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6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I don't even know how to respond to these types of threads anymore. Sucks. 

 

Is it really that hard? 

 

Focus on the Football aspect of the topic, and stay away from playing Epidemiologist, Virologist, Covid Transmission Expert, and Political Scientist.

 

I'll give it a try: since the NFLPA has already requested daily testing of vaccinated players, is it reasonable to assume that the majority of their members, who are majority vaccinated, are in favor of this, and would have no problem testing more frequently?

 

If that's the case, then I don't understand why the NFL doesn't throw the NFLPA a bone and go with the daily testing for all that the NFLPA requested.  Are they baulking at the expense, or what?

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1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Is it really that hard? 

 

Focus on the Football aspect of the topic, and stay away from playing Epidemiologist, Virologist, Covid Transmission Expert, and Political Scientist.

 

I'll give it a try: since the NFLPA has already requested daily testing of vaccinated players, is it reasonable to assume that the majority of their members, who are majority vaccinated, are in favor of this, and would have no problem testing more frequently?

 

If that's the case, then I don't understand why the NFL doesn't throw the NFLPA a bone and go with daily testing for all.

If that tweet saying they're pushing for mandatory vaccinations is true maybe it's negotiations?

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12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Is it really that hard? 

 

Focus on the Football aspect of the topic, and stay away from playing Epidemiologist, Virologist, Covid Transmission Expert, and Political Scientist.

 

I'll give it a try: since the NFLPA has already requested daily testing of vaccinated players, is it reasonable to assume that the majority of their members, who are majority vaccinated, are in favor of this, and would have no problem testing more frequently?

 

If that's the case, then I don't understand why the NFL doesn't throw the NFLPA a bone and go with the daily testing for all that the NFLPA requested.  Are they baulking at the expense, or what?

 

12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Wouldn't going to everyday testing for vaxxed personnel be a sign their protocols are a failure? NFL hates being wrong. 

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I don’t want to say too much, but let’s just put it this way. This season could become very complicated, especially if testing vaxxed players takes place. Last season was nothing short of a miracle, which could happen again, but I just hope for the best. 

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If the league want the season to play out with minimal disruptions, they should be testing everyone as much as possible, find the positives as soon as possible and isolate them from the rest of the team. It’s that simple. 2 weeks between tests for vaxed players is nuts.

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1 minute ago, Andy1 said:

If the league want the season to play out with minimal disruptions, they should be testing everyone as much as possible, find the positives as soon as possible and isolate them from the rest of the team. It’s that simple. 2 weeks between tests for vaxed players is nuts.

It's the only way. 

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34 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I don’t want to say too much, but let’s just put it this way. This season could become very complicated, especially if testing vaxxed players takes place. Last season was nothing short of a miracle, which could happen again, but I just hope for the best. 

 

I think the season will become very complicated if they don't test vaxxed players and staff.  We just saw why.

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46 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Also of interest:

 

 

So Pelissaro threw out some other stuff:

 

 

 

Since they are testing unvaccinated players 14x more often than vaccinated players unless the latter have symptoms, are they actually identifying all the Covid cases among vaccinated players and staff?   Seems to me the right thing is to find out, by more testing.

 

 

 

 

 

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It has been some break through cases but the % is still fairly low from what I understand. But the extra booster shot that will be available soon should help 


Will be interesting to see how many players who got the initial vax, will keep getting boosters.   
 

I wouldn’t assume everyone who’s currently vaxxed will automatically do that. 

A hypothetical, not related to your post, but just in general:

 

Lets say everyone on our team is fully vaxxed.  Let’s say they test once per week.  Let’s say Josh Allen is around a covid positive person on Day 5 of the 7 day testing window.  Josh Allen develops mild symptoms and misses a week of practice and a game.   That could’ve been avoided by daily testing.  Simply vaxxing everyone doesn’t solve that. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, Ramza86 said:

Delta is piercing through this vax. I suggest they test as much as they did last year.

 
I just don’t get it? Shouldn’t everyone get tested vaxed or unvaxxed as they both  pos e a risk of transmitting? I’m confused, someone help please. 

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3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Is this a Cole Beasley burner 

 
Not at all, serous question.  It was posed today at work. Isn’t it being transmitted by both vaxxed and unvaxxed? My boss was perplexed and so was the health department. Honest question. Wouldn’t it make sense to test everyone to keep everyone safe and not transmit?

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think the season will become very complicated if they don't test vaxxed players and staff.  We just saw why.

You’re correct, I was just looking at from more of a literal prospective commenting on an increase of rules and regulations, as opposed to a scientific outlook. I think many of us had a dream the 2021 could take place with fewer precautions, testing, and the like post vaccine. I understand why, and it is what it is, you just hope your team isn’t impacted greatly. The NFL did a great last season, we’ll see what happens this year. 

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1 hour ago, wppete said:

 
Not at all, serous question.  It was posed today at work. Isn’t it being transmitted by both vaxxed and unvaxxed? My boss was perplexed and so was the health department. Honest question. 

I mean the more testing you do the safer you're going to be that's kind of self evident. Even if everyone got vaccinated it'd still be safer testing everyone daily.

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1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

I mean the more testing you do the safer your going to be that's kind of self evident. I mean even if everyone got vaccinated it'd still be safer testing everyone daily.


That definitely seems to be the logical thing to do. 

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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

 

Wouldn't going to everyday testing for vaxxed personnel be a sign their protocols are a failure? NFL hates being wrong. 

Actually they love being wrong. Otherwise how would Riveron have been employed for soo long.

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51 minutes ago, wppete said:

He’s not wrong at this point. 

 

He is wrong about a lot, and no point in rehashing - evvybuddy already got out their views in several threads and not gonna agree.

 

But Beasley does have valid points that unvaccinated players can not be adequately protected from infection by Delta with vaccinated players and staff tested once every 14 days and not required to mask indoors, and it sounds like the NFL has taken a first step towards changing that.

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1 hour ago, wppete said:

 
Not at all, serous question.  It was posed today at work. Isn’t it being transmitted by both vaxxed and unvaxxed? My boss was perplexed and so was the health department. Honest question. Wouldn’t it make sense to test everyone to keep everyone safe and not transmit?

 

 

The NFL used not getting tested every day as an incentive for players to get vaccinated.  I don't see how they go back on that now as there's going to be a lot of ticked off players.

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It needs to happen. It's two weeks right now, right? A player could contract COVID, have mild symptoms, and completely recover within two weeks, all between tests.

 

The Titans are like 97% vaccinated, right? And they just had an outbreak because, as they surmise, vaccinated players went out for dinner before a game.

 

Unfortunately, it just seems like the smartest thing to do is to go back to last year's protocols for everyone, just to be safe.

 

(I tried to keep this completely football related and I am not bashing anyone or anything related to COVID. Hope my comment is not out of line. Despite the constant warnings from mods on the board, I'm still fuzzy on what's allowed to say and what's not. That's why I usually do not comment on COVID related threads at all, recently)

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

The NFL used not getting tested every day as an incentive for players to get vaccinated.  I don't see how they go back on that now as there's going to be a lot of ticked off players.

Things have changed. I hope the NFL tries to do the right thing instead of worrying about players being unhappy. Pandemics just aren't happy things. Nobody is happy about it.

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3 minutes ago, MJS said:

 

Things have changed. I hope the NFL tries to do the right thing instead of worrying about players being unhappy. Pandemics just aren't happy things. Nobody is happy about it.

 

This, exactly. The situation changed so the rules have to change. Very frequent testing for all provides the highest safety margin. The vaccinated are less likely to transmit it, but not so much less likely that it is worth not testing them more often than 1/week. The testing is uncomfortable but let's face it these guys can deal with a lot of uncomfortable things for their job.

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