Divisional Playoff round: Ravens at Bills on Saturday Night Football

[Mat68]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Ravens fan on One Bills Live likes their chances due to the trenches. 

 

Certainly a valid hope if you're a Ravens fan. 

 

Gut check time for our DL & LB'ers.  Milano, Edmunds, Oliver, Hughes, Addison... looking at you.

Basically, Ne but with a faster qb.

[Patrick Duffy]

26 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Appreciate the nice words. Why? Cuz it’s as common at Bills games as the SHOUT! song. I was hoping with less than 7k in the stands and ore than a year since ANYONE saw a Bills game live, maybe it wouldn’t happen. Especially given how rare the opportunity was. But, NOooooooo..

‘Zactly.

No one I know.

Shhhhh!🤫 You’re killing his narrative.

Nevermind, I went way up thread and found what you're talking about. That's crazy, I didn't know this happened. You would think everyone enjoying the game that they are finally able to attend for a while would be happy having a great time. I'm sure most or all did besides this particular bunch.

 

Anyways, that's a shame it happened. I'm sure the alcohol didn't help the situation either lol.

[One Buffalo]

Ravens D can be beat... And we have seen Allen has the ability to pick defenses apart.  

 

 

[SWATeam]

1 minute ago, One Buffalo said:

Ravens D can be beat... And we have seen Allen has the ability to pick defenses apart.  

 

 

I’m just hoping our WR’s are healthy 

[Patrick Duffy]

7 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Ravens fan on One Bills Live likes their chances due to the trenches. 

 

Certainly a valid hope if you're a Ravens fan. 

 

Gut check time for our DL & LB'ers.  Milano, Edmunds, Oliver, Hughes, Addison... looking at you.

Yup, I can agree with them. If I was a Ravens fan I would think the same thing. I would feel pretty good about their OL handling business and I would be confident the ground game will be strong.

 

I can see the point. Other half of the glass though is they know Bills offense is going to put points on the board and would be difficult for them if Bills can get a strong start and get a good lead. They definitely don't want to play catch up I would think.

[Juice_32]

If you get a chance, re-watch the Pats* Ravens matchup from earlier in the season. The Pats* forced Lamar to be a pocket QB about as well as I've ever seen another team do it. The Ravens offense never really found its rhythm in that one. 

 

It was also surprising to see Cam hit a few of the deep crossers we used so well against Miami in the first matchup with them. He hit them on Humphrey and Peters, set up by play action. I cant stand Belicheat, but if I'm McD I'd be watching the Pats* Ravens film a ton this week.

[Patrick Duffy]

4 minutes ago, One Buffalo said:

Ravens D can be beat... And we have seen Allen has the ability to pick defenses apart.  

 

 

Yup, he has been great. Just hope our Oline can keep them at bay for the most part. While they can be beat, they can very well beat you too. They have always had a good D and can get pressure pretty well.

 

Josh, Daboll, and the offense has done a very good job throughout the season with adjustments against these good defenses. I feel confident the offense will do their part. More worried about Bills D as I'm sure a majority of ppl are.

[SCBills]

Kyle Brandt makes an interesting point, that I think is leading the narrative this week in that "there's a stat called juice, and the Ravens have it"....  I mean, I get it... 

 

I also remember last time they were feeling themselves and got knocked out.  Big Truss, woo woo.

 

Edited January 12, 2021 by SCBills

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Has anyone seen any good articles on the specifics of the ravens’ coverages? I haven’t seen anything, other than general Stuff (they play a lot of man and do a lot of exotic blitzes). 

[eball]

I bet McKenzie is having fun playing Lamar Jackson in practice this week.

[BillsSbSoon]

We struggle with qbs that get the ball out quick. Weve always struggled vs rivers. Felt nervous going in because of that. 

Yeah the ravens are better running and stopping the run but im actually a little less worried about this game. I really think were going to handle them. We have to make jackson a thrower. If we can jump on them early i think we will roll them. 

We contained lamar last year and nearly won when our offense wasnt nearly as good either

Edited January 12, 2021 by BillsSbSoon

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Not sure if already covered here or elsewhere, but we should be expecting nothing but class from the Ravens, right? 🙄

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30687874/baltimore-ravens-celebration-tennessee-titans-logo-team-unity-not-disrespect

 

"The Ravens were penalized 15 yards for taunting, but it had no impact on the game. Six plays later, Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson knelt one final time and ran off the field without shaking hands with the Titans, waving at his teammates to do the same."

 

C'mon Buffalo. Don't let your logo get disrespected this weekend. Win!!!

[RochesterLifer]

55 minutes ago, DisplacedBillsFan said:

I’m starting to feel blowout. Something like 34-17 Bills win.

I'll have what he's drinking.

[Penfield45]

really hope Daboll replaced those weird designed QB draws with screen passes to counter the Ravens heavy blitzing. 

 

Ravens aren't nearly as good of a blitzing team as the Steelers, I thought we did a good job vs their blitz in the 2nd half of that game. That said, Ravens secondary is elite, far better than Pittsburg's 

[Patrick Duffy]

12 minutes ago, Juice_32 said:

If you get a chance, re-watch the Pats* Ravens matchup from earlier in the season. The Pats* forced Lamar to be a pocket QB about as well as I've ever seen another team do it. The Ravens offense never really found its rhythm in that one. 

 

It was also surprising to see Cam hit a few of the deep crossers we used so well against Miami in the first matchup with them. He hit them on Humphrey and Peters, set up by play action. I cant stand Belicheat, but if I'm McD I'd be watching the Pats* Ravens film a ton this week.

Yeah and actually might would look at the Titans game that they won. Titans actually were doing a pretty good job for quite a while there I thought. Anyway I don't remember how early in the season it was when the Ravens/Pats game was, but imo when it's early in a season a lot of teams will have issues and kinks to work out.

 

In other words teams may have already tried what Pats did to a certain extent and it didn't work as well. I mean I kinda feel like if a team we were about to play pulled film from the Bills-Raiders game in week 3, imo it would not be as helpful as the film from week 13 onto present. I'm sure they could get alittle bits and pieces to use for their own thing.

 

But just saying I don't think you can really get a whole lot current info from film on a game in week 3 compared to like last quarter of the season. Teams are still feeling things out for the most part I would think, but yeah I think they are getting film form a numbers of games the Ravens played.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Not sure if already covered here or elsewhere, but we should be expecting nothing but class from the Ravens, right? 🙄

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30687874/baltimore-ravens-celebration-tennessee-titans-logo-team-unity-not-disrespect

 

"The Ravens were penalized 15 yards for taunting, but it had no impact on the game. Six plays later, Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson knelt one final time and ran off the field without shaking hands with the Titans, waving at his teammates to do the same."

 

C'mon Buffalo. Don't let your logo get disrespected this weekend. Win!!!

That logo stomping was retribution from earlier in the season where the titians held a pre game meeting on the ravens logo in pre game warm ups

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Penfield45 said:

really hope Daboll replaced those weird designed QB draws with screen passes to counter the Ravens heavy blitzing. 

 

Ravens aren't nearly as good of a blitzing team as the Steelers, I thought we did a good job vs their blitz in the 2nd half of that game. That said, Ravens secondary is elite, far better than Pittsburg's 

I can’t see Baltimore blitzing heavy.

 

I know that’s what they do and that’s their strength.

 

But they would be asking for big trouble if they give the bills a lot of cover 1/cover 0

[Penfield45]

32 minutes ago, One Buffalo said:

Ravens D can be beat... And we have seen Allen has the ability to pick defenses apart.  

 

 

 

Basically we will go as far as Allen takes us (again) 

 

I'm not expecting our defense to stop Lamar all game, but we gotta put up 30 against that ravens defense. need a big game from John Brown, he has been really disappointing the last 2 playoff games. I remember he had that huge drop in the texans game last year that would have setup 1st and goal from the 5

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, Penfield45 said:

really hope Daboll replaced those weird designed QB draws with screen passes to counter the Ravens heavy blitzing. 

 

Ravens aren't nearly as good of a blitzing team as the Steelers, I thought we did a good job vs their blitz in the 2nd half of that game. That said, Ravens secondary is elite, far better than Pittsburg's 

I don't like those plays much either. You have to understand though, he did that because the Colts were planned against the pass a lot more than his running. He called those plays because it was working for the most part. Some of them didn't and I agree were a little head scratching.

 

But I definitely understand the reason behind it. Have to do whatever it takes to get any advantage possible and win.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Just now, BillsFan130 said:

I can’t see Baltimore blitzing heavy.

 

I know that’s what they do and that’s their strength.

 

But they would be asking for big trouble if they give the bills a lot of cover 1/cover 0

I don’t think they are built to sit back and play zone and rush 4. We will pick them apart. They will do what they do best. Play physical and blitz a ton. 

[Comebackkid]

4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I can’t see Baltimore blitzing heavy.

 

I know that’s what they do and that’s their strength.

 

But they would be asking for big trouble if they give the bills a lot of cover 1/cover 0

Obviously things were different last year but it's amazing they blitzed 31  time and sacked Josh  six times last year

[Motorin']

9 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:

really hope Daboll replaced those weird designed QB draws with screen passes to counter the Ravens heavy blitzing. 

 

Ravens aren't nearly as good of a blitzing team as the Steelers, I thought we did a good job vs their blitz in the 2nd half of that game. That said, Ravens secondary is elite, far better than Pittsburg's 

 

And quick slants and quick outs. I do not want to see Josh trying to run over Ravens LB's.

[eball]

5 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I can’t see Baltimore blitzing heavy.

 

I know that’s what they do and that’s their strength.

 

But they would be asking for big trouble if they give the bills a lot of cover 1/cover 0

 

The Ravens under Harbaugh are a pretty arrogant team.  They seem to basically say "we'll do what we do and you have to beat us."  Against most teams it's good enough, but against really good QBs they are vulnerable.

 

Guess what -- the Bills finally have a "really good QB."

[Patrick Duffy]

4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I can’t see Baltimore blitzing heavy.

 

I know that’s what they do and that’s their strength.

 

But they would be asking for big trouble if they give the bills a lot of cover 1/cover 0

Yup, that's the thing. I would pull my hair out trying to game plan against the Bills offense. You can't just say "keep him in the pocket", or "make him beat us with his arm".

 

Those days are long gone. You have to prepare for the deadly passing game, the running game isn't as strong but it is good enough you have to respect it. Then you also have to worry about Josh taking off and running for 20-30plus yards. The blitz Ravens like to do may work here and there a few times, but Josh will eat it up at some point and burn your ass up.

 

So what do you do? I would do exactly what the Colts did but be prepared for Josh running a little more than the Colts were. You can bet your ass the Ravens are looking at the way the Colts did. Josh was just too good though and WR's had a lot of drops that you can factor in.

 

 

[Warcodered]

17 minutes ago, eball said:

I bet McKenzie is having fun playing Lamar Jackson in practice this week.

Maybe they the Steelers will let us borrow Ray-Ray I mean they're not doing anything.

12 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Not sure if already covered here or elsewhere, but we should be expecting nothing but class from the Ravens, right? 🙄

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30687874/baltimore-ravens-celebration-tennessee-titans-logo-team-unity-not-disrespect

 

"The Ravens were penalized 15 yards for taunting, but it had no impact on the game. Six plays later, Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson knelt one final time and ran off the field without shaking hands with the Titans, waving at his teammates to do the same."

 

C'mon Buffalo. Don't let your logo get disrespected this weekend. Win!!!

I didn't like that either but I guess it was a response to the Titans doing it to them earlier in the season.

[Logic]

10 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:

really hope Daboll replaced those weird designed QB draws with screen passes to counter the Ravens heavy blitzing. 

 

The QB draws out of empty sets were because the Colts has only 4-5 men near the line of scrimmage, two high safeties playing very deep, and corners giving generous cushion. They were literally daring the Bills to run Josh Allen. To have NOT done so would have been coaching malpractice.

 

 

I do agree, though, that I hope Daboll has an effective set of screens ready to go to counter all the blitzing.

[BillsFan130]

3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I don’t think they are built to sit back and play zone and rush 4. We will pick them apart. They will do what they do best. Play physical and blitz a ton. 

Could be rush 4/5, man to man with 1 or 2 safeties.

 

That would be my guess as i think they'll mix that game plan.

 

I don't see them blitzing 6 plus guys very often

[Patrick Duffy]

4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I don’t think they are built to sit back and play zone and rush 4. We will pick them apart. They will do what they do best. Play physical and blitz a ton. 

Good. Josh will burn that ass up. May work for a short period of time for then. But it will bite em and bite em good sooner than later.

[BillsFan130]

2 minutes ago, eball said:

 

The Ravens under Harbaugh are a pretty arrogant team.  They seem to basically say "we'll do what we do and you have to beat us."  Against most teams it's good enough, but against really good QBs they are vulnerable.

 

Guess what -- the Bills finally have a "really good QB."

Ya that is true.

 

One game sticks out to me about the ravens though. Against CLE on that crazy monday nighter, they played a lot of coverage as they didn't matchup well with the browns receivers as I believe they had a corner or 2 hurt.

 

Now they got burned by it so maybe they will change.

 

But they did show they will play coverage if they don't think they can matchup well 1 on 1 with only 1 high safety

[Solomon Grundy]

19 hours ago, sullim4 said:

 

 BAL @ BUF (Sat. 8:15pm EST, NBC) - Carl Cheffers 

We just may have an advantage. Look at the LJ last name 😎

[Patrick Duffy]

18 minutes ago, eball said:

 

The Ravens under Harbaugh are a pretty arrogant team.  They seem to basically say "we'll do what we do and you have to beat us."  Against most teams it's good enough, but against really good QBs they are vulnerable.

 

Guess what -- the Bills finally have a "really good QB."

I'd go as far to say great QB. But yeah they can't say "make him be a QB" and ***** like that anymore. During the Colts game they said they wanted to keep Josh in the pocket.

 

Well okay......he's great there too, so I didn't quite get that 

Edited January 12, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

3 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Could be rush 4/5, man to man with 1 or 2 safeties.

 

That would be my guess as i think they'll mix that game plan.

 

I don't see them blitzing 6 plus guys very often

 

From what I have read, they are unpredictable with their blitzes--including numbers and who blitzes.  So, it's tough to say how often they will bring the house. 

[BillsFan130]

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

 

From what I have read, they are unpredictable with their blitzes--including numbers and who blitzes.  So, it's tough to say how often they will bring the house. 

Ya for sure and I hear you.

 

I just think they are really playing with fire if they bring the house against Allen and the weapons the bills have 

Edited January 12, 2021 by BillsFan130

[Solomon Grundy]

9 hours ago, Rick 'r Mortis said:

Good thing he was wearing his mask 👊🥴

A face mask??? Poor guy needed a helmet too. 

[transplantbillsfan]

57 minutes ago, One Buffalo said:

Ravens D can be beat... And we have seen Allen has the ability to pick defenses apart.  

 

 

 

This year I've actually been getting irritated on almost every play Allen goes under center other than the 3rd and 4th and short where we QB sneak it.  I feel anxiety because I anticipate handing the ball off to an RB.

 

I'm sorry but this team wins or loses with Allen.  Moss and Singletary just aren't very good and the 2 or 3 yard gains just don't net anything that Allen can do with his arms and legs.  Keep an RB in the backfield and occasionally run it to keep them honest, but we ran the ball way too much in the first half against Indy.

 

I also really wish we'd eliminate QB designed runs.  RPOs are fine and tell Allen he should absolutely run on passing plays vs. man coverage if everyone's covered and he sees an opening.  But our designed QB runs have NEVER been all that effective over the past 3 years.

 

Of course... his designed QB runs have been more effective than running our RBs... so I guess there's that...

Edited January 12, 2021 by transplantbillsfan

[Einstein's Dog]

10 minutes ago, Logic said:

The QB draws out of empty sets were because the Colts has only 4-5 men near the line of scrimmage, two high safeties playing very deep, and corners giving generous cushion. They were literally daring the Bills to run Josh Allen. To have NOT done so would have been coaching malpractice.

 

 

I do agree, though, that I hope Daboll has an effective set of screens ready to go to counter all the blitzing.

I agree with you, that the tactic of QB draws can be effective.  And if Balt sends 5 and has man to man on the back end and we send them all deep Josh may have to do it again.  Gain 15 and get OB or slide down (because Balt likes to take the cheap shot intimidation factor).  Then Balt will need to rethink their strategy.

[HerdMentality]

Their O-Line is much bigger than our D-Line. Rather worried about our run defense...

[Patrick Duffy]

25 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Not sure if already covered here or elsewhere, but we should be expecting nothing but class from the Ravens, right? 🙄

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30687874/baltimore-ravens-celebration-tennessee-titans-logo-team-unity-not-disrespect

 

"The Ravens were penalized 15 yards for taunting, but it had no impact on the game. Six plays later, Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson knelt one final time and ran off the field without shaking hands with the Titans, waving at his teammates to do the same."

 

C'mon Buffalo. Don't let your logo get disrespected this weekend. Win!!!

I missed that. Well I started doing something else after Tanny's INT so that explains it. But that is disrespectful, maybe it has more to do with the Titans and they have started a new rivalry with each other.

 

Titans started it I think with the Ravens logo earlier in the season and quick hand shake thing (if you want to call it a hand shake). So maybe it was just because of that. I feel like it would be different with the Bills.

[One Buffalo]

The way I see it is our ideal scenario is to jump out to an early lead and force Lamar to throw.  It was mentioned by the announcers in the Titans game, the Ravens are not built to play from behind.  They did of course come back against Titans but the Titans D is horrible.  If we can come out throwing and get a leg up, we should be at an increased advantage.  

[transplantbillsfan]

2 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

I do think part of that was the fact that Rivers, on average, was getting the ball out of his hands in about 2.5 seconds. It is going to be tough to get any kind of consistent pressure in that amount of time. Rivers was killing us with fairly quick throws to his tight ends.

 

This is a great point... Rivers has that vet savvy to get rid of the ball quickly.  Jackson's strategy is often to hold onto the ball.

 

I'm nervous about our pass rush, but our issues against Indy may have just been a product of going against a QB getting the ball out of his hands so quickly.