C.Biscuit97 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Yikes. Prayers to the child. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kshb.com/sports/road-to-repeat/chiefs-assistant-coach-hurt-in-i-435-crash-that-injured-2-children-1-severely%3f_amp=true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Yikes. Prayers to the child. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kshb.com/sports/road-to-repeat/chiefs-assistant-coach-hurt-in-i-435-crash-that-injured-2-children-1-severely%3f_amp=true Oof. Saw this a few minutes ago and saw "OLB coach" and thought "hm, wonder if this is a distraction for the team. hard situation." had no idea it was Reid's son... Hope the Children are okay. Drunk drivers aren't punished enough in this country. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 His first son died of a heroin overdose 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Yikes. Prayers to the child. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kshb.com/sports/road-to-repeat/chiefs-assistant-coach-hurt-in-i-435-crash-that-injured-2-children-1-severely%3f_amp=true Ugh. "Chiefs assistant admits in warrant to drinking before I-435 crash that hurt 2 children, 1 severely". Not what one wants to see happen, to have one of your assistant coaches severely injure a child while breaking the law. It must feel a bit deja vu for Andy: https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/garrett-reid-drug-history-eagles-coach-andy-reid/2105496/ "In 2007, Garrett admitted he was high on heroin when he crashed into another car, injuring the driver. Coincidentally, that same morning, his brother Britt pointed a gun at another driver during a road rage incident." (Garret Reid lost his battle with heroin addiction 8 years ago: "Reid's son Garrett "died from an accidental heroin overdose" on Aug. 5, 2012." 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Prayers for the five year old and family. Without commenting specifically on Reid, I’ll just share my opinion that driving after having even one adult beverage is astoundingly selfish. 10 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Ugh. "Chiefs assistant admits in warrant to drinking before I-435 crash that hurt 2 children, 1 severely". Not what one wants to see happen, to have one of your assistant coaches severely injure a child while breaking the law. It must feel a bit deja vu for Andy: https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/garrett-reid-drug-history-eagles-coach-andy-reid/2105496/ "In 2007, Garrett admitted he was high on heroin when he crashed into another car, injuring the driver. Coincidentally, that same morning, his brother Britt pointed a gun at another driver during a road rage incident." (Garret Reid lost his battle with heroin addiction 8 years ago: "Reid's son Garrett "died from an accidental heroin overdose" on Aug. 5, 2012." Yikes. Rough family situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Sad story. I'm sad for Reid, I'm sad for the families affected, I'm sad for everyone. Just terrible news. Really puts the game way down the list. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) These are the type of things that make it so hard to root for the NFL. If Buffalo didn’t have a team, I couldn’t do it. It seems like women and children are constant collateral damage to the lifestyle of NFL players and coaches. Maybe the NFL should be like a normal employer, and not allow hires with extensive criminal backgrounds on a coaching staff. Edited February 6, 2021 by SirAndrew 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: These are the type of things that make it so hard to root for the NFL. If Buffalo didn’t have a team, I couldn’t do it. It seems like women and children are constant collateral damage to the lifestyle of NFL players and coaches. Ok, but this situation doesn't really have anything to do with the NFL. This kind of thing happens all the time to people outside the NFL. People driving impaired is a part of life. They are selfish and stupid. The fact that this particular selfish and stupid person happens to work in the NFL is not relevant to me. If he worked for Burger King we wouldn't even know about this incident. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 personal story on the topic. When me and my ex wife were going to the store one night we were rear ended by a drunk driver with no insurance. My then wife was 6 1/2 months pregnant. The accident caused am abruption which was the separation of the placenta from the uterus. Causing her to go into labor and my son being born premature we was under 3 lbs and was i the hospital for 2 1/2 months. We got lucky my son is now 22 years old but seeing his heart stop and having to be shaken by nurses to restarted and the lungs nit being fully formed and him stopping breathing randomly was really scary. I get sometimes good people make mistakes but the last thing you want is to have to live with killing someones child cause you thought you could handle a few drinks and drive. Sorry not really football or Bills related but i have very strong feelings in drinking and driving 12 4 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, MJS said: Ok, but this situation doesn't really have anything to do with the NFL. This kind of thing happens all the time to people outside the NFL. People driving impaired is a part of life. They are selfish and stupid. The fact that this particular selfish and stupid person happens to work in the NFL is not relevant to me. If he worked for Burger King we wouldn't even know about this incident. I agree, but it looks bad for the league imo. The guy has two DUI’s already, a road rage charge, and a drug charge for possessing a bunch of painkillers. The history is there, but he was allowed to be hired for nepotism sake. This dude already injured a motorcyclist years ago. An assistant NFL coach is like an administrative position in the real world. I don’t think too many companies would want to take a chance on that guy. I agree, this could happen with anyone regardless of workplace, but the NFL continues to allow drug addicts, and domestic violence offenders to keep being part of the league. You can’t stop everything from happening, but when you employ so many people with historic issues, more problems will occur. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 27 minutes ago, Success said: Sad story. I'm sad for Reid, I'm sad for the families affected, I'm sad for everyone. Just terrible news. Really puts the game way down the list. You are very correct, it’s a terrible time for their family, 🙏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I agree, but it looks bad for the league imo. The guy has two DUI’s already, a road rage charge, and a drug charge for possessing a bunch of painkillers. The history is there, but he was allowed to be hired for nepotism sake. This dude already injured a motorcyclist years ago. An assistant NFL coach is like an administrative position in the real world. I don’t think too many companies would want to take a chance on that guy. I agree, this could happen with anyone regardless of workplace, but the NFL continues to allow drug addicts, and domestic violence offenders to keep being part of the league. You can’t stop everything from happening, but when you employ so many people with historic issues, more problems will occur. Blame the Chiefs not the NFL on this one. Just another reason to hate the Chiefs. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Blame the Chiefs not the NFL on this one. Just another reason to hate the Chiefs. I agree, but I also think the NFL needs to raise their standards. I’m not sure how the specifics of that would work, but guys like this, and the Antonio Brown’s (yes, I realize he’s a far different scenario) of the world don’t need a thousand chances. Edited February 6, 2021 by SirAndrew 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, SirAndrew said: I agree, but it looks bad for the league imo. The guy has two DUI’s already, a road rage charge, and a drug charge for possessing a bunch of painkillers. The history is there, but he was allowed to be hired for nepotism sake. This dude already injured a motorcyclist years ago. An assistant NFL coach is like an administrative position in the real world. I don’t think too many companies would want to take a chance on that guy. I agree, this could happen with anyone regardless of workplace, but the NFL continues to allow drug addicts, and domestic violence offenders to keep being part of the league. You can’t stop everything from happening, but when you employ so many people with historic issues, more problems will occur. You do realize that the rate of arrest is actually lower in the NFL than the general population, right (for players, at least, and most likely coaches too)? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nfl-arrests-study-idUSKCN0QU2EL20150825 https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/26/us/nfl-players-arrests-study/index.html Not saying that the NFL is full of angels, but we only hear about these things because of intense scrutiny. It overshadows all the players and coaches who don't have these issues. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, Whkfc said: personal story on the topic. When me and my ex wife were going to the store one night we were rear ended by a drunk driver with no insurance. My then wife was 6 1/2 months pregnant. The accident caused am abruption which was the separation of the placenta from the uterus. Causing her to go into labor and my son being born premature we was under 3 lbs and was i the hospital for 2 1/2 months. We got lucky my son is now 22 years old but seeing his heart stop and having to be shaken by nurses to restarted and the lungs nit being fully formed and him stopping breathing randomly was really scary. I get sometimes good people make mistakes but the last thing you want is to have to live with killing someones child cause you thought you could handle a few drinks and drive. Sorry not really football or Bills related but i have very strong feelings in drinking and driving Old lady decided stop signs only applied if you actually saw them, wife was 8months at the time. Thank God she and baby was okay, but I didn't know it was possible to feel fear that way. Glad your son and wife were well after that. That kind of thing will make a man out of you. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, MJS said: You do realize that the rate of arrest is actually lower in the NFL than the general population, right (for players, at least, and most likely coaches too)? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nfl-arrests-study-idUSKCN0QU2EL20150825 https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/26/us/nfl-players-arrests-study/index.html Not saying that the NFL is full of angels, but we only hear about these things because of intense scrutiny. It overshadows all the players and coaches who don't have these issues. The scrutiny definitely plays a huge role. We don’t hear where the average Joe works when he gets arrested, but that isn’t the point. I consider the NFL a privilege. It’s the highest level of success a football player or coach can reach in his profession. I’d consider that a good job. How many good jobs can someone with DUI’s, drug offenses, and road rage charges get ? I know it’s possible to find work, but many employers aren’t going to hire that guy. I don’t understand why the NFL is different. I know if I had Reid’s record, I wouldn’t have a job right now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, MJS said: You do realize that the rate of arrest is actually lower in the NFL than the general population, right (for players, at least, and most likely coaches too)? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nfl-arrests-study-idUSKCN0QU2EL20150825 https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/26/us/nfl-players-arrests-study/index.html Not saying that the NFL is full of angels, but we only hear about these things because of intense scrutiny. It overshadows all the players and coaches who don't have these issues. I understand what your saying and you aren't wrong. Though when one individual has all these charges I thinks it's time to say "thanks but no thanks". Josh Gordon was banned for less. Not saying let Gordon back in, but I definitely wouldn't want this bad decision maker working for my franchise. Maybe I'm the crazy one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Reid lost one son to overdose when in Philadelphia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I feel very badly for everyone involved here. This is truly tragic, especially when a child is involved. There are no winners here, only losers.....some more than others. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Blame the Chiefs not the NFL on this one. Just another reason to hate the Chiefs. I forget. What are the other reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Looking at his career does raise the question of nepotism he's worked a grand total of 3 years at two places where his dad wasn't the coach. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Reid lost one son to overdose when in Philadelphia Yes, and some people blamed Reid for being obsessed with his job rather than his family (even though that son also worked for the team). My word of advice to those people is do not judge from 30,000 feet. Nobody has any idea what was going on inside those relationships. To make the leap to judging is an error. This is tragic in so many ways...... . Edited February 6, 2021 by Augie 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: I forget. What are the other reasons? Besides Tyreek Hill? And we all have our own reasons I guess. But I'm not too happy with them from the AFC chip game a couple weeks ago. They will most likely be the Bills main rival for the next 5 years or more too. Im jumping on the hate bandwagon early I guess. But yeah I can't stand them. Edited February 6, 2021 by Bferra13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: I forget. What are the other reasons? Tyreek Hill? Frank Clark? Kareem Hunt? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I don't think dragging every KC player in this conversation is worth while. Focusing on what's going on now is simply this isn't a first offense, the NFL had red lights and sirens in front of them. They suspended a linebacker for insider trading on the stock market one time 🤣. Somehow this guy has a job. How? Find that out and fix it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Augie said: I feel very badly for everyone involved here. This is truly tragic, especially when a child is involved. There are no winners here, only losers.....some more than others. Well, fair to feel bad for all here, I guess, but why so much for Britt Reid? What he did was negligent, criminal, with a long history with driving while impaired. Not deserving of any kind of compassion. A shame that such a good coach like Reid was such a poor father when it came to raising his sons. One son, Barrett, dead because of substance abuse, and now Britt recklessly living his life without regard for the lives of others or himself. Seems like they were rich privileged kids raised without proper guidance or guardrails. You'd think a man seemingly capable of being a great leader of men would be able to lead his own kids to a stable, happy adulthood. Edited February 6, 2021 by Mister Defense 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: I don't think dragging every KC player in this conversation is worth while. Focusing on what's going on now is simply this isn't a first offense, the NFL had red lights and sirens in front of them. They suspended a linebacker for insider trading on the stock market one time 🤣. Somehow this guy has a job. How? Find that out and fix it. Someone asked for reasons to dislike the Chiefs. And Britt Reid has a job, much like the aforementioned players, because Andy Reid hired him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Someone asked for reasons to dislike the Chiefs. And Britt Reid has a job, much like the aforementioned players, because Andy Reid hired him. I didn't catch the question. And yes I am aware it's because of Andy, the question was rhetorical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, Mister Defense said: Well, fair to feel bad for all here, I guess, but why so much for Britt Reid? What he did was negligent, criminal, with a long history with driving while impaired. Not deserving of any kind of compassion. A shame that such a good coach like Reid was such a poor father when it came to raising his sons. One son, Barrett, dead because of substance abuse, and now Britt recklessly living his life without regard for the lives of others or himself. Seems like they were rich privileged kids raised without proper guidance or guardrails. You'd think a man seemingly capable of being a great leader of men would be able to lead his own kids to a stable, happy adulthood. What a sad state of affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: I don't think dragging every KC player in this conversation is worth while. Focusing on what's going on now is simply this isn't a first offense, the NFL had red lights and sirens in front of them. They suspended a linebacker for insider trading on the stock market one time 🤣. Somehow this guy has a job. How? Find that out and fix it. Exactly, I realize you can’t predict life. Anything can happen with people from all walks of life, but the NFL could have prevented this black eye on Super Bowl weekend. I’m not saying that people without questionable pasts never find trouble, or those with pasts always find trouble again, but we aren’t talking about this sad story today if the league had standards. Edited February 6, 2021 by SirAndrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Reid's sons both with history of being out of control. Hard to imagine after the disaster of his older son, that his other son would still be with the team despite all the previous significant issues, again, with substance abuse. wtf? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 29 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: I forget. What are the other reasons? Hey I'd bet he was leaving the Chief's facility too. How bout that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 This requires further investigation... Guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 You're kid is a real piece of work Andy. Nice long rap sheet. Better pray that kid survives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mister Defense said: Well, fair to feel bad for all here, I guess, but why so much for Britt Reid? What he did was negligent, criminal, with a long history with driving while impaired. Not deserving of any kind of compassion. A shame that such a good coach like Reid was such a poor father when it came to raising his sons. One son, Barrett, dead because of substance abuse, and now Britt recklessly living his life without regard for the lives of others or himself. Seems like they were rich privileged kids raised without proper guidance or guardrails. You'd think a man seemingly capable of being a great leader of men would be able to lead his own kids to a stable, happy adulthood. “Ignorance” has such a negative connotation that I hate to use the word here. It just means a lack of knowledge or awareness. I’m seeing a lot of that here. Of course the victims get the bulk of my sympathy. It’s a HORRIBLE tragedy. I also feel for the Reid family. They have already suffered so much. If you know anything about addiction, it muddies these waters. To call Andy Reid “such a poor father” actually makes me feel sorry for you. How many times have you met Andy Reid? How well do you know him and his family? Who are you to judge? Sometimes things go off the rails no matter how hard you try to fix it. Kids from ALL socio-economic backgrounds run into trouble. That’s a fact. Sometimes in life $%#& happens. I won’t judge you, you just don’t know. I just ask that you judge less yourself. That, of course, is totally up to you in the end. We just don’t know what we don’t know. We lost a son to addiction, as others here have. You have NO IDEA what we went thru and how hard we tried. Don’t be too proud if the dice rolled right for you. Our other son has an outstanding future ahead. Same genes, same values, just a different outcome. Life happens....... As we heard from a great kid/patient at family weekend in rehab, parents take way too much credit and get way too much blame for how their kids turn out. Parents would come congratulate me after our kids sporting events. I’d say “I did nothing, but he played a great game! Just don’t tell him because he doesn’t need a big head!” . . . Edited February 6, 2021 by Augie 9 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, Augie said: “Ignorance” has such a negative connotation that I hate to use the word here. It just means a lack of knowledge or awareness. I’m seeing a lot of that here. Of course the victims get the bulk of my sympathy. It’s a HORRIBLE tragedy. I also feel for the Reid family. They have already suffered so much. If you know anything about addiction, it muddies these waters. To call Andy Reid “such a poor father” actually makes me feel sorry for you. How many times have you met Andy Reid? How well do you know him and his family? Who are you to judge? Sometimes things go off the rails no matter how hard you try to fix it. Kids from ALL socio-economic backgrounds run into trouble. That’s a fact. Sometimes in life $%#& happens. I won’t judge you, you just don’t know. I just ask that you judge less yourself. That of course, it totally up to you in the end. We just don’t know what we don’t know. I won't judge Andy Reid but I think judging his son is fair game. You almost kill a kid on your SECOND DUI, I feel ok passing judgement. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: I won't judge Andy Reid but I think judging his son is fair game. You almost kill a kid on your SECOND DUI, I feel ok passing judgement. He will, and should, face everything coming his way. ZERO problem with that. How he got there is still sad. I’m not judging, just saying he gets what the law calls for. You can hate him for it, I feel bad when any life gets wasted. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, SirAndrew said: These are the type of things that make it so hard to root for the NFL. If Buffalo didn’t have a team, I couldn’t do it. It seems like women and children are constant collateral damage to the lifestyle of NFL players and coaches. Maybe the NFL should be like a normal employer, and not allow hires with extensive criminal backgrounds on a coaching staff. How does the NFL allow this. Reid's son had an extensive background. Sounds like Andy needed to spend a little less time coaching and more time being a father. 2 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Augie said: He will, and should, face everything coming his way. ZERO problem with that. How he got there is still sad. I’m not judging, just saying he gets what the law calls for. You can hate him for it, I feel bad when any life gets wasted. For sure I agree...I guess my point is if that kid ends up dying I will feel eminently more badly about how that life was wasted, as opposed to how bad I feel about Britt Reid's life being wasted. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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