billsfan89 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 They played the Jets and honestly I think that INT got them some confidence. I think they were also a bit tired and worn from the past two weeks so getting a rest to start the half and make some adjustments was key. The defense was OK in the first half elite in the redzone and making big plays despite giving up a lot of yardage. But they came to play and knew what they had to do to close this game out. Hopefully this team can get far against a bad Pats team and run it up to 6-2 before they go to play a tough Seattle team. It also would be good to further bury NE in the division chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: The second half it seemed that the defense was clicking on all cylinders. So what's the difference between that and the last few weeks? Down and distance When our defense is consistently in second and 3 or Third and short . It really limits what you call defensively McDermott's and Frasier's pressure packages and exotic schemes can't get called in those distances Offenses have taken advantage of nickeling and diming us and getting us out of those packages Today in the second half we got the Jets into second and third and long. Which allowed McDermott and Frasier to get our pressure packages and disguises on the field We've been stuck in 2 and 4 so much that we had little of those opportunities this year that they really haven't even had time to gel when they call those packages Now it's only the Jets, but you can see why fraziers and mcdermotts pressure packages and disguises are very good. We bottle the quarterback up in the pocket, and swallow them up as a whole unit McDermotts scheme doesn't scheme up one pass rusher, it schemes up the whole unit as a whole to collapse the pocket and engulf the quarterback. In the second half the defenses overloads and green dogs confused darnold and had him seeing ghost's This is definitely something you could carry over into next week Why did the defense get its mojo back? We played the New Jersey minor league football team is how. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rk_Bills86 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I would say - we did not get our Mojo back. We played different packages and assignments that took away the middle of the field which has been taken advantage of recently. My football terminology isn't fantastic, but we also employed the equivalent to a QB spy on the RBs - although it was more of a pass off the assignment pending what was being shown. That single adjustment allowed us to play something similar to 5 on the line - while keeping it fluid enough to cover stuff out of the backfield / plug up gaps at the LoS instead of just beyond with for pull blocks / and have a pursuit on anything being bounced outside. We actually got a sack on a play where the assignment changed to watching the TE for a delay release - when the TE stayed in the block, the person changed his angle and got the sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 34 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: You do realize one of the definitions of mojo, is just to have an exceptional ability, good luck or success The Bill's defense definitely had their best success in the season in the second half. It Doesn't have to be a year long thing, today it clicked Sometimes success breeds success. All these guys are incredible athletes. Sometimes what it takes to beat the man across from you is believing you can do it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Sometimes success breeds success. All these guys are incredible athletes. Sometimes what it takes to beat the man across from you is believing you can do it Exactly It doesn't matter who the Bills beat . It matters that they get some confidence back , and start playing instead of thinking 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Why? Because the Jets aren’t that good.. Talk to me when our defense dominates a good team. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 It got better because they played the Jets Next question 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Sometimes success breeds success. All these guys are incredible athletes. Sometimes what it takes to beat the man across from you is believing you can do it Sometimes the homer glasses make things look better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, unclepete said: This team was shut out by the Dolphins. Let's not get carried away Flacco is washed up. The Jets are better with Darnold. Even though he sucked in the 2nd half, he's a huge upgrade from Flacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, McBean said: Why did the defense get its mojo back? We played the New Jersey minor league football team is how. We played them in the first half too.....and the minor league football team dominated our D for the most part. Then Darnold threw a terrible pick and the game was over for them on O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 People saying "it's just the jets" are missing the point. We started disguising coverages, crowding the line of scrimmage with 7 or 8 guys, blitzing with Poyer or Johnson, shooting the gaps on run plays. THAT'S what we've been looking for; it just happened to click against the Jets. Now, let's do it next week. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andysplaylist Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Jerry Hughes. The one series in the third quarter, the Bills worst quarter by far this year, he made a play on every play of that series, ending with a strip sack. Then he followed that up with a monster fourth with a pick to seal it. We don’t win this game without Jerry Hughes. Finally showed up and I don’t care if it’s the Jets. He plays like that, Bills defense will be getting off the field more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDCC Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Are you serious. We are a bad football team and will get smoked unless the trade goes through 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Why? Because the Jets aren’t that good.. Talk to me when our defense dominates a good team. serious question, but has anyone held another team ever to 4 yards in one half. I believe I read that is what happened today. Gotta admit— that is impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, DDCC said: Are you serious. We are a bad football team and will get smoked unless the trade goes through And what trade would that be, Grasshopper? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDCC Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Dude the Jets stink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) I think the Bill's D is figuring it out. I am still pretty confident the Bills will figure out the run defense and the elite Bills offense again once Brown gets healthy and can get back to stretching the field. Call me crazy but I still think the Bills we saw early in the season will return and I still believe they can win the Super Bowl. Edited October 25, 2020 by FUTURIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, DDCC said: Are you serious. We are a bad football team and will get smoked unless the trade goes through Shhhhh. Joeinwinslow and friends might hear you. You can't say bad things about the Bills. Its Homer all the time just like Homer radio on WGR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDCC Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 We are in serious conversation about a defensive tackle. All signs are pointing to Washington but potential sleeper out west. More to come 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuganuts Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Hard to put any stock in to the defense today. Miami shut them out last week. The Jets are absolutely horrendous im with you, BUTthe dolphins played them with Flacco....not Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I still want them to trade for that dude from Washington. A true nose tackle, an A gap guy, will help the mojo thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) They got it back b.c they were playing the Jets.... Edited October 25, 2020 by TBBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Bunch of terrible penalty calls against us today, from Tre getting a PI for touching his receiver’s hem; Hyde’s HUGE hit that was all shoulder & legit; their OL holding so many times. On the Hughes INT to end it, Jefferson? (#90, it was) managed to tip the ball even though his man had a COMPLETE FISTful of his jersey. Defenses aren’t being allowed to defend anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Shhhhh. Joeinwinslow and friends might hear you. You can't say bad things about the Bills. Its Homer all the time just like Homer radio on WGR. No it's anti-doomerism which is very refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, TBBills said: They got it back b.c they were playing the Jets.... Darnold was trying to get hot. The Jets actually have a few players over there. Giving up 4 yards in a half is tremendous. Give the Bills D some credit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said: Darnold was trying to get hot. The Jets actually have a few players over there. Giving up 4 yards in a half is tremendous. Give the Bills D some credit. The Jets have no one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, TBBills said: The Jets have no one... Score close all game....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Score close all game....... On a 10+ point spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, TBBills said: The Jets have no one... Disagree. Sounds like maybe you lost a bet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 17 minutes ago, DDCC said: We are in serious conversation about a defensive tackle. All signs are pointing to Washington but potential sleeper out west. More to come Are you the new Dunkirk Don? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, Real McNasty said: Are you the new Dunkirk Don? Oh geez there's a name I haven't heard in a while 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Disagree. Sounds like maybe you lost a bet? No don't ever bet on the Bills games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: People saying "it's just the jets" are missing the point. We started disguising coverages, crowding the line of scrimmage with 7 or 8 guys, blitzing with Poyer or Johnson, shooting the gaps on run plays. THAT'S what we've been looking for; it just happened to click against the Jets. Now, let's do it next week. I hope that is our mojo then going forward. I liked what I seen today regardless if it's the Jets or not. I want to see our D take calculated risks to try and make a big play. Pressure flat out works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 It seems like they were just flying around....they were swarming. If one tackle is broken, 2 more guys are there to clean up. It wasn't that way so far this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: The second half it seemed that the defense was clicking on all cylinders. So what's the difference between that and the last few weeks? Down and distance When our defense is consistently in second and 3 or Third and short . It really limits what you call defensively McDermott's and Frasier's pressure packages and exotic schemes can't get called in those distances Offenses have taken advantage of nickeling and diming us and getting us out of those packages Today in the second half we got the Jets into second and third and long. Which allowed McDermott and Frasier to get our pressure packages and disguises on the field We've been stuck in 2 and 4 so much that we had little of those opportunities this year that they really haven't even had time to gel when they call those packages Now it's only the Jets, but you can see why fraziers and mcdermotts pressure packages and disguises are very good. We bottle the quarterback up in the pocket, and swallow them up as a whole unit McDermotts scheme doesn't scheme up one pass rusher, it schemes up the whole unit as a whole to collapse the pocket and engulf the quarterback. In the second half the defenses overloads and green dogs confused darnold and had him seeing ghost's This is definitely something you could carry over into next week Honestly I don't think that has much to do with it. Bills have been terrible on 3rd down and ANY distance this year. I mean the Jets converted a 3rd and 20 earlier. KC converted a 3rd and 12. Teams have been converting 3rd and 10+ against us all year long. I think they started bringing pressure and that caused some confusion on the OLine blocking schemes which allowed the DLine to get free. Why did it take them 6.5 games to realize this might work better than what they have been trying and failing with for the first 6.5 games?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, TBBills said: They got it back b.c they were playing the Jets.... Yes the Jets aren't good. But giving up only 4 yards in one half is insanely impressive. If it's not impressive to hold any team to 4 yards because it happens all the time....then I will take back my statement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 My opinion was the new play caller for the JETS Once the Bills figured him out the D stepped up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Honestly I don't think that has much to do with it. Bills have been terrible on 3rd down and ANY distance this year. I mean the Jets converted a 3rd and 20 earlier. KC converted a 3rd and 12. Teams have been converting 3rd and 10+ against us all year long. I think they started bringing pressure and that caused some confusion on the OLine blocking schemes which allowed the DLine to get free. Why did it take them 6.5 games to realize this might work better than what they have been trying and failing with for the first 6.5 games?? They got back to their MO on 3rd down which is showing dual a gap looks on third down.. playing combination coverages and overload blitzes The first 6 weeks when we've been getting gaseds on 3rd and 15, and even in the first quarter verse the jets we've been playing basic cover four or cover 2 Which is not what Sean McDermott and Frasier have been doing successfully here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I love when McDermott puts his insight into the defense. Frazier and McDermott have two different beliefs Frazier does not believe in blitzing at all he believes in the Defensive line. McDermott believes in bringing the blitz and shaking things up lining his linebackers down over the center to cause the offensive line to wonder who is coming and it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 we'll see when they play an offense with some talent and a decent qb Its something to hold out hope for even though it was the lowly Jets and Sammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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