has to miss time. If he can improve his pass pro, you never know what could happen -Those thinking Doyle is a better option are dreaming. Maybe in a year or two. -have we heard the financials of the deal? Edited April 21, 2022 by NewEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: PFF grades are completely subjective, a fact they conveniently don’t highlight. Doesn’t even qualify as an analytic. Very few people here take time to actually grade a player on every play but will criticize a PFF grade. Yes they’re subjective, like all grades, but if you don’t have anything to compare to then it’s hard to complain. I think some grading is very difficult to do without knowing an assignment. OL/DL is probably the easiest to grade but still there are assignments that could put a player in a bad situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 38 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Why are people continuing to beat the bates horse..... They guy has done NOTHING but play well Ok but - he had 3 starts last year at LG. Before that he had 0, with a couple of looks in finale games against the jets and dolphins. He's now the presumptive starter at RG, with like 0 experience at the position and a RT next to him who struggles at time in pass pro. He performed better than Boettger and Ford - is that the line we want to draw in the sand? He's better than bad? Did we run the backs THAT much better in the final 3 games of the year? I think we ran it more... often? But we weren't particularly effective at it. NE - 15 for 51 yards (22nd ranked rush defense) Atl - 28 for 149 yards (233 total with Allens yards, and this was the 27th ranked rush defense) NYJ - 24 for 96 yards (29th ranked rush defense) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Very few people here take time to actually grade a player on every play but will criticize a PFF grade. Yes they’re subjective, like all grades, but if you don’t have anything to compare to then it’s hard to complain. I think some grading is very difficult to do without knowing an assignment. OL/DL is probably the easiest to grade but still there are assignments that could put a player in a bad situation. 1. not all grades are subjective. Certain grade can be assigned based on measurable qualities. 2. if PFF made readily available the qualifications of their “graders” so we could make a better determination of their expertise, I’d be less inclined to criticize them. As it stands, that info doesn’t appear to be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 He's a quality depth piece to have. Injuries happen in the NFL and he could play multiple positions at a decent level if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 While it's nice to hear he's a good run blocker, in todays NFL that doesn't mean a whole lot when you can't protect the QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 I was actually hoping there was a chance that Williams might come back in a backup role Looks like this signing says no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 The Bills do not have a need on the offensive line this year. They are 10 deep with all backups except for Doyle having tons of starting experience. Might they need a guard next year? Sure. But they can definitely worry about that a year from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Please note: this thread does not concern former MLB reliever Dan Quisenberry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Honestly, seems like the 6th lineman. Insurance for Saffold, Bates, Brown and is making Doyle earn a roster spot. Very good pick up imo. These guys are becoming the standard for other organizations to copy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, Beast said: While it's nice to hear he's a good run blocker, in todays NFL that doesn't mean a whole lot when you can't protect the QB. Kromer coming in, Dorsey taking over, the mentions of needing to run the ball by McBeane over the last year or so, the Oline they are bringing in all seem to be pointing to more emphasis on the run game to me. Seems like we will be running the ball more often and Josh should see his number of carries drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 I like this a lot. Now just grab an IOL in middle round who can develop at center. OL should be upgraded overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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