Should the Bills play the Broncos?

[Rochesterfan]

30 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said:

I was with you on this until I read the OPs suggestion. That is a great solution, it's simple and makes perfect sense. Lets go beat down the Broncos.

  How does this help?  I really do not see how us playing the Broncos makes any sense as that still leaves no opening for the Bills Tennessee game and now you have to find a schedule for pats Broncos. 
 

This would cause a domino effect of needing to move a bunch of other games to make it work.

 

I do not see the benefit - unlike the Pitts/Baltimore/Tennessee that could be moved with minimal impact.

 

 

3 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said:

@Rochesterfan Why are you against two healthy teams playing each other and keeping the season on track

  How does it help - you move one game, but still have to figure out what other games to fit in.

 

It is not like the Titans and Pats play so you could reschedule them together.

 

Present me the plan that shows me where our Titans game fits and where the Pats/Broncos game fits in later.

 

There are a million moving parts and playing the Broncos does not eliminate issues - it creates more problems as we move forward.

[ProcessAccepted]

11 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

  How does this help?  I really do not see how us playing the Broncos makes any sense as that still leaves no opening for the Bills Tennessee game and now you have to find a schedule for pats Broncos. 
 

This would cause a domino effect of needing to move a bunch of other games to make it work.

 

I do not see the benefit - unlike the Pitts/Baltimore/Tennessee that could be moved with minimal impact.

 

 

  How does it help - you move one game, but still have to figure out what other games to fit in.

 

It is not like the Titans and Pats play so you could reschedule them together.

 

Present me the plan that shows me where our Titans game fits and where the Pats/Broncos game fits in later.

 

There are a million moving parts and playing the Broncos does not eliminate issues - it creates more problems as we move forward.

You have 3 options.

1. make teams like the Titans forfeit games

This should be a last resort. The football season is already too short from a fans perspective but this option is unfair and not the way I want us to win the AFC East.

2. Let the Titans play the Bills and the Broncos play the Patriots

You are putting players from teams that do not have a problem into close proximity with teams that do. I have to imagine that Pat Mahomes is regretting his post game hug and chat with Gilmore today. And yes you can stop the post game contact but you will always have in game contact. 

3. Have the Bills play the Broncos and take the whack a mole approach to fitting in make up games as teams like the Titans and Patriots have cases.

As of right now there is no known issue for Buffalo and Denver. Makes sense to get that game done and not risk either of these teams getting exposed to teams that had new positive tests today. How does it serve the league if Josh Allen were to get covid after a game in Nashville against a weakened Titans team? 

 

The league needs to try and play as many of these games as safely as possible before this virus spreads as it is spreading. When they can make healthy teams play each other then that's what they should do. I hate making teams forfeit but I do not want the outcome of this season decided by who caught the thing and who didn't. If the Chiefs were to lose Mahomes for a few weeks they really wouldn't be the Chiefs. Remember Gilmore was testing negative on Monday even though he had teammates with Covid.  

[clayboy54]

I'd rather play the Giants!

[Unforgiven]

3 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

Tians should forfeit the game and learn to stay out of the bar district in Nashville.

pfft ...we should just burn anyone at the stake if they don't hide at home and wear a mask everywhere 

even in the bathroom.

jk ...but i'm sure half the country(wink wink) would sign up for that in a heartbeat.

[Tenhigh]

57 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

  How does this help?  I really do not see how us playing the Broncos makes any sense as that still leaves no opening for the Bills Tennessee game and now you have to find a schedule for pats Broncos. 
 

This would cause a domino effect of needing to move a bunch of other games to make it work.

 

I do not see the benefit - unlike the Pitts/Baltimore/Tennessee that could be moved with minimal impact.

 

 

  How does it help - you move one game, but still have to figure out what other games to fit in.

 

It is not like the Titans and Pats play so you could reschedule them together.

 

Present me the plan that shows me where our Titans game fits and where the Pats/Broncos game fits in later.

 

There are a million moving parts and playing the Broncos does not eliminate issues - it creates more problems as we move forward.

Give the Pats and Titans a tie.

[HappyDays]

I would support this if Patriots and Titans can't re-open. We would both have an equal disadvantage.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

NFL should add a week 18. 

[Rochesterfan]

5 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

Give the Pats and Titans a tie.

 

Pats and Titans don’t play.  
 

Why should they get a tie?

[Albany,n.y.]

3 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

Tians should forfeit the game and learn to stay out of the bar district in Nashville.

The problem isn't the Titans losing a game.  In fairness it's the Bills getting a win without playing and how it affects other teams in the playoff fight with us.  Let's look at it from another point of view:  Say the Bills are in a fight for homefield the division or a playoff spot.  The team they are trying to beat out gets a win via forfeit.  We'd be going crazy if NE got a "free" win. 

[IDBillzFan]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

NFL should add a week 18. 

 

Adding an extra week doesn't work if one team has to catch up multiple games.

 

While I'm not a fan of pushing this game, I would much rather push it out than do something like throw another team in the mix. But that's based almost exclusively on the idea that having an extra week to rest and prepare for KC would be crunk.

 

Is that right? Crunk? Did I use that right? 

 

I'm so effin' old. 

[Rochesterfan]

53 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said:

You have 3 options.

1. make teams like the Titans forfeit games

This should be a last resort. The football season is already too short from a fans perspective but this option is unfair and not the way I want us to win the AFC East.

2. Let the Titans play the Bills and the Broncos play the Patriots

You are putting players from teams that do not have a problem into close proximity with teams that do. I have to imagine that Pat Mahomes is regretting his post game hug and chat with Gilmore today. And yes you can stop the post game contact but you will always have in game contact. 

3. Have the Bills play the Broncos and take the whack a mole approach to fitting in make up games as teams like the Titans and Patriots have cases.

As of right now there is no known issue for Buffalo and Denver. Makes sense to get that game done and not risk either of these teams getting exposed to teams that had new positive tests today. How does it serve the league if Josh Allen were to get covid after a game in Nashville against a weakened Titans team? 

 

The league needs to try and play as many of these games as safely as possible before this virus spreads as it is spreading. When they can make healthy teams play each other then that's what they should do. I hate making teams forfeit but I do not want the outcome of this season decided by who caught the thing and who didn't. If the Chiefs were to lose Mahomes for a few weeks they really wouldn't be the Chiefs. Remember Gilmore was testing negative on Monday even though he had teammates with Covid.  

 

So you play the Bills/Broncos.  Now the Bills have a second open week, but the Titans don’t.

 

So this means the Bills/Broncos play now.  The Bills have potentially 2 bye weeks later in the season, but then has to play in a created bye week after the season and before the playoffs because the Titans have no other openings.

 

Plus now you have to shoe horn in a Broncos/Pats game that at this point has no reason to be postponed.  This is the exact reason the PS was expanded.

 

They should be testing the Pats and if they are following protocol.  The team practices Friday/Sat with the Covid players inactive and the game goes on.

 

The Pats at this point are very different from the Titans.

Edited October 7, 2020 by Rochesterfan

[Buffalo_Stampede]

8 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Adding an extra week doesn't work if one team has to catch up multiple games.

 

While I'm not a fan of pushing this game, I would much rather push it out than do something like throw another team in the mix. But that's based almost exclusively on the idea that having an extra week to rest and prepare for KC would be crunk.

 

Is that right? Crunk? Did I use that right? 

 

I'm so effin' old. 

You adjust as needed.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Wouldn't this in theory benefit an offense which dictates the plays, more so than a defense gameplanning to respond to tendencies? First franchise 500 yard game? Yes, please! 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_500-yard_passing_games_in_the_National_Football_League  

[IgotBILLStopay]

4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Maybe the Bills should play the Broncos since they are both in the same situation.  They are talking about it on WGR and Jeremy White brings up a good point.

The league doesn't want to move the Chiefs/Bills TNF game.  

 

Baseball did this when the Marlins had their outbreak.  They flipped games here and there to make it work.

I love this idea!!  Call Tennessee - NE a tie - so no team is unduly penalized yet the season can go on. And guys stay safe. Yes the Broncos or Bills will get an extra home game - but that is a small price to pay.

[formerlyofCtown]

4 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

Tians should forfeit the game and learn to stay out of the bar district in Nashville.

Was there a new expansion team.  Who are these Tians you speak of.

[MJS]

39 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:

pfft ...we should just burn anyone at the stake if they don't hide at home and wear a mask everywhere 

even in the bathroom.

jk ...but i'm sure half the country(wink wink) would sign up for that in a heartbeat.

Are you saying the NFL, a private business, does not have the right to enforce clearly defined policies on its employees?

[IgotBILLStopay]

4 hours ago, Estro said:

I suppose its an idea that's possible, but I'm sure the Bills would want no part of it.  

 

Denver is a further road trip than Nashville and with a quick turnaround to face the Chiefs this Thursday thats somethng the Bills would surely not appreaciate.

 

If we were playing a game next Sunday vs. the Chiefs I'd think a move like that would be more of a possibility, but with a game Thursday I just dont see it happening

can schedule it at Bills  no? For Denver it is a shorter trip to WNY than Foxborough

Edited October 7, 2020 by IgotBILLStopay

[Captain Caveman]

1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said:

  How does this help?  I really do not see how us playing the Broncos makes any sense as that still leaves no opening for the Bills Tennessee game and now you have to find a schedule for pats Broncos. 
 

This would cause a domino effect of needing to move a bunch of other games to make it work.

 

I do not see the benefit - unlike the Pitts/Baltimore/Tennessee that could be moved with minimal impact.

 

 

  How does it help - you move one game, but still have to figure out what other games to fit in.

 

It is not like the Titans and Pats play so you could reschedule them together.

 

Present me the plan that shows me where our Titans game fits and where the Pats/Broncos game fits in later.

 

There are a million moving parts and playing the Broncos does not eliminate issues - it creates more problems as we move forward.

 

Pats / Broncos is also at risk with 3 players having tested positive within a week, and the Pats have gone remote today.

[Rochesterfan]

4 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

I love this idea!!  Call Tennessee - NE a tie - so no team is unduly penalized yet the season can go on. And guys stay safe. Yes the Broncos or Bills will get an extra home game - but that is a small price to pay.

 

For the hundredth time - NE/Tenn do not play this year.  
 

NE plays Houston and Tenn plays Buffalo.

 

The only way to make that work would be switch Houston and Tennessee on the schedules and now you have to figure out where they would fit.

 

Moving 1 game - like trying to get the Bills/Broncos this weekend - would most likely mean the NFL would have to determine and shift a minimum of 6 or 7 additional games at minimum and still does not open a spot for Bills/Titans as the Titans bye week is passed.

 

You basically would need to switch the Bills/Pats scheduled AFC south games and then rearrange a bunch of schedules to find where Bill/Houston fits and how NE/Denver has a new location.

 

 

[IgotBILLStopay]

4 hours ago, Just Joshin' said:

Points for creativity but not sure the logistics work.

 

It will work this season - since there are no fans in WNY - so no need to arrange tailgating, parking etc. It is only team logistics. Was arranged quite easily when the Chiefs Pats game was moved to Monday.

[Yav]

4 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

Tians should forfeit the game and learn to stay out of the bar district in Nashville.

This right here is a great idea. They should forfeit or play with backups and practice squad players. 

Can't follow the rules you pay the price.

[IgotBILLStopay]

1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said:

  How does this help?  I really do not see how us playing the Broncos makes any sense as that still leaves no opening for the Bills Tennessee game and now you have to find a schedule for pats Broncos. 
 

This would cause a domino effect of needing to move a bunch of other games to make it work.

 

I do not see the benefit - unlike the Pitts/Baltimore/Tennessee that could be moved with minimal impact.

 

 

  How does it help - you move one game, but still have to figure out what other games to fit in.

 

It is not like the Titans and Pats play so you could reschedule them together.

 

Present me the plan that shows me where our Titans game fits and where the Pats/Broncos game fits in later.

 

There are a million moving parts and playing the Broncos does not eliminate issues - it creates more problems as we move forward.

Titans NE will play if there is an extra week. Otherwise it is ruled a tie. That is the plan. At least the teams dont forfeit, no? so they are not as heavily penalized.

[Rochesterfan]

5 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

 

Pats / Broncos is also at risk with 3 players having tested positive within a week, and the Pats have gone remote today.

 And remote tomorrow also - they seem to be following protocol as best they can - unlike Tennessee.

 

I could see this game get shifted to Monday or Tuesday if no more pats test positive (or even 1 more from the initial contact with Cam).

[machine gun kelly]

4 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

Does anyone know what the NFL's contingency plan was for postponed games?

 

Having the Bills play the Broncos this week just ensures that one more game gets played. The opening a slot in the schedule on December 20 doesn't necessarily help the rescheduling issues.

 

 

why not just play the Titans and who cares about the pats.  I don’t know if the Pats did anything wrong although I wouldn’t put it past them, but over 20 now for the Titans tells me something went wrong even if innocent by nature.  I’m guessing of the league can pin something on the Titans, they will.  There is way too much $ on the line, and they are probably looking hard if they did something stupid like the Raiders players.  They are lucky they didn’t have a much larger outbreak. 

[Captain Caveman]

4 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 And remote tomorrow also - they seem to be following protocol as best they can - unlike Tennessee.

 

I could see this game get shifted to Monday or Tuesday if no more pats test positive (or even 1 more from the initial contact with Cam).

None of us actually knows what happened in NE or Tennessee.  You're assuming NE won't continue to have more positive tests - if they do I'd be surprised if that game is played.

[Rochesterfan]

5 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

Titans NE will play if there is an extra week. Otherwise it is ruled a tie. That is the plan. At least the teams dont forfeit, no? so they are not as heavily penalized.

 

No the two teams are not on each other’s schedules.  The Bills play the Titans and NE plays Houston.

 

If you give the Pats/Tenn a tie they will both have 17 games.

 

You can only give them both a tie if you adjust the Bills/Pats schedules and move Tenn to play NE and the Bills play Houston.  Then you still need to figure out where that game fits in the schedule - as this would become a bye week this week for us

[par73]

5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Maybe the Bills should play the Broncos since they are both in the same situation.  They are talking about it on WGR and Jeremy White brings up a good point.

The league doesn't want to move the Chiefs/Bills TNF game.  

 

Baseball did this when the Marlins had their outbreak.  They flipped games here and there to make it work.

Right. I remember the Yankees ended up playing the Orioles (I think they were scheduled to play the Phils).

[IgotBILLStopay]

43 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

For the hundredth time - NE/Tenn do not play this year.  
 

NE plays Houston and Tenn plays Buffalo.

 

The only way to make that work would be switch Houston and Tennessee on the schedules and now you have to figure out where they would fit.

 

Moving 1 game - like trying to get the Bills/Broncos this weekend - would most likely mean the NFL would have to determine and shift a minimum of 6 or 7 additional games at minimum and still does not open a spot for Bills/Titans as the Titans bye week is passed.

 

You basically would need to switch the Bills/Pats scheduled AFC south games and then rearrange a bunch of schedules to find where Bill/Houston fits and how NE/Denver has a new location.

 

 

I don’t understand why TEN - NE not being on the schedule is a problem. Bills and Broncos can play each other twice - will be like a divisional matchup no?

[frostbitmic]

If a player or players on a team test positive for covid they should be out, in quarantine for two weeks, NEXT MAN UP. They did add additional players to the PS for just these circumstances, on with the game, if a team can't play, they forfeit.

 

It shouldn't be that difficult.

 

 

[SinceThe70s]

1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

why not just play the Titans and who cares about the pats.  I don’t know if the Pats did anything wrong although I wouldn’t put it past them, but over 20 now for the Titans tells me something went wrong even if innocent by nature.  I’m guessing of the league can pin something on the Titans, they will.  There is way too much $ on the line, and they are probably looking hard if they did something stupid like the Raiders players.  They are lucky they didn’t have a much larger outbreak. 

 

I started with the premise that playing the Titans this week was off the table. If the NFL thinks it's safe to play the game, I'm on board. I agree there's a lot of $ on the line and I don't think the NFL would put the Bills at unnecessary risk because doing so puts the $ at unnecessary risk too. 

[Doc Brown]

5 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

Does anyone know what the NFL's contingency plan was for postponed games?

 

Having the Bills play the Broncos this week just ensures that one more game gets played. The opening a slot in the schedule on December 20 doesn't necessarily help the rescheduling issues.

The NFL's cavalier approach to making the schedule business as usual seems to be backfiring.  They should've included multiple bye weeks to be able to move missed games.

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

I don’t understand why TEN - NE not being on the schedule is a problem. Bills and Broncos can play each other twice - will be like a divisional matchup no?

 

So what you are suggesting is the Bills play the Broncos twice this year and not Tennessee and that instead of the Broncos - NE skips the week and gets a tie with Tennessee.

 

I can not imagine the league will go for a major change to the schedule.  They will adjust and play the games.

[Rochesterfan]

15 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

The NFL's cavalier approach to making the schedule business as usual seems to be backfiring.  They should've included multiple bye weeks to be able to move missed games.

This was discussed - to add additional bye weeks or changes to the length of the season had to be agreed to by the players.  That along with the Bubble was a no go for the NFLPA.  
 

The NFL/NFLPA has contingency plans and agreement to make minor adjustments as needed, but it was never allowed to automatically extend the season.

 

My understanding from different reports is that the NFL has scheduled the Stadium for the Super Bowl for the entire month of February (and this was confirmed on One Bills Live earlier today).  That gives them an addition 3 weeks - plus the scheduled week in between to adjust the schedule if needed.  They have no plans to pause the season because the thought is this is going to get worse as we move along.

 

They also have shown that the protocol works - individual players may flag, but you can isolate and work around.  There has not been a case yet to be shown of transmission on the field.  The problem is the Titans and Raiders did not follow protocol and the Titans are seeing the full effect of that.

 

 

[SinceThe70s]

56 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

The NFL's cavalier approach to making the schedule business as usual seems to be backfiring.  They should've included multiple bye weeks to be able to move missed games.

 

It's a good point. The NHL and NBA went with the bubble, MLB had a plan to make up games on off days and with 7 inning doubleheaders. The NFL really made no concessions except acknowledging the season might get extended.

 

I'm not in backfire mode just yet, but it's not looking good. Early in the MLB season things looked pretty bleak but somehow it never got untenable. With the NFL it's easy to envision things going downhill quickly.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

7 hours ago, Beast said:

Why not? The Broncos are playing their 3rd string QB.

 

Maybe we can squeeze a double header in and play the Jets right after?

 

LOL

this is awesome- put both rosters together and you still start Joe Flacco 

[Rochesterfan]

2 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

It's a good point. The NHL and NBA went with the bubble, MLB had a plan to make up games on off days and with 7 inning doubleheaders. The NFL really made no concessions except acknowledging the season might get extended.

 

I'm not in backfire mode just yet, but it's not looking good. Early in the MLB season things looked pretty bleak but somehow it never got untenable. With the NFL it's easy to envision things going downhill quickly.

 

Why?  
 

There has not been once known case transmitted on the field.  
 

The individual positive tests in NE, KC, and Atl - the players were isolated and they identified close contacts and in NE - Gilmore became positive - now he is isolated and they will trace him.

 

The Raiders did not follow protocol and were lucky to have no positives from their gaffe.  The one positive has been identified and tracing is working that.

 

The Titans had multiple breaches of protocol and they have the monster cases.  
 

What I see is that following the protocol is of utmost importance.  Just like in MLB where it was identified that the Cardinals and Marlins broke protocol and cause all of the issues.

 

I have seen nothing that suggests at this point the NFL is in trouble.  The protocol was created to identify and trace and play on.  The teams that do not follow protocol should be punished and the teams that are should be able to move forward.

 

A positive test does not mean anyone broke protocol - the NFL was adamant that then knew there would be positives.  This was bound to happen when the NFLPA did not want to bubble, but if the teams are doing it right - you can contain and isolate and keep games moving forward.

[JMF2006]

3 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

The problem isn't the Titans losing a game.  In fairness it's the Bills getting a win without playing and how it affects other teams in the playoff fight with us.  Let's look at it from another point of view:  Say the Bills are in a fight for homefield the division or a playoff spot.  The team they are trying to beat out gets a win via forfeit.  We'd be going crazy if NE got a "free" win. 

 

Wouldn't it be nice to see them get all bent over it

3 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

pfft ...we should just burn anyone at the stake if they don't hide at home and wear a mask everywhere 

even in the bathroom.

jk ...but i'm sure half the country(wink wink) would sign up for that in a heartbeat.

 

Not what I am suggesting at all but the players were told not to do these things.

 

If your not playing pro sports I couldn't give a rats behind what your doing.

[IgotBILLStopay]

1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

So what you are suggesting is the Bills play the Broncos twice this year and not Tennessee and that instead of the Broncos - NE skips the week and gets a tie with Tennessee.

 

I can not imagine the league will go for a major change to the schedule.  They will adjust and play the games.

yes. sry if I was unclear earlier

[Chicharito]

Why not and if we can’t play the titans in week 15 play the broncos again! Just get 16 games in!

[Tenhigh]

2 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

So what you are suggesting is the Bills play the Broncos twice this year and not Tennessee and that instead of the Broncos - NE skips the week and gets a tie with Tennessee.

 

I can not imagine the league will go for a major change to the schedule.  They will adjust and play the games.

 The tie for NE/Tenn is what people had in mind that had you so upset, lol.  A pretty simple schedule change could keep everything else moving forward on the NFL's existing timeline.  It's not a terrible option.