FireChans Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: And I'm not saying I will be mad if the Bills don't draft a RB early this year, but to keep up with KC they need to make this offense even better next year and that is one way to do it. No need to wait for a rookie WR or TE to adjust to the pro game. Get a RB that has speed and can catch the ball and plug him in. The Chiefs don't need to use RBs in their pass game because they have an elite WR and TE. We aren't going to pull another elite offensive player out of a hat. We need to try a different strategy. I hear you. I just think you have to keep long term franchise building in mind and spending firsts on RBs is not how you build a consistent winner imo. Maybe try to get a Rashad Penny cheaply on the trade market. Edited January 25, 2021 by FireChans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, FireChans said: Knox is simply not consistent enough to be a focal point of our offense. I'll be honest I don't know enough to say if this is true or not. The drops earlier in the year frustrated me but lately he has seemed pretty consistent to me. I don't know if we don't throw to him because he can't get open or because Daboll doesn't bother trying to make him a focal point. He has elite athleticism so I find it hard to believe he can't get open against LBs. 7 minutes ago, FireChans said: I just think you have to keep long term franchise building in mind and spending firsts on RBs is not how you build a consistent winner imo. I actually think that the Bills should be willing to sacrifice the long term a little in exchange for the short term over the next 2-3 seasons. That is about how long we have before I expect Allen's cap hit to limit what the team can afford. We have a prime Super Bowl window and right now KC is the main obstacle to that. I would be okay drafting a pass catching RB in the 1st even knowing that they're unlikely to stay here past their rookie deal because we really only need them to play at a high level for a few years. And it's not like drafting a DE or TE or whoever else at the end of the 1st is guaranteed to work out short or long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trust The Process Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Is any part of Devin Singletary’s game elite? Does he have above average speed? No Does he have above average size? No Does he run with power? No Does he have game breaking ability? No Is he good in the red zone? No The only thing he’s elite at is Pass Blocking, but other than that he’s average at everything else which won’t cut it. Zach Moss might be a good RB but he’ll never be above average. Moss is not the RB1 either but at least he’s a bigger, more physical, and speedier RB than Devin Singletary. At least Zach Moss has VALUE, but other than pass blocking Devin Singletary DOESN’T. Going forward Moss deserves to be the RB2 but he’s not the game breaking back we desperately need. Beane has a huge decision to make at RB this offseason. Does he draft a third RB three drafts in a row or does he sign a marquee free agent like Aaron Jones? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Elite? Is that a joke? He looks like he's running in sand. TBH I don't see how he's in the league in a few years. Yeldon should have been our gauy all season. And that's saying something. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Singletary would be a great 3rd rb on a team Moss a 2 Need s starter still. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Jay_Fixit said: Worst part is he was much better than Zack Moss. Moss had one bad fumble against San Fran, but was able to grind out yards to help end games. More than we can say for Singletary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Norcalbillsfan said: Keep moss, find speed at RB. I agree.....Moss has tons of upside.....this guy is gonna be very very good...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 You know who would have caught that pass Singletary dropped? Christian Wade. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I hated the Singletary pick, but he won me over last year. But as this season went on, he fell off a cliff. Glad to see I was right in the first place. We need to upgrade RB1 next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I feel really bad about Singletary because he strikes me as a ripping team first player. And up until the halfway mark this season I still thought he would be a long-term running back for the Bills. But sadly he has regressed quite badly and on the face of it does not appear to have the necessary traits of a top notch RB. I think we need to cut our losses and and find another RB1. Maybe he finds another gear next season but I am not too confident. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Singletary would be a great 3rd rb on a team Moss a 2 Need s starter still. I dont think mcd or daboll want a true rb1 I think they wanted a committee but a committee needs speed. Moss or even Singletary that split with a speed rb could work. Like what Hines brings to the Colts, hes not bell cow but he can break off a 30 yard run on a simple dump off, Singletary and moss will never do that, they get caught by linebackers and D ends. Just the presence of speed makes the defense adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 He is no Fred Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 8 hours ago, mannc said: It’s unfortunate because we’ve used two high draft picks on RBs in the past two drafts and we have nothing to show for it—and it’s an easy position to scout and draft. I thought Devin had a chance to be good, but he regressed badly. If he can't even block, he's useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Eastport bills said: I thought Devin had a chance to be good, but he regressed badly. If he can't even block, he's useless. Using a third round pick on a RB is like using a first round pick on a WR. It ain’t that hard. To whiff twice in a row on those picks is ....concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 i agree wholeheartedly with the drift of this chat. one thing that sticks in my craw: the bills coaches are really really conservative to swap in and out skill players. davis was in no shape to play, brown was dinged up, and beez was in and out (heroic effort from him) but we didn't throw in Stills and barely put mac in. meanwhile KC dumps their 1st rounder for a guy who was driving UPS trucks and smoked us with him. On D, we have corners alternate, have nearly 10MM a year DEs not suit up, and rotate all game. they have unlimited flexibility to move guys around on D, but treat skill positions on O like they are rocket surgery. makes no sense! part of me wonders what our practice breakdown problems are. i feel like we don't spend enough time on situational plays that we can go back to and maybe change up over time to TEs and RBs. i dig some might be due to lack of talent, but KC took our bread and butter away (helped by injuries) and we had no answer. on the flip side, their whole O were the two most obvious players they have, and we didn't even seem to try to stop it schematically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Oh Henderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Singletary is so “meh” it hurts. That drop last night in the 2nd quarter on that swing pass sent things down hill fast. I told my buddy’s after the drop, it seemed like ***** hit the fan quick. Seems like a good kid, but we need a huge upgrade at RB. He isn’t going to cut it. Edited January 25, 2021 by McBean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artem Lipatov Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Motor was really promising last year, especially with Frank Gore to compare. Why did he fall from the cliff? Maybe Bills RB coach is bad? He didn’t deserve a truck from his guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I'm fine with Singletary as a change-of-pace back. He didn't perform well this year at all, but he showed enough flashes last year that I'm fine with him having a role on this team. But that role can't be RB1 or RB1-B. This position needs an upgrade. The silver lining here is that it's blindingly obvious that our coaching staff is dissatisfied with the RB room, and it's not terribly difficult to find RBs in the draft and FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I have seen enough of Singlecarry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, mannc said: Using a third round pick on a RB is like using a first round pick on a WR. It ain’t that hard. To whiff twice in a row on those picks is ....concerning. Moss was somewhat of a short yardage, inside bruiser, but at best he projects as a compliment to an explosive feature back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just saying, Fournette played this year for $2MM. He made several plays during the playoffs that were game changers in both the running and passing game. We don't have a bruiser like him on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Singletary’s game looks much worse when we don’t have that true inside the tackle back that runs with power. Moss made some improvement over the course of the year and he was a big loss when he went down because we did not have another rb that was trusted to fill that role. Yeldon is is better than Singletary because he catches the ball better but he is still more of a finesse back. Williams could be a hammer but the coaches did not trust the rookie in the playoffs so our offense was severely handicapped. I mean, teams had no respect for our running game whatsoever after the Indy game. Singletary can pop a few runs here and there but defenses will take that and focus on stopping our passing game which they did. Whereas KC has the ability to hand the ball off to their rbs if we just play pure coverage. in sum, we need better play from our rbs next year and part of that might be just dressing 3 viable rbs instead of having this fascination with special teams players taking up game day roster spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) As a rookie (and in college), Singletary's elusiveness was elite. This year, we didn't really see any of that. He's always struggled in terms of pass protection and catching the ball; the drop yesterday wasn't surprising. He's did the same in college and the same as a rookie. But he's always been really tough to get on the ground once he gets the ball in his hands and that didn't seem to be the case this year at all. Edited January 25, 2021 by DCOrange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 10 hours ago, FireChans said: Terrible use of a first rounder. Completely disagree. What is the difference between us and a team like the Chiefs? Speed at every level. A guy like ettienne would provide speed in the run game as well as a pass catcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 11:39 PM, HappyDays said: End of the 1st round is not that different in value from the 2nd round. As usual there are going to be less than 30 players with 1st round grades, and this year more than ever it is going to be difficult to draft due to limited college games plus no combine or private visits. I am usually completely against the idea of the Bills drafting a RB early but it is the last piece our offense needs and it's an easy position to scout. If they believe they are missing 1 or 2 pieces it's a good thing to pull the trigger whenever the guy you want comes along. If its an over draft a trade whatever. You get your guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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