SCBills Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I like the direction they seem to be taking so far. Klein, Feliciano, Williams (soon to be Beasley) are all decent players for how we used them, but all luxuries we can't really afford to be overpaying anymore with Allen's contract hitting. Now let's see if they turn the page and focus more on elite talent with backfilled draft picks, rather than above average everywhere but lacking difference makers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: I never understood the big contract he got last year, he was solid in 2020 for practically no money. Then gets paid big time for a year and then released. I was expecting a re-structure so this is interesting. Beane felt the same way must be ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 its was said above, but i'll repeat it because that's what it do: there is a big change w cap'n lawnchair (i like him, it's just too funny of a story to let up on). he has a strong idea, knows what results he wants, and likely has the confidence that he can coach guys up to get them where he wants them to be. dabol's upside is his creativity, his downside is he doesn't have a solid "bread and butter" (another term i have beaten half to death). i think w a younger/newer OC and veteran coaches under him and above him, we got a more standardized approach. i think that fits us best since JA17 is the king of off script playmaking, no need to write in too many tricks into your fight plan when you have a heavy weight who can throw 1-2's from 30 different angles at blinding speed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I gotta think you dont make this move unless you know someone is coming to replace him that is better. I mean their interior offensive line right now is Cody Ford, Jacob Capra, and Mitch Morse. Ryan Bates technically hasn't been re-signed. Unless the plan is to move Dawkins inside they have to be signing one or two interior players to deals pretty soon after FA starts Austin Corbett and his ties to Kromer seems to be a guy that we'd pursue yet not sure he's going to be any less than Williams and doesn't offer position versatility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, The Jokeman said: Austin Corbett and his ties to Kromer seems to be a guy that we'd pursue yet not sure he's going to be any less than Williams and doesn't offer position versatility. Roger Saffold would also seem like a guy we could pursue with ties to Kromer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, dje85 said: Roger Saffold would also seem like a guy we could pursue with ties to Kromer. His age might not help him but he's better than what we have now for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: I figured he'd take a pay cut rather than straight cutting him He is probably seeing if he can make more on the open market than the Bills offered with the pay cut. It’s a sound strategy for a guy who could sign as a starting RT or even a swing tackle somewhere. This is the thing about asking a player to take a pay cut. You have to be willing to cut them if they say no, or can’t agree on a new figure. This tells me that Morse is almost certainly staying this season. I can’t see the Bills intentionally going with three new starters on the inside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: They need the money now. Post-June 1 cuts don't reduce the cap until....June 1 Right, but the other moves they could make now as opposed to his release, many of which involve restructuring current players’ contracts, are well documented. Just a little surprised they didn’t do one or multiple of those first. Hey maybe they’re still to come today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, davefan66 said: That’s a lot of turnover if we don’t get them back. Some can go, some need to be resigned. Either way, a lot of money we don’t have just yet. "Did you say turnover?! This team has a proper cafeteria!" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Austin Corbett and his ties to Kromer seems to be a guy that we'd pursue yet not sure he's going to be any less than Williams and doesn't offer position versatility. Dont be surprised if the depth piece is also Austin Blythe OG/OC from the Chiefs. Spent time with Kromer in LA as well. He’d be a Feliciano type signing would be my guess 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Either he wouldn’t take a pay cut, or the new o-line coach doesn’t like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Here ya go. "If the Bills move on from Williams, it could also signal that they would like to use more zone blocking principles. New offensive line coach Aaron Kromer, who most recently worked under Sean McVay with the Rams — an offense known for those principles. A zone blocking scheme favors athleticism ahead of power, needing the linemen to adapt and get to the second-level quickly or move off their spot to protect their area. Unfortunately, these are not Williams’ strengths. He is more of a power blocker with heavier feet than the rest of the offensive line. It’s also not McDermott’s first time hiring someone with a zone-blocking background. His first offensive coordinator hire, Rick Dennison, spent almost his entire career with Mike Shanahan. As a defensive coach, McDermott likely believes those offenses are extremely difficult to defend." And to really drive this point home, take a look at the RAS Scores. Who sticks out here? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: I like the direction they seem to be taking so far. Klein, Feliciano, Williams (soon to be Beasley) are all decent players for how we used them, but all luxuries we can't really afford to be overpaying anymore with Allen's contract hitting. Now let's see if they turn the page and focus more on elite talent with backfilled draft picks, rather than above average everywhere but lacking difference makers. SC, I agree and they are never going to pay an ok G that much $. They have lots of time to restock in FA and the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, george c said: Barkley coming…. To play RG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 27 minutes ago, gobills404 said: Good. $8 million per year made him the 12th highest paid guard in the league. He was decent down the stretch but no way is he worth that money. Meh, 12th highest paid is hovering around average. We got decent production from him. I get we didn’t love the contract. But it wasn’t terrible either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 29 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: Has a large cap figure for average Guard. Probably have a replacement lined up? Yep, getting tackle money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) Why does a pre June 1 release net us less cap savings than a post June 1 release? And what’s the benefit of the Bills doing a pre June 1 cut instead? Edited March 14, 2022 by JaCrispy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Welp thats a surprise. Eating crow right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Why does a pre June 1 release net is less cap savings than a post June 1 release? And what’s the benefit of the Bills doing a pre June 1 cut instead? To get the cap savings now. Otherwise they may have to make other moves to get under the cap when they sign more players 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I find the amount of faith in Brown, and lack of additional cap space to be surprising here. Unless they have a FA in mind already, I don't like the lack of depth this move creates. Williams was good at RG, but also could play RT in a pinch, which happened a few times last season. This is a lot of faith in Brown and creates a starting gap. I don't think his contract was crazy and that's a lot of dead cap space (For Beane). I'm sure there's a plan, I just don't like it initially. I trust the process and Beane saying supporting Josh was their number one offseason priority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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