Hebert19 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Like ever. I know we don't have speed RBs but ***** let a TE or WR seal the edge and give them a chance to do something different. Draw up the gut. Seems like only play we have. My gut tells me we have a lot more josh under Center next week. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Hebert19 said: Like ever. I know we don't have speed RBs but ***** let a TE or WR seal the edge and give them a chance to do something different. Draw up the gut. Seems like only play we have. My gut tells me we have a lot more josh under Center next week. My gut says Daboll will probably ***** this game up too… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 We're a one trick pony, guy......we've been exposed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 1. The o-line can’t block. 2. We have no on fast enough to get to the edge. Edited November 7, 2021 by JDubya76 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) Where are Lil Dirtys Jet Sweeps? or ANY of the concepts from last year’s juggernaut offense? Edited November 7, 2021 by MAJBobby 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 Seriously though. Since moss and Singletary aren't that fast wouldn't you rather have them run with a head of steam rather than out of shotgun non stop? I think Josh under Center is a potential answer and Play action may be more effective Just now, MAJBobby said: Where are Lil Dirtys Jet Sweeps? This too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Ive also been wondering where the sweeps have gone. Also Why do we never do reverses? Is that a little too "80s" for Daboll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Where are Lil Dirtys Jet Sweeps? or ANY of the concepts from last year’s juggernaut offense? The way our tackles played today, I don't even think he would have been able to get to the edge.🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: The way our tackles played today, I don't even think he would have been able to get to the edge.🙄 Where have they been All year? the Bills took an offensive weapon and made him a ST only player. Edited November 8, 2021 by MAJBobby 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Like ever. I know we don't have speed RBs but ***** let a TE or WR seal the edge and give them a chance to do something different. Draw up the gut. Seems like only play we have. My gut tells me we have a lot more josh under Center next week. You already have the answer in your post. RBs don't have speed. They don't have a TE that can seal the edge and only one OT that can possibly reach block someone. Maybe you can run it one or twice a game for yuks but that's about it. Edited November 8, 2021 by vincec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, vincec said: You already have the answer in your post. RBs don't have speed. They don't have a TE that can seal the edge and only one OT that can possibly reach block someone. Maybe you can run it one or twice a game for yuks but that's about it. Agree so suit up brieda or at least try it to make the D think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, MAJBobby said: Where have they been All year? the Bills took an offensive weapon and made him a ST only player. I am a BIG Mckensie fan. I agree he should be used much more on O. I think Daboll has lost his way. I think McDermott needs to pull a Gibbs and smack him on the back of the head. (NCIS reference)😉. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, JDubya76 said: 1. The o-line can’t block. 2. We have no on fast enough to get to the edge. Breida runs in the 4.4s he is plenty fast enough to get there Edited November 8, 2021 by Big Turk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, LyndonvilleBill said: I am a BIG Mckensie fan. I agree he should be used much more on O. I think Daboll has lost his way. I think McDermott needs to pull a Gibbs and smack him on the back of the head. (NCIS reference)😉. Or is this the new Bills offense McD wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: Breida runs in the 4.4s he is plenty fat enough to get there That’s hard to do if you don’t dress him Edited November 8, 2021 by JDubya76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Where are Lil Dirtys Jet Sweeps? or ANY of the concepts from last year’s juggernaut offense? been waiting for those all year. He was the only guy too today that seemed to show up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Because we wait to draft RB post 2nd round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, Pete said: Because we wait to draft RB post 2nd round That’s where you should draft RBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, JDubya76 said: That’s hard to do if you don’t dress him My point exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Or is this the new Bills offense McD wanted. No. I think McDermott being a defensive minded coach, he just lets Daboll do his thing and has too much trust in him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: That’s where you should draft RBs That’s worked so well for us. I just watched GB run for first down on 3rd and 6. When was the last time we had a rb run for first down 3rd and 6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Pete said: That’s worked so well for us. I just watched GB run for first down on 3rd and 6. When was the last time we had a rb run for first down 3rd and 6? I wish we had GB OL. Was the run from that 5th round RB Jones? Edited November 8, 2021 by MAJBobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, MAJBobby said: I wish we had GB OL Same here. They are missing best LT in game, and still kick ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 They try and run outside zone at least once or twice a game and our guys just don’t have the skill for it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 39 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Like ever. I know we don't have speed RBs but ***** let a TE or WR seal the edge and give them a chance to do something different. Draw up the gut. Seems like only play we have. My gut tells me we have a lot more josh under Center next week. Brieda is one of the fastest RB's in the league. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2019/REG/all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 47 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Like ever. I know we don't have speed RBs but ***** let a TE or WR seal the edge and give them a chance to do something different. Draw up the gut. Seems like only play we have. My gut tells me we have a lot more josh under Center next week. We pretty conclusively showed last season that we simply don’t have the speed at RB to get outside 5 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Brieda is one of the fastest RB's in the league. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2019/REG/all He is, and they tried him in the Steelers game and he got 4 yds on 4 carries. So either he’s lost a step or they concluded the rest of the ingredients he needs weren’t there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: We pretty conclusively showed last season that we simply don’t have the speed at RB to get outside Thus why we signed brieda yet he never plays. May not be a choice next week however is moss is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, Hebert19 said: Thus why we signed brieda yet he never plays. May not be a choice next week however is moss is out. I was thinking that same - do we know yet how serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 48 minutes ago, JDubya76 said: 1. The o-line can’t block. 2. We have no on fast enough to get to the edge. ....winning answer....end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 They are probably not using McKenzie on the jet sweeps to minimize injury risk to him since he is the returner with no other real option at that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Andy1 said: They are probably not using McKenzie on the jet sweeps to minimize injury risk to him since he is the returner with no other real option at that position. For a team who is obsessed with special teams this is a ***** answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I loved those JA power sweeps we used to run! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I was thinking that same - do we know yet how serious? Not sure we can know how serious if he is "in the protocol". He finishes when the docs say he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I’d like to see more Dawson Knox runs but unfortunately he’s injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marky Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Don't run to the perimeter in the NFL. 300lbs can chase you down and speedy corners can pile drive you into oblivion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Probably because Singletary and Moss might take all afternoon to make it to the outside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I'd like to see Singletary actually get 15 plus carries a game. He has averaged 3.6 ypc on first and then 6.8 ypc on 2nd down. He does not have one single carry on 3rd or 4th down. He has ripped off a 10 plus yard run in in 5 of our 8 games even though he had 7 or less carries in half our games. As far as running to the corners I'd have to say if you have 4 wr's out there all the time you likely have defenders out there with them. If we had 2 wr's and 2 te's we'd probably have more defenders in the middle of the field and some chance of sealing the edge and getting to the outside. With all the safety over the top coverage it also would make it hard to break a longer run outside because the safeties aren't in the box to get sucked up in the blocking. If our line could block in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Our backs have no speed. We may have the worst RB core in the league. We also have guards that cant pull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Hebert19 said: Thus why we signed brieda yet he never plays. May not be a choice next week however is moss is out. With Moss hurt maybe we see him? Is this 2 concussions in 2 years for Moss and didn’t he have these problems at Oregon?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I was about to say our backs are too slow, but I rewatched motor's rookie highlights and pretty much all his best runs were to the outside. And despite their woes this season, the bills still have some really good athletes on the offensive line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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