BADOLBILZ Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, eball said: Serious question...why are you such an arsehole? Beaten up a lot in high school? Abusive parents? Teenage acne that never healed? Micropenis? You've got issues, man. See what I mean.........just searching for random insults to dehumanize someone who just has no tolerance for your whining about a resilient and loyal fanbase. "Oh poor me........ I can't go to the playoff games because I gave up my season tickets in frustration when Sean McDermott was hired😢.....and also because somehow after growing up in WNY and after 27 years of having seasons I also don't have any friends who can help me out". Why do you think people would empathize with you for that? Just maybe not having tickets and friends or being able to deal with TSW after a loss is on you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: That's nice of you to not call out @eball...........but he literally started a thread about it. Talk about a waste of time and trash to sift thru.........people are always going to have criticisms of the team when they lose anything but a meaningless game.........this thread is complaining for the sake of complaining. I think this thread suggests it certainly isn't a 1 person problem. And the irony is some of these people are the exact ones who accuse the people they term as "haters" of only appearing after a loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 No I find that the discussion here often times helps me decompress and feel better about the loss. Reading the forum over the last week I no longer feel that the loss was an autopsy report on our whole season, which is kind of how I felt right after the game ended. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I tend to avoid it after big, easy wins, b/c that's when the kool aid drinkers come out, ridiculous predictions start flying, and it's just generally better to avoid. For some reason, as I've said for years, your average 2BD member is a kool aid drinker type who simply wants to cheer on the team as part of a booster club culture. I just want objective analysis of what's going on with the team, if that's bad news, so be it. Those are 2 very different purposes. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I don't 'avoid' it, but it is frustrating. I usually tend to look at an outcome of any situation/situations and think of things in an "Occam's razor" type of way. In the Bills loss to the Steelers, to me that meant simply "the Offensive line is bad and they played bad". All other outcomes result from that point, as that is the dominant point. The "Josh had a terrible game and has regressed", the "Dabol should be demoted", "run Singletary a lot more", all those other explanations can seem like there is something behind them, but they may or may not even be the answer. Of course, this is a message board, if we all agreed on the primary reason for a loss and there was no discussion, it would be a boring place and I would avoid it even more for lack of ANY discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: See what I mean.........just searching for random insults to dehumanize someone who just has no tolerance for your whining about a resilient and loyal fanbase. "Oh poor me........ I can't go to the playoff games because I gave up my season tickets in frustration when Sean McDermott was hired😢.....and also because somehow after growing up in WNY and after 27 years of having seasons I also don't have any friends who can help me out". Why do you think people would empathize with you for that? Just maybe not having tickets and friends or being able to deal with TSW after a loss is on you. You didn't answer my question. Really, I'd like to know what transpired during the years of your cognitive development that caused you to be this way, to the point where you basically stalk me in posts to insult my fandom. Like I said, you've got issues, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 23 hours ago, Klaus said: Is the pope catholic? *not that I participate much to begin with I don't know man. I've known the guy for years but we have a rule never to discuss religion or politics. I can tell you that he has the world's lousiest love life. Not too good with the ladies, that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 4:09 PM, eball said: Particularly now that the Bills are a good team, I find myself participating much less frequently on the board during the week after a loss. I lurk but post much less. The threads get ridiculous (well, even more ridiculous) and it's exhausting. Is it just me? I just take a day. Usually the insane doom and gloom is over after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I’ll take a peek on a Monday following a loss but generally don’t participate in any discussion or anything. I’ll avoid articles and highlights and stuff until later in the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboticus Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I did not listen to any post-game shows, no radio coverage and no visits to TBD at all this week till now. Saw this thread and had to post. No you are not alone. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, eball said: You didn't answer my question. Really, I'd like to know what transpired during the years of your cognitive development that caused you to be this way, to the point where you basically stalk me in posts to insult my fandom. Like I said, you've got issues, dude. What made me so inclined have little tolerance for self loathing types like yourself? I guess a good upbringing, great life-long friendships, a happy marriage, large family of great kids, perspective and experience gained from hard work, loyalty and generosity? The first step of getting out of your wallow is to want to. But in the meantime keep trying to get everyone else to change instead........good luck with that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 @BADOLBILZ…the day you stop stalking me on this board to insult my fandom is the day I believe you’re a happy, well adjusted individual. But the truth is I believe you’re just a typical internet message board bully trying to find importance in putting others down. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: What made me so inclined have little tolerance for self loathing types like yourself? I guess a good upbringing, great life-long friendships, a happy marriage, large family of great kids, perspective and experience gained from hard work, loyalty and generosity? The first step of getting out of your wallow is to want to. But in the meantime keep trying to get everyone else to change instead........good luck with that. 36 minutes ago, eball said: @BADOLBILZ…the day you stop stalking me on this board to insult my fandom is the day I believe you’re a happy, well adjusted individual. But the truth is I believe you’re just a typical internet message board bully trying to find importance in putting others down. Sad. Any chance I can get you guys to chill? You’re both long standing, excellent contributors here, but this is crossing every line of civility. Please don’t make me do my job. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) On 9/16/2021 at 1:09 PM, eball said: Particularly now that the Bills are a good team, I find myself participating much less frequently on the board during the week after a loss. I lurk but post much less. The threads get ridiculous (well, even more ridiculous) and it's exhausting. Is it just me? Not just you. This is my first time on since the game. Don’t have time for the doom and gloom. The loss is bad enough. Don’t need the lack of reason that comes right after a loss. Edited September 17, 2021 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I go into a self-imposed quarantine from this site until Friday after losses. I also avoid you tube. I know what I saw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epictetus Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) I usually wait until Wednesday or Thursday, win or lose, to avoid the hot takes and internecine warfare between posters. I am mainly interested in why the Bills won or lost. I am especially interested in the bad news associated with the wins and he good news associated with the losses. I seek out the comments of thoswho seem to know what they are talking about (&GunnerBill. et alia) and those who actually watched the game ( &Virgil et alia). I avoid looking at ESPN and most of the national media, but I do that anyway, so it is not relevant to this thread. The Buffalo Bills have been my one and only NFL team since 1960. I would not disown the Bills for one bad game or one bad year any more than I would disown one of my children for one bad report card. Yes, it is important to recognize where improvement is required, but one must realize the limitations of being a fan. I can care all I want, but I am not the owner, GM, or coaching staff who make all the decisions (good or bad) for the team. Edited September 19, 2021 by Epictetus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Only after the Texans loss did I avoid this place / sports center, football in general .. for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 It’s takes me till Wednesday morning to get over a loss. I get very down, can’t listen to any pundits talking about the game. My wife has been a much better fan since we’ve gotten better, ( since McDermott came to Buffalo 🦬) so I try and be a good sport around the house. But I’m such a sore loser the loses kill me especially since we have high aspirations 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Epictetus said: I usually wait until Wednesday or Thursday, win or lose, to avoid the hot takes and internecine warfare between posters. I am mainly interested in why the Bills won or lost. I am especially interested in the bad news associated with the wins and he good news associated with the losses. I seek out the comments of thoswho seem to know what they are talking about (&GunnerBill et alia) and those who actually watched the game (&Virgil et alia). I avoid looking at ESPN and most of the national media, but I do that anyway, so it is not relevant to this thread. The Buffalo Bills have been my one and only NFL team since 1960. I would not disown the Bills for one bad game or one bad year any more than I would disown one of my children for one bad report card. Yes, it is important to recognize where improvement is required, but one must realize the limitations of being a fan. I can care all I want, but I am not the owner, GM, or coaching staff who make all the decisions (good or bad) for the team. Post more, old timer! We have an eclectic group of AFL folks here. We had diapers made!👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Yeah for sure. Also stay away from game threads, seems to be where people with an agenda go to fish and where you leave any measure of emotional stability at the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieldGeneral Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Before Bob Matthews' sports show was taken off the air, I always listened to it during the season. Whenever the Bills lost, I'd avoid it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 4:13 PM, Devilmann said: Nope not at all. Losses bring out all the doom and gloom people that want to be nothing but negative about every little thing. Well, except in Week 1, there was NADA to be positive about! * Not 2019 Josh * Not a Fiddy Cent O Line * Not some Stone Handed WRs * Not the idiot Punter * Not a terrible Game Plan from Dumball * Not some curious at best, 4th. Down decisions from McClapper! After the Opening KO, it was downhill... continuously. Who didn’t see that? Having seen all of it, I have moved on to the Fish. If it’s a repeat, then Houston we got a BIG problem! I don’t expect it to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 53 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said: Well, except in Week 1, there was NADA to be positive about! * Not 2019 Josh * Not a Fiddy Cent O Line * Not some Stone Handed WRs * Not the idiot Punter * Not a terrible Game Plan from Dumball * Not some curious at best, 4th. Down decisions from McClapper! After the Opening KO, it was downhill... continuously. Who didn’t see that? Having seen all of it, I have moved on to the Fish. If it’s a repeat, then Houston we got a BIG problem! I don’t expect it to be! I agree. If the season isn’t won or lost in Week One…it sure as heck isn’t won at the Draft, in OTAs, Camp, or Preseason. The lights are on, the curtain is up, the audience is in their seats. It’s show time… Let’s go already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 18 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I tend to avoid it after big, easy wins, b/c that's when the kool aid drinkers come out, ridiculous predictions start flying, and it's just generally better to avoid. For some reason, as I've said for years, your average 2BD member is a kool aid drinker type who simply wants to cheer on the team as part of a booster club culture. I just want objective analysis of what's going on with the team, if that's bad news, so be it. Those are 2 very different purposes. I think the "reason" is pretty obvious. This is a fan forum. Fan is short for fanatic. I don't blame anyone for having a really subjective and emotional style of fandom. That isn't my style of fandom but I understand why it is for many people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 And miss all the fun?! Reminds me of Yankee fans after a loss. And I'm a Yankee fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I personally enjoy seeing that my takes aren't too hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 20 hours ago, Epictetus said: I usually wait until Wednesday or Thursday, win or lose, to avoid the hot takes and internecine warfare between posters. I am mainly interested in why the Bills won or lost. I am especially interested in the bad news associated with the wins and he good news associated with the losses. I seek out the comments of thoswho seem to know what they are talking about (&GunnerBill et alia) and those who actually watched the game (&Virgil et alia). I avoid looking at ESPN and most of the national media, but I do that anyway, so it is not relevant to this thread. The Buffalo Bills have been my one and only NFL team since 1960. I would not disown the Bills for one bad game or one bad year any more than I would disown one of my children for one bad report card. Yes, it is important to recognize where improvement is required, but one must realize the limitations of being a fan. I can care all I want, but I am not the owner, GM, or coaching staff who make all the decisions (good or bad) for the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 For me it’s an issue of over the top doomism, it’s so bad it rivals the GDT, if one wants to critique a specific aspect of say, a coaching skill, most will take the comments on just the game played as a wholesale condemnation of the entire team top to bottom, instead of what was actually in print, I stated that I believe Dabol is very inflexible in his ability to make changes quickly to stop doing what is not working, and several of my fellow fans grabbed it and ran for the mountains so to speak, ya just can’t have a civilized discussion about a specific failing that happened in just one game without folk getting crazy 😜, it’s not that I’m not without my faults, as many of you well know, I can be a bit dick-ish and I apologize to all of those that I do that to, so let’s all try to not take our fellow fans remarks out of context, and at the same time we should all try not to make silly statements that make others crazy, like how I get 😁👍 this could very well make this awesome site all the better! Jmo…, Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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