Magox Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Mahomes clearly deserves the title as well he best QB because of his accomplishments and abilities. With that said, the way Josh Allen is taking absolute command of the offense and his belief that he can handle anything thrown at him. He is just in such a zone, he is cool, calm and collected and never panics. The throws he made today to Krumerow and one to Beasley today where he just throws absolute dimes with a velocity that no other QB could throw. Those throws were special. And the way Josh Allen is playing now and continuing to grow as a superstar, you can see how he could end up the best QB in the league. He is playing at that level now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 If I'm starting a team tomorrow and have a choice of any current QB in the NFL I pick Josh and I don't look back. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: If I'm starting a team tomorrow and have a choice of any current QB in the NFL I pick Josh and I don't look back. It’s either Mahomes or Josh. Right now I imagine most GMs would choose Mahomes over Allen because he’s done it before and Josh hasn’t. But again, if Josh was on the Chiefs and Mahomes on the Bills I think the league considers Allen the star. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTown Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I People... please. Enough. This is as dumb as the Lebron > Jordan debate. You can create whatever points and counter points all day for whatever side you want. The reality is that Josh is Our QB and he is playing great going into the playoffs. I hope that all the National media Keep him out of the MVP discussion and it motivates Josh to prove them all wrong. He is mature beyond his age and has made strides and improvements in his play that I have never seen before. Let him continue to be hungry and continue to hone his skill. I could care less about a meaningless debate at this point. Enjoy the win, prepare for the next game, stay humble, and hungry! Go Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: It’s either Mahomes or Josh. Right now I imagine most GMs would choose Mahomes over Allen because he’s done it before and Josh hasn’t. But again, if Josh was on the Chiefs and Mahomes on the Bills I think the league considers Allen the star. Mahomes is currently better but there is a hunger in Josh Allen and that's why I wouldn't look back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 He's top 4 no doubt. But Rodgers is insane right now. Mahomes at 1/2. Wilson maybe behind JA now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 He is peaking!!!!!!!!!!!!! Peaking!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: He's top 4 no doubt. But Rodgers is insane right now. Mahomes at 1/2. Wilson maybe behind JA now. Rodgers is so ridiculously good now. He hadn’t even played at this point in Josh’s career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Honestly, I think he’s the best QB of all time... 1) Allen 2) Brady 3) Montana 4) Manning 5) Favre 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Toejam 34 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 To me, Josh is playing at very high level, but he's gotten some tremendous play around him. QB position is all about how they perform when the pressure is on, which includes the playoffs. I hope to see it this year. This could elevate Josh into that league. Getting into the playoffs should be old-hat by now. Getting more deeper into the playoffs is the standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Honestly, I think he’s the best QB of all time... 1) Allen 2) Brady Kelly 3) Montana 4) Manning 5) Favre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Chaos said: I know people don't like to believe it, but the Buffalo Bills currently employ the NFL's best QB. HIs physical talent is without peer. His leadership is #1 as well. No aspect of his game is not in the Top 5 in the NFL .Overall he is the best. Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Maholmes would argue with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beer Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 This team will win the Super Bowl and this QB will be MVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Allen > Everybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He's top 4 no doubt. But Rodgers is insane right now. Mahomes at 1/2. Wilson maybe behind JA now. Rodgers mainly plays low end NFC teams. Hard to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Chaos said: I know people don't like to believe it, but the Buffalo Bills currently employ the NFL's best QB. HIs physical talent is without peer. His leadership is #1 as well. No aspect of his game is not in the Top 5 in the NFL .Overall he is the best. Dollar for dollar Josh is far and away the best QB in the NFL otherwise I have him at #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 It's undeniable he's top 5, and a really strong argument can be made that he's anywhere between 1-3. He looked like a man possessed out there during the Broncos game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Weatherman said: Dollar for dollar Josh is far and away the best QB in the NFL otherwise I have him at #3. Josh has a higher cap hit than Mahomes does this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 On pure numbers Mahomes and Rodgers are better but Rodgers is more based on consistency. I think Josh has that something special that puts him right with them in his ability to inspire teammates. I look forward to this years playoffs in a way I have not in long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Chaos said: Rodgers mainly plays low end NFC teams. Hard to judge. The Bills scored zero TDs against the Jets in their second meeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, FireChans said: Josh has a higher cap hit than Mahomes does this season. That’s kind of ridiculous considering the contract Mahomes signed already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Josh certainly looks like the MVP of quarterbacks playing tonight. Let’s be real though. We don’t need him to be NFL MVP this year. Super Bowl MVP will be just fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said: On pure numbers Mahomes and Rodgers are better but Rodgers is more based on consistency. I think Josh has that something special that puts him right with them in his ability to inspire teammates. I look forward to this years playoffs in a way I have not in long time. Josh’s numbers equal Mahomes this year counting everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: Josh has a higher cap hit than Mahomes does this season. Wow, you sir are correct. 5.5M this 25M next, 41M the 3rd. They better hope they win SBs the next 2 years because they are going to have to gut the team after that. Edited December 20, 2020 by Weatherman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: Josh has a higher cap hit than Mahomes does this season. Hmm perhaps but Mahomes just signed a fat deal... so that will catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I am convinced this is the best Bills team since 1991. kind of unrelated to the topic, but wanted to say it without creating a new thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Weatherman said: Wow, you sir are correct. 5.5M this 25M next, 41M the 3rd. They better hope the win SBs the next 2 years because they are going to have to gut the team after that. They've already won a Super Bowl. More is just gravy. 2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: That’s kind of ridiculous considering the contract Mahomes signed already. He's still playing under his rookie deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) If he can hit the deep ball like he did today then yes he is immediately the best QB in the NFL. Mahomes has been a substantially better deep passer so far. If Allen finally got that lightbulb to turn on the rest of the NFL is in trouble. Edited December 20, 2020 by HappyDays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, QLBillsFan said: Hmm perhaps but Mahomes just signed a fat deal... so that will catch up. Josh will sign one next season. Catch up indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) Remember when we would have accepted him hanging with Cousins and other borderline #1 dorks by year 3? I've loved Allen since the pick but I never thought he would be this good before the end of his third year. He's special and a top tier QB. You never saw Andy Dalton or any other average #1 just go off for 40 TDs in a year and then return back to Earth, so I think we're going to get used to these kind of stats. He's top 3 right now with more than enough room to take the #1 slot before the end of this year. Edited December 20, 2020 by Nelius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 For me, it’s Mahomes and then Allen. They are in a tier of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: They've already won a Super Bowl. More is just gravy. He's still playing under his rookie deal. No he got a 10m signing bonus and 140m guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: No he got a 10m signing bonus and 140m guaranteed. Tell Sportrac. They have his 2020 cap hit at $5M. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: If he can hit the deep ball like he did today then yes he is immediately the best QB in the NFL. Mahomes has been a substantially better deep passer so far. If Allen finally got that lightbulb to turn on the rest of the NFL is in trouble. I don’t think there is any question Mahomes is a better deep passer than Josh right now. That said, deep passes that are caught are way more than people think about the receiver than the QBs. A lot of times, maybe most, are as much the WR tracking the ball, increasing or decreasing their speed, adjusting to the placement and trajectory and then catching it in stride. Some guys are great at that others aren’t. Tyreek Hill is great at that. Just now, FireChans said: Tell Sportrac. They have his 2020 cap hit at $5M. I just looked it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 hour ago, brianthomas said: Mahomes tweeted this during the game today: Mahomes couldn't do that. Josh clearly the better QB GO BILLS! Pretty cool of Mahomes to tweet that. Did you ever hear Brady say anything complimentary of P Manning? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: I don’t think there is any question Mahomes is a better deep passer than Josh right now. That said, deep passes that are caught are way more than people think about the receiver than the QBs. A lot of times, maybe most, are as much the WR tracking the ball, increasing or decreasing their speed, adjusting to the placement and trajectory and then catching it in stride. Some guys are great at that others aren’t. Tyreek Hill is great at that. I just looked it up. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I’m going to cry if Daboll leaves.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Me too. They counted his original contract in the 2020 numbers and didn’t add in the new contract. It’s a stupid argument. Mahomes has $140m guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: They counted his original contract in the 2020 numbers and didn’t add in the new contract. It’s a stupid argument. Mahomes has $140m guaranteed. So even though you just looked it up at sportrac.com, sportrac.com is wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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