DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: Shoulda won by 20+ Really poor showing in the 4th. Gave them every chance to come back and win that game. As long as the team learns from this and gets better we can move forward. It just seems like this is the same story every week, too many miscues at the wrong time. You cannot win a playoff game like that. is this for real? you can't win a playoff game like that? they won. what are smoking. the comments in the last 24 hrs after this win are just unreal. just ***** unreal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Not falling on the fumble was stupid. He'll even say himself it was stupid and he has to do better. Yet, it's likely we'll see that stuff again this season... Counterpoint. Allen is a playmaker, and frankly I don't want that to change. I'll live with the occasional negative play if it means getting the highlight reel plays. You're going to have to learn to live with this sort of thing for the next ten years or so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 We are 8-3 and kept Herbert in check. If we didnt put the rock on the ground the score would of been plus 20 for us. They were lucky it was only 10 points. Regardless, a W is a W 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ramza86 said: You cannot win a playoff game like that. Nice cliche. I could start a thread and post all kinds of games the SB Bills era teams won while not looking crisp. The other guys get paid meal money, too. Edited November 30, 2020 by Beast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 What do they need a pass for???? Shut this down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: That's a coaching problem, and it has been systemic. What gives your life joy? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, A Firm Tree Does Not Fear said: is this for real? you can't win a playoff game like that? they won. what are smoking. the comments in the last 24 hrs after this win are just unreal. just ***** unreal. Are we beating the Titans/Colts/Steelers/Chiefs giving up 3 turnovers in a row in the 4th? No we cannot win a playoff game like that. WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Tenhigh said: What gives your life joy? Attention on a message board. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: Counterpoint. Allen is a playmaker, and frankly I don't want that to change. I'll live with the occasional negative play if it means getting the highlight reel plays. You're going to have to learn to live with this sort of thing for the next ten years or so. Correct. You want the play in Dallas you gotta live with the play yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: Are we beating the Titans/Colts/Steelers/Chiefs giving up 3 turnovers in a row in the 4th? No we cannot win a playoff game like that. WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING? hit the bong again. seems you have no clue to what a W means in football. have a nice day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Ramza86 said: Are we beating the Titans/Colts/Steelers/Chiefs giving up 3 turnovers in a row in the 4th? No we cannot win a playoff game like that. WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING? If we score 27? Possibly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) Also, didn't Herbert pick up a fumbled snap yesterday and complete a pass? Or am I imagining that? It wasn't an especially dramatic play, but it just further reinforces the point that QBs don't normally just flop on every bad snap. (It's possible that I'm thinking of some other game). Edited November 30, 2020 by BillsFanSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 well...i guess it's great that there's a debate on whether a win is sufficient enough. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: Oh no, not the same Dolphins or Raiders that we already beat this year?!?!?!? This kind of cowardly talk is getting ridiculous. This is a very good Bills team, that when firing on all cylinders can be a great team, whether you are excited or not. Yup, there are a bunch of absolute, ( I’ll choose my words carefully ) sissy boy, bundle of sticks, British cigarette, fans on this board, and yes the are cowardly in their words. Okay now for a cup of coffee, woke up a bit later than usual... Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: If we score 27? Possibly. an the score could have been out of control if the turnovers didn't go down. no excusing the turnovers, but it could have been ugly. right now the bills biggest threat is themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, mjt328 said: At some point, this team needs to find an answer for the second-half collapses. Consider that it was less than 12 months ago that we boasted a 16-point lead over the Houston Texans in the Wild Card round of the playoffs. What could have been our first playoff victory in well over 20 years, was spoiled by a total mental breakdown on both sides of the ball. Missed tackles. Penalties. Sacks. Instead of learning from that comedy of errors, and improving in 2020, the Bills seem to have embraced the Texans game as our identity. A team that starts out of the gate strong, but struggles to close out opponents. Sorry if I can't get excited about 8-3. We had the same record last year, and even improved to 9-3 after our exciting Thanksgiving victory. It didn't stop us from ending the season 1-4, with the bitterly disappointing finish listed above. Eleven games in, I have seen ZERO improvement from this team as a whole. My last hope was that we could get some things right at the bye. But we didn't. Rest assured, the 2020 Bills are headed for the same kind of heartbreaking finish as 2019. The Dolphins continue to bite at our heels in the division, and I'm not 100% sure this thing ends with us a top the AFC East. If we somehow manage to scrape out 1st Place, I'm horrified at the prospect of a first-round exit courtesy of the Browns, Dolphins or Raiders. If you think this year's 8-3 is the same as last year's 8-3 then you haven't been paying enough attention. There have been no Dwayne Haskins, Eli Mannings, Andy Daltons or Brandon Allens on this schedule. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, mjt328 said: At some point, this team needs to find an answer for the second-half collapses. Consider that it was less than 12 months ago that we boasted a 16-point lead over the Houston Texans in the Wild Card round of the playoffs. What could have been our first playoff victory in well over 20 years, was spoiled by a total mental breakdown on both sides of the ball. Missed tackles. Penalties. Sacks. Instead of learning from that comedy of errors, and improving in 2020, the Bills seem to have embraced the Texans game as our identity. A team that starts out of the gate strong, but struggles to close out opponents. Sorry if I can't get excited about 8-3. We had the same record last year, and even improved to 9-3 after our exciting Thanksgiving victory. It didn't stop us from ending the season 1-4, with the bitterly disappointing finish listed above. Eleven games in, I have seen ZERO improvement from this team as a whole. My last hope was that we could get some things right at the bye. But we didn't. Rest assured, the 2020 Bills are headed for the same kind of heartbreaking finish as 2019. The Dolphins continue to bite at our heels in the division, and I'm not 100% sure this thing ends with us a top the AFC East. If we somehow manage to scrape out 1st Place, I'm horrified at the prospect of a first-round exit courtesy of the Browns, Dolphins or Raiders. how do you get through the day? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, teef said: an the score could have been out of control if the turnovers didn't go down. no excusing the turnovers, but it could have been ugly. right now the bills biggest threat is themselves. Josh Allen throws for 150 with two turnovers and we still score 27....that's actually a good sign. If this was the 2017 Bills, we score 10 points at the most. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropyrules Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 IMHO the problem is the Bills always find a way to steal a moment in the wrong direction. It seems they are the dominant team (Chiefs and Titans games excepted) for like 75% of the game but some bonehead play (Personal foul on a long and third by the D, Allen failing to fall on that snap-miscue, Singletary fumble, those completed Hail Mary passes, etc.) brings the other team back from the dead. I am super glad they won and I don't care how they did it but just once it would be great to watch them control the game from start to finish. Then again their antics are doing a good job of cleaning out my arteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 59 minutes ago, Magox said: Chargers are a talented team. This was their first loss (I believe) of more than 8 points. The Bills overcame 3 turnovers which cost them from winning this game by even more than they did and the defense and running game played well. Running the ball and playing good defense is what this team will need to be able to put themselves in better position to win games in the playoffs. Josh needs to be able to dissect zone defenses better but he did accurately throw the ball enough to keep moving the chains aside from that bad pick . All of this plus I thought the Bills had a strong game on Special Teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: Some people just don't it... but you do gene...you sure do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, streetkings01 said: The Chiefs just won their last 3 games by a total of 9 points.....it’s the NFL not the NCAA.....blowouts are not common in the NFL. They also scored 27 points with 500 some odd offensive yards and won by 3. Mahomes had like 3 picks called back on penalties too. Edited November 30, 2020 by dneveu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 34 minutes ago, mjt328 said: At some point, this team needs to find an answer for the second-half collapses. Consider that it was less than 12 months ago that we boasted a 16-point lead over the Houston Texans in the Wild Card round of the playoffs. What could have been our first playoff victory in well over 20 years, was spoiled by a total mental breakdown on both sides of the ball. Missed tackles. Penalties. Sacks. Instead of learning from that comedy of errors, and improving in 2020, the Bills seem to have embraced the Texans game as our identity. A team that starts out of the gate strong, but struggles to close out opponents. Sorry if I can't get excited about 8-3. We had the same record last year, and even improved to 9-3 after our exciting Thanksgiving victory. It didn't stop us from ending the season 1-4, with the bitterly disappointing finish listed above. Eleven games in, I have seen ZERO improvement from this team as a whole. My last hope was that we could get some things right at the bye. But we didn't. Rest assured, the 2020 Bills are headed for the same kind of heartbreaking finish as 2019. The Dolphins continue to bite at our heels in the division, and I'm not 100% sure this thing ends with us a top the AFC East. If we somehow manage to scrape out 1st Place, I'm horrified at the prospect of a first-round exit courtesy of the Browns, Dolphins or Raiders. LOL Our offense has went from 19 ppg in 2019 to 27 ppg in 2020....against more difficult competition. We have already faced 7 teams with winning records....our schedule is very difficult and we are still 8-3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: You know I do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: Shoulda won by 20+ Really poor showing in the 4th. Gave them every chance to come back and win that game. As long as the team learns from this and gets better we can move forward. It just seems like this is the same story every week, too many miscues at the wrong time. You cannot win a playoff game like that. Really? Didn’t Houston win a playoff game last year after being totally outplayed for 3 quarters? It happens every year. Teams get outplayed and find a way to win. Sometimes luck - sometimes skill, but the win counts. Hell KC was dominated by Houston for over a quarter and had a 21-0 lead. They came back. Even look at the KC/TB game yesterday. KC had a huge lead and record setting pace and then gets outplayed the rest of the game and let TB get back into. 2 questionable calls took away 2 Ints or TB wins that game. Yet you sit here and expect KC to win in the playoffs. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Some people just don't it... ... it’s just terrible being misunderstood... Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: It was tongue in cheek.... Just that they seemed off after the bye and did not seem sharp. It was too a game they could not afford to lose. The running game (outside Josh was not particularly good until the 4th... I call BS on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 42 minutes ago, Beast said: Nice cliche. I could atart a thread and post all kinds of games the SB Bills era teams won while not looking crisp. The other guys get paid meal money, too. Second half of KC game yesterday they didnt look good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: I am usually tough on the Bills and after yesterday's game, came away not very happy. Mostly it is always about the offense & yesterday they were out of sync & Bosa just killed them. Disjointed and just not a great game to watch. Concerned that they seem flat of late (outside of Seattle game). As for the running game, really it only came to life late in the game, and while stats look good, it put them in a hole early in the game. Again want to see a really dominant game (heck look at Atl yesterday). But this week I'll give them a pass. However no excuse vs. SF 49'ers & looking ahead to the Steelers, or similar excuses. This sounds like a "kissin' cousin" to the "Moral Victory". At one time we would lose games like this and look for a bright spot: "Our QB passed for over 300 yds and a TD!" Now we win and we got a "Moral Loss" society who wants to grade the win for style points and pronounce they will "give them a pass" We. Won. Allen said it when asked what his biggest takeaway was from the game: "We're 8 and 3" We won. They lost. Get over it. Moreover, thanks to solid play by the offense and some true Stud play in the clutch by our defense, we had the lead throughout the game, including answering back to maintain a 2 score lead in the 4th quarter. I've read people getting all kerfluffled like we almost let the Chargers win in the final minute. They had a chance to lose 24-27 instead of 17-27, that's it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Second half of KC game yesterday they didnt look good. After the 1st quarter, I went to the grocery store and ran some other errands. I figured by the time I get back, KC might have 60 points. Then I turned it back on....WTF happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, clayboy54 said: I call BS on this. Whatever you want to think. I came away from the game not happy at all, seeing it was a bye week & the bad taste in my mouth from the Arizona game (where there was some concern with the Bills play & playcalling on offense imo). I was really looking forward to the game and see the Bills assert themselves, which did not happen. However after sleeping on it (no did not toss & turn and dream about the Bills all night), I just thought that it was not a great game by them, that they'll learn from it & heck it was a win. Edited November 30, 2020 by Billsfan1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said: I hate when a 'flat' offense scores 27 points. And that was with 3 stupid back to back to back turnovers. I think we could have put up 37. We were moving the ball well and establishing the run well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Defense improved but Allen’s play has been shocking at times this season He cannot continue to be so inconsistent during games, on fire for one quarter and then a disaster the next. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Whatever you want to think. I came away from the game not happy at all, seeing it was a bye week & the bad taste in my mouth from the Arizona game (where there was some concern with the Bills play & playcalling on offense imo). I was really looking forward to the game and see the Bills assert themselves, which did not happen. However after sleeping on it (no did not toss & turn and dream about the Bills all night), I just thought that it was not a great game by them, that they'll learn from it & heck it was a win. not happy with a win. disgusting you take the cake. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 54 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: That's a coaching problem, and it has been systemic. Explain to me how coaching was the issue and the three turnovers yesterday? Serious question, are you being difficult on purpose? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: It was tongue in cheek.... Just that they seemed off after the bye and did not seem sharp. It was too a game they could not afford to lose. The running game (outside Josh was not particularly good until the 4th... Every hot take is tonguing cheek after you get lamb basted. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Whatever you want to think. I came away from the game not happy at all, seeing it was a bye week & the bad taste in my mouth from the Arizona game (where there was some concern with the Bills play & playcalling on offense imo). I was really looking forward to the game and see the Bills assert themselves, which did not happen. However after sleeping on it (no did not toss & turn and dream about the Bills all night), I just thought that it was not a great game by them, that they'll learn from it & heck it was a win. You are rarely happy when the Bills win - so get over it - you can go root for your actual team and go to their message board. Give them a pass - I am sure the Bills are grateful that you chose to give them a pass after beating the Chargers by their biggest margin of the season, holding the Chargers to their lowest scoring output since week 3, out coaching and out performing them, and once again winning the game and beating the Vegas odds. Glad you are hear to give them that pass. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: A pass? We won We tend to pass more than run although we ran more yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, mjt328 said: At some point, this team needs to find an answer for the second-half collapses. Consider that it was less than 12 months ago that we boasted a 16-point lead over the Houston Texans in the Wild Card round of the playoffs. What could have been our first playoff victory in well over 20 years, was spoiled by a total mental breakdown on both sides of the ball. Missed tackles. Penalties. Sacks. Instead of learning from that comedy of errors, and improving in 2020, the Bills seem to have embraced the Texans game as our identity. A team that starts out of the gate strong, but struggles to close out opponents. Sorry if I can't get excited about 8-3. We had the same record last year, and even improved to 9-3 after our exciting Thanksgiving victory. It didn't stop us from ending the season 1-4, with the bitterly disappointing finish listed above. Eleven games in, I have seen ZERO improvement from this team as a whole. My last hope was that we could get some things right at the bye. But we didn't. Rest assured, the 2020 Bills are headed for the same kind of heartbreaking finish as 2019. The Dolphins continue to bite at our heels in the division, and I'm not 100% sure this thing ends with us a top the AFC East. If we somehow manage to scrape out 1st Place, I'm horrified at the prospect of a first-round exit courtesy of the Browns, Dolphins or Raiders. This forum has gotten so whiny and sounds like this: "But why can't every Bill's player and coach make the perfect and better decision compared to his opponent 100% of the time, every time a decision or play has to be made, against other NFL caliber players and coaches???!?!" At least it'll give me comfort in the event that the Bills season comes to an end that so many idiots will be incomprehensibly irate. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Second half of KC game yesterday they didnt look good. But do they deserve a pass? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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