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10 minutes ago, section122 said:

With the 33rd pick the jacksonville jaguars select david ojabo edge michigan.

 

I know its doubling up on the position. I know its probably not popular but...

 

I think taking Hutchinson allows them to gamble AND wait.  The jags had success with myles jack who dropped and I think the value is excellent here.  A top 15 talent who can redshirt.  Does anyonw really think the jags are sb contenders no matter who the pick is?

 

The and Lions @NewEra are on the clock


Great upside pick there. Excellent value and fit imo

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With the 34th pick, the Detroit Lions select Christian Watson, WR North Dakota St.


We need offensive threats and feel like we’ve added one in Christian Watson. 6’4 208 4.36 speed 32 1/2 inch arms and 10 1/8 inch hands.  Showed great improvement from 2020 to 2021 and feel that his best football is ahead of him.  He’s a nice compliment and slot WR St Brown. Chark is on a 1 year deal.  Khalid Raymond, Josh Reynolds, Quintez Cephus, all

solid, yet aren’t scaring anyone. Watson has some scare ability if he continues to improve 
 

@GunnerBill and the jets are now on the clock. 

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With the 35th pick in the 2022 TSW Draft, the New York Jets select, Boye Mafe, Edge, Minnesota. 

 

The New York Football Giants and @LEBills are now on the clock.

 

I passed on edge at #10 because I think there is more day 2 depth to the edge group than the corner group and that is broadly how it has played out. That said, had any of the three guys who went just before me got to this point I'd have picked them because they were sticking out BPA. Good job those 3 GMs. The Jets do have Carl Lawson to return at edge and while that should give them some added pass rush threat he only averaged 5 sacks a year in Cincinnati. Boye Mafe is a bit of a swing for the fences. There was a safer edge pick available here but Mafe is a physical freak, a super high RAS guy, and an explosive terror on the edge. He might be a little raw as a rookie but if he hits he can be an elite edge rusher in the NFL. 

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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

With the 35th pick in the 2022 TSW Draft, the New York Jets select, Boye Mafe, Edge, Minnesota. 

 

The New York Football Giants and @LEBills are now on the clock.

 

I passed on edge at #10 because I think there is more day 2 depth to the edge group than the corner group and that is broadly how it has played out. That said, had any of the three guys who went just before me got to this point I'd have picked them because they were sticking out BPA. Good job those 3 GMs. The Jets do have Carl Lawson to return at edge and while that should give them some added pass rush threat he only averaged 5 sacks a year in Cincinnati. Boye Mafe is a bit of a swing for the fences. There was a safer edge pick available here but Mafe is a physical freak, a super high RAS guy, and an explosive terror on the edge. He might be a little raw as a rookie but if he hits he can be an elite edge rusher in the NFL. 


Man I like Mafe too. The bad part about draft crushes is that you only get to have one, if the team even picks one. But I am going to follow his career wherever he winds up. Except if its the Patriots

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20 hours ago, glazeduck said:

Meh, he's a low-ceiling player. I think you have to do better than that in the first.


If we're faced with that situation in real life, I hope we trade back, improve our 2 and take Tariq Woolen and the best available WR.

Woolen is fast and big, for sure, but he doesn’t look very smooth/athletic changing directions - at least to me.  Can he work on that?  I guess yes, it is a skill to develop, but he doesn’t really look ready to play in the NFL to me.  I do like that he seems to be a willing tackler.

 

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With the 36th pick in the 2022 TSW Draft, the New York Giants select, Arnold Ebiketie, Edge, Penn State. 

 

The Houston Texans and @manncare now on the clock.

 

The Giants are in desperate need of Edge production (one of many positional needs). We like Ebiketie’s explosion and length and that he has had major production at two schools, Temple and PSU. Though we thought about going with an off ball linebacker as their were several good ones on the board, we felt that a player with all the traits to get around the Edge was the right value at the start of the second round.

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  • Virgil changed the title to TSW Mock Draft 1.0 - The Texans (mannc) are on the clock

With the 37th pick in the 2022 TSW Mock Draft 1.0, the Houston Texans select Alec Pierce, WR, Univ of Cincinnati.  
 

Even after the run on WRs at the end of round 1, we were excited that one of our top-rated guys was still on the board…WR is a huge need for us and we love Pierce’s size, speed and competitiveness at the catch point. 

 

The NY Jests (GunnerBill) are on the clock.

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With the 38th pick of the TSW Mock Draft, the New York Jets select, Chad Muma, Linebacker, Wyoming

 

For the first time in this draft the Chicago Bears and @Philo are on the clock!

 

I had the Jets taking Muma in round 2 in my recent mock and I liked the fit so much I am doing it again. I actually see a bit of Fred Warner in him. He has some way to go to match Warner's performances in the league but when I think about how Saleh used him in that 49ers defense I can see the fit here. Good size, good athleticism, fierce tackler he can play in base or sub. I see him starting on the strong side as a rookie and then taking over from CJ Mosely at MLB in 2023. We might have had the least talented defense in the entire NFL last season. With Booth, Mafe and Muma I feel like we have added some juice on that side of the ball. 

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Philo sent me his pick 
 

Bears select Roger McCreary, DB, Auburn

 

Bears need help all over with the secondary being a particularly needy position group. McCreary should jump right in as a Day One starter and inject much needed athleticism to the group. I won’t divulge other positions that were considered as we have another pick coming up shortly. 
 

The Seahawks are on the clock @Rock-A-Bye Beasley

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1 hour ago, mannc said:

With the 37th pick in the 2022 TSW Mock Draft 1.0, the Houston Texans select Alec Pierce, WR, Univ of Cincinnati.  
 

Even after the run on WRs at the end of round 1, we were excited that one of our top-rated guys was still on the board…WR is a huge need for us and we love Pierce’s size, speed and competitiveness at the catch point. 

 

The NY Jests (GunnerBill) are on the clock.

 

I watched some Alec Pierce film for the first time yesterday after hearing Chris Simms talk about him and I was blown away. I don't know why he isn't getting more late 1st round buzz. The tape reminded me of DK Metcalf with a little less explosiveness but a lot better hands. The way he jumps up and snatches the ball out of the air it just looks like a true #1 WR.

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47 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

With the 38th pick of the TSW Mock Draft, the New York Jets select, Chad Muma, Linebacker, Wyoming

 

For the first time in this draft the Chicago Bears and @Philo are on the clock!

 

I had the Jets taking Muma in round 2 in my recent mock and I liked the fit so much I am doing it again. I actually see a bit of Fred Warner in him. He has some way to go to match Warner's performances in the league but when I think about how Saleh used him in that 49ers defense I can see the fit here. Good size, good athleticism, fierce tackler he can play in base or sub. I see him starting on the strong side as a rookie and then taking over from CJ Mosely at MLB in 2023. We might have had the least talented defense in the entire NFL last season. With Booth, Mafe and Muma I feel like we have added some juice on that side of the ball. 

I would SO hate this if it happened. 

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3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I watched some Alec Pierce film for the first time yesterday after hearing Chris Simms talk about him and I was blown away. I don't know why he isn't getting more late 1st round buzz. The tape reminded me of DK Metcalf with a little less explosiveness but a lot better hands. The way he jumps up and snatches the ball out of the air it just looks like a true #1 WR.

 

I actually think where he went in this is a little early for him. I do think he is a 2nd rounder though. The reasons for me are two-fold. Lack of diversity in his route running. He runs the 9 route well, but he doesn't run a full route tree. The other is separation. He tested really well at the combine, but on the film..... man there are a lot of contested catches. Does he separate well enough? That is what holds him down as a day 2 grade for me. Love the size, love the toughness, love the hands. But he is a bit one dimensional for me at this point. 

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8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I actually think where he went in this is a little early for him. I do think he is a 2nd rounder though. The reasons for me are two-fold. Lack of diversity in his route running. He runs the 9 route well, but he doesn't run a full route tree. The other is separation. He tested really well at the combine, but on the film..... man there are a lot of contested catches. Does he separate well enough? That is what holds him down as a day 2 grade for me. Love the size, love the toughness, love the hands. But he is a bit one dimensional for me at this point. 

There are a lot of contested catches because Ridder is not a very good quarterback…so many underthrown balls…

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6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I actually think where he went in this is a little early for him. I do think he is a 2nd rounder though. The reasons for me are two-fold. Lack of diversity in his route running. He runs the 9 route well, but he doesn't run a full route tree. The other is separation. He tested really well at the combine, but on the film..... man there are a lot of contested catches. Does he separate well enough? That is what holds him down as a day 2 grade for me.

 

You could copy and paste this into a DK Metcalf thread from 3 years ago and it would fit right in. I would hate to miss out on that caliber of WR twice, especially since we don't have anyone with that skill set on the team. That explosive downfield playmaking ability would add a missing element to our offense and mesh really well with Allen's strengths.

 

I think we overrate route running with WRs like Metcalf and Pierce. They separate by flying by everyone and launching into the air at the catch point. I'm hesitant on contested catch specialists as prospects (i.e. N'Keal Harry) but I wouldn't classify Pierce as the same thing. The catches aren't truly contested because he leaps over everyone and snatches the ball out of the air, and his hands are just about perfect in those situations.

 

Cover 1 has a film review on him and you see every type of catch on his tape - jumping high and falling down with the ball, catching a vertical pass at full speed over the shoulder or by extending out, catching a quick hitter and positioning his body and the ball to brace for a big hit. On a few plays he runs cleanly by his man and has a ton of separation downfield but Ridder inexplicably throws the ball to the other side of the field. Other times he has to slow down to catch an underthrown ball which turns into a contested catch through no fault of his own. So he can't run clean comeback routes... We already have that skillset in Diggs. We don't have anyone that can do what Pierce does down the field. He instantly became my new draft crush.

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5 minutes ago, mannc said:

There are a lot of contested catches because Ridder is not a very good quarterback…so many underthrown balls…

 

I agree Ridder's ball placement is some of the reason but it doesn't explain all of it. I think he wastes steps in his routes. He has plenty of speed so it should be fixable, but it is a legit issue on his film. He is a good prospect but he belongs on day 2 and there are other guys I'd take before him. 

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

You could copy and paste this into a DK Metcalf thread from 3 years ago and it would fit right in. I would hate to miss out on that caliber of WR twice, especially since we don't have anyone with that skill set on the team. That explosive downfield playmaking ability would add a missing element to our offense and mesh really well with Allen's strengths.

 

I think we overrate route running with WRs like Metcalf and Pierce. They separate by flying by everyone and launching into the air at the catch point. I'm hesitant on contested catch specialists as prospects (i.e. N'Keal Harry) but I wouldn't classify Pierce as the same thing. The catches aren't truly contested because he leaps over everyone and snatches the ball out of the air, and his hands are just about perfect in those situations.

 

Cover 1 has a film review on him and you see every type of catch on his tape - jumping high and falling down with the ball, catching a vertical pass at full speed over the shoulder or by extending out, catching a quick hitter and positioning his body and the ball to brace for a big hit. On a few plays he runs cleanly by his man and has a ton of separation downfield but Ridder inexplicably throws the ball to the other side of the field. Other times he has to slow down to catch an underthrown ball which turns into a contested catch through no fault of his own. So he can't run clean comeback routes... We already have that skillset in Diggs. We don't have anyone that can do what Pierce does down the field. He instantly became my new draft crush.

 

So the slightly one dimensional route tree is DK esque. But separation wasn't an issue for DK. He visibly separated. 

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8 minutes ago, mannc said:

There are a lot of contested catches because Ridder is not a very good quarterback…so many underthrown balls…


This is a huge part of it. Underthrown or not thrown at all when he was open. Watching Pierce made me realize Ridder should be a day 3 pick.

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The Colts select Bernhard Raimann OT Central Michigan  

 

    Indianapolis has a strong roster but will need an OT and a developmental QB.  This FO was looking at Corral but would have taken the OT here even if Corral remained on the Board.  Matty Ice has two years left while Eric Fischer is aging out fast and the Colts love the value with Raimann still on the board here.  High Fives all around.     

 

   The Atlanta Falcons with @Alphadawg7are on the clock for the next selection.

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1 hour ago, NewEra said:

The Seahawks select, Matt Corral, Qb, Ole Miss and Kyler Gordon cb, Washington 

 

Corral- they have no viable QB.  Why not?

Gordon-  he’s a great ball player and everyone needs corners.  

 

@CNYfan is on the clock

 

Man, here I was hoping Gordon would make it a few more pics and the Commanders D would've been complete!

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With the 43rd pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select:  Sam Howell, QB North Carolina.

 

While QB was a consideration for us at the 8th pick, we didn't feel we could pass up on an elite talent like Garett Wilson at that spot.  But here with the 11th pick in the 2nd round, we are excited to select what we feel is one of the best QB prospects in this draft to come in and learn behind our veteran leader Mariota.  

 

We feel people are sleeping on Howell over what was for some reason a perceived down year.  This down year still saw him throw for over 3000 yards, 24 TDs while rushing for over 800 yards and another 11 TDs.  He is a strong armed and accurate QB who can extend and make plays with his legs.  We feel there is a lot top end traits in him and watched him remain accurate and productive even as he continued to lose weapons each year to the draft.  We look forward to seeing him come in and compete with and learn from Mariota.  


@frostbitmicand the Cleveland Browns are now on the clock.

 

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1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

With the 43rd pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select:  Sam Howell, QB North Carolina.

 

While QB was a consideration for us at the 8th pick, we didn't feel we could pass up on an elite talent like Garett Wilson at that spot.  But here with the 11th pick in the 2nd round, we are excited to select what we feel is one of the best QB prospects in this draft to come in and learn behind our veteran leader Mariota.  

 

We feel people are sleeping on Howell over what was for some reason a perceived down year.  This down year still saw him throw for over 3000 yards, 24 TDs while rushing for over 800 yards and another 11 TDs.  He is a strong armed and accurate QB who can extend and make plays with his legs.  We feel there is a lot top end traits in him and watched him remain accurate and productive even as he continued to lose weapons each year to the draft.  We look forward to seeing him come in and compete with and learn from Mariota.  

 

@frostbitmicand the Cleveland Browns are now on the clock.


I like Howell. I dont’t know if any QB really comes through this year, but I think Howell will be around the longest, even if he stays a backup. 

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6 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:


I like Howell. I dont’t know if any QB really comes through this year, but I think Howell will be around the longest, even if he stays a backup. 

 

Honestly, I think the draft class is weak in terms of top tier QB talent...but actually very strong in that next tier of QB prospects.  Guys who are going to go in the 2nd and 3rd rounds dont really grade a lot lower than guys likely going in the first.  Its a good year to take a stab at one here where the investment into them is minimal (a single non-first round pick) but have the potential to emerge as a good starter still in the NFL.  

 

Guys like Howell, Corral, Ridder, Strong all guys that still have some legit upside.  Personally I have Corral and Howell very close, and I was previously leaning Corral, but honestly I think Howell is being slept on and is better built to have a longer career.  

 

If I am the Falcons, I am eyeing a QB in the 2nd and taking a top tier prospect at 8 in the first.  

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With the 44th pick in the 2022 NFL draft and the last time we'll be picking this high for years, the Cleveland Browns select Daniel Fa'alele - OT - Minnesota.

 

 

We wanted to go WR with this pick but just thought it would be a reach for any of them at this point so we might as well protect the "franchise". Daniel has trimmed down nicely during his time at Minnesota to drop from a playing weight of 420 down to a svelte 380 on his 6'8" frame. He also has a wingspan of 85 1/8" so he might be blocking FGs for us too. The weakest part of his game will be in pass pro but we figure it might take a minute to run around him. When it comes to blocking for the run, Fa'alele will be pushing defenders into Lake Erie and we like to run the ball. He is now the biggest player in the history of the NFL and he can move for a mountain of a man.

 

@Virgil and the Ravens are now on the clock.

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With the 45th pick in the 2022 TSW Mock Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select Kingsley Enagbare, Edge, South Carolina

 

The Ravens are looking to generate more pass rush, as well as protect Lamar.  The value at 45 was overwhelming with Enagbare, making this pick a no brainer for the Ravens. 

 

The Minnesota Vikings are on the clock @Doc Brown

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With the 46th pick in the 2022 TSW Mock Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Cameron Thomas, Edge, San Diego State

 

The Vikings need to get younger on the defensive line with the uncertainty surrounding Danielle Hunter's future.  Thomas was dominant in rushing the passer in the Mountain West Conference. 

 

The Washington Commanders @Hermesare on the clock...

 

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2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

With the 46th pick in the 2022 TSW Mock Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Cameron Thomas, Edge, San Diego State

 

The Vikings need to get younger on the defensive line with the uncertainty surrounding Danielle Hunter's future.  Thomas was dominant in rushing the passer in the Mountain West Conference. 

 

The Washington Commanders @Hermesare on the clock...

 

 

Awesome pick. He was the other guy I referenced in my Mafe pick. I think he is getting seriously overlooked. Very high floor and still a fair ceiling for additional development. He just doesn't have that explosion you look for which is why I went for the 'toolsy' Mafe. 

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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Awesome pick. He was the other guy I referenced in my Mafe pick. I think he is getting seriously overlooked. Very high floor and still a fair ceiling for additional development. He just doesn't have that explosion you look for which is why I went for the 'toolsy' Mafe. 

I was actually hoping for Mafe to fall to this spot so thanks for that.  I've seen Johnson mocked from the end of the first all the way to the third.  I see some Aaron Schobel in him who was also the 46th pick.

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9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I was actually hoping for Mafe to fall to this spot so thanks for that.  I've seen Johnson mocked from the end of the first all the way to the third.  I see some Aaron Schobel in him who was also the 46th pick.

 

Like the Schobel comp 👍🏻

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With the 47th pick in 2022 TSW mock draft, the Washington Commanders select, Skyy Moore, WR, Western Michigan.  

 

Adding options to the WR room to take some heat off Scary Terry is a high priority after adding Carson Wentz. While we don't believe he's an elite QB, Wentz is better than what we've trotted out since Cousins left and surrounding him with playmakers is imperative to our offensive vision. Skyy Moore adds a weapon in the passing game, he may not have the elite upside as others in the class but he's a solid player who can take advantage of the attention defenses give to McLaurin.

 

The Chicago Bears @Philo are on the clock

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With the 48th pick of the 2022 TSW Mock Draft 1.0, the Chicago Bears select Cole Strange, OG, Chattanooga.

 

After missing out on Ryan "Rick" Bates, the Bears are happy to land an extremely athletic interior linemen with some positional flexibility. Strange has over 40 starts in his collegiate career, most coming at left guard, but has starts at left tackle and center as well. His RAS score is a phenomenal 9.95, which will excite new offensive line coach, Chris Morgan. Morgan was with the Atlanta Falcons when they selected Chris Lindstrom (9.85 RAS) and Kaleb McGary (9.83 RAS) in the first round of the 2019 draft. Under Morgan's tutelage, we are confident that Strange will quickly secure a starting spot on a needy offensive line here in Chicago.  

 

The New Orleans Saints @H2o are on the clock.

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3 minutes ago, Philo said:

With the 48th pick of the 2022 TSW Mock Draft 1.0, the Chicago Bears select Cole Strange, OG, Chattanooga.

 

After missing out on Ryan "Rick" Bates, the Bears are happy to land an extremely athletic interior linemen with some positional flexibility. Strange has over 40 starts in his collegiate career, most coming at left guard, but has starts at left tackle and center as well. His RAS score is a phenomenal 9.95, which will excite new offensive line coach, Chris Morgan. Morgan was with the Atlanta Falcons when they selected Chris Lindstrom (9.85 RAS) and Kaleb McGary (9.83 RAS) in the first round of the 2019 draft. Under Morgan's tutelage, we are confident that Strange will quickly secure a starting spot on a needy offensive line here in Chicago.  

 

The New Orleans Saints @H2o are on the clock.

 

Agree that he definitely fits that "type" with Lindstrom and McGary. Comes down to what type of blocking scheme they wanna run.

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I'm about to go out of the house for a few hours, and it's about to be my pick after H20. Rather than hold everyone up, I sent my pick to @Virgil.

(side note: How does it seem like after waiting around for forever, it always seems to be your pick right when you're about to go out or go to work or go to bed? Like clockwork).

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16 minutes ago, Logic said:

I'm about to go out of the house for a few hours, and it's about to be my pick after H20. Rather than hold everyone up, I sent my pick to @Virgil.

(side note: How does it seem like after waiting around for forever, it always seems to be your pick right when you're about to go out or go to work or go to bed? Like clockwork).

Yeah, I made a pick from the golf course last year!

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38 minutes ago, Logic said:

I'm about to go out of the house for a few hours, and it's about to be my pick after H20. Rather than hold everyone up, I sent my pick to @Virgil.

(side note: How does it seem like after waiting around for forever, it always seems to be your pick right when you're about to go out or go to work or go to bed? Like clockwork).

 

I feel you. I spend all day in front of a computer for work and when it's time for my first pick, I am on my way to a business lunch that was going to take hours. Luckily, I had time to send my pick to Virgil on mobile.

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Sorry everyone.

 

With the 49th pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, the New Orleans Saints select, Travis Jones, DT, UConn.

 

With needs all over the place we go for a man to wreak havoc between Cam Jordan and Marcus Davenport. We love the upside he brings in this defensive system. 

 

@Logic and the Chiefs are on the clock.

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