Just a reminder that live NFL football is back starting tonight at 8:20pm on NBC

[Jerome007]

Just now, C.Biscuit97 said:

I just think it’s disingenuous that people were upset about Kaep taking a knee than Joe Mixon breaking a woman’s jaw. I think there are a lot of phony patriots and I would have quit the Bills if they drafted Mixon.  I’m weird and think domestic violence is worse than silent protesting, which is what our country is founded on.  
 

I also missed all the patriotic fans calling out other fans for going to the bathroom, getting beers, and talking during the anthem before CK.  It’s funny to me that some of the most “patriotic” fans don’t realize they are just pawns by politicians who are pandering to them for votes.

 

if Incognito wanted to take a knee for the orange thing, I won’t care.  But it does bother me more than the guy is a trash person who got arrested for threatening to beat up his grandmother, throw weights at people in a gym, and threaten to shoot up a funeral home.  Again, missed the outrage on him getting another contract.  

Kaep is an indivual, so is Incognito. The difference THIS YEAR would be that the NFL itself, the league, is pushing issues on us while we just want to watch sports.

 

In all those discussions, people supporting BLM and such want to mock other fans not liking this pushed on us by a sports league. Yet most of us don't argue for or against the POV, but the fact a sports league will push one such POV during a time we want to focus on something else. Football and Bills football is what draw us on this board yet we are totally divided on this topic. What good would come to the NFL to lose viewership? You'd be satisfied just because you think all of us peons with different POVs absolutely must be convinced, no matter the way?

[C.Biscuit97]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

We can take this to PPP where it is still being discussed if you like, so as not to bring politics onto the main board.

 

Why? So all the weirdos there can gang up on me because I don’t the same view as that echo chamber?  This whole thread is political but there has been zero name calling and has been civil.  
 

I know it’s a wild concept in our country that that becomes dumber by the day, but you can have rational conversations with people who don’t have the same opinion as you.  

[whatdrought]

5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I would have stop watching the Bills if they drafted Mixon.  I would have stopped if they signed Vick.  I also didn’t draft Mixon in fantasy because of character concerns. 😉

Hang on- let’s go back to your initial claim: 

 

21 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

So domestic violence didn’t dissuade you from watching but silent protesting for equality might be the final straw?  Seems reasonable.

My understanding of your point here is that conscientious people who are against domestic violence should not watch the NFL because doing so is an active support of domestic violence? Is that your point with this?

 

- if it’s not, please explain your point so I can understand before trying to respond or counter. 

Edited September 10, 2020 by whatdrought

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Why? So all the weirdos there can gang up on me because I don’t the same view as that echo chamber?  This whole thread is political but there has been zero name calling and has been civil.  
 

I know it’s a wild concept in our country that that becomes dumber by the day, but you can have rational conversations with people who don’t have the same opinion as you.  

Because political discussions are in PPP? 🤷‍♂️

 

Edited September 10, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal

[MJS]

1 hour ago, RiotAct said:

hopefully they don’t show any replays of the Texans’ playoff win over the Bills, I don’t know if I could take that.

They are going to show Watson breaking out of the sack at least 5 times.

[Shaw66]

51 minutes ago, H2o said:

I've just found other things I like to do more than spend every waking moment in front of the television just because a game, any game, is on. I'll be at the gym with my sons during the first half of the game more than likely and then preparing for my work day tomorrow when I get home. Covid and the ensuing effects have shown me that I really don't care about sports in general as much as I thought I did. I will still watch my favorite teams play and root for them, but the luster of it all has definitely faded. I used to have like 3 FF leagues every year as well up until this year, but now I'm only in one and halfway could care less about that as well. If that doesn't make sense to some? Oh well, and by no means am I directing that as a slight at you my friend. Just saying in general. 

Your post is a good indicator of the long-term changes COVID is driving.  People's interests ARE changing.  

 

I can respect that.  I'm changing too, but i think I'm still hooked on the NFL.

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, Jerome007 said:

Kaep is an indivual, so is Incognito. The difference THIS YEAR would be that the NFL itself, the league, is pushing issues on us while we just want to watch sports.

 

In all those discussions, people supporting BLM and such want to mock other fans not liking this pushed on us by a sports league. Yet most of us don't argue for or against the POV, but the fact a sports league will push one such POV during a time we want to focus on something else. Football and Bills football is what draw us on this board yet we are totally divided on this topic. What good would come to the NFL to lose viewership? You'd be satisfied just because you think all of us peons with different POVs absolutely must be convinced, no matter the way?

I know plenty of people who genuinely don’t want sports to get political either way because it is their escape and I totally respect that.

 

i also know some trash human being you are racist scum who love football yet hate the people that play it.  So I don’t have any problem with that trash getting weeded out.  They can go watch bowling. 

[SirAndrew]

1 hour ago, Back2Buff said:

Who wants to watch a political demonstration?  It will have a CNN feel.

 

I will watch the Bills this year, won't be watching the other games.

People who love football. I used to attend tons of concerts because I love music. I can't tell you how many musicians went on rants that I didn’t agree with politically. I was there because I enjoyed the product, and maybe that person I disagree might even be a decent person, I just disagree. I don’t ban my uncle for the Thanksgiving dinner because I don’t agree with him politically. I’m never going to let politics take away something I enjoy. 

Edited September 10, 2020 by SirAndrew

[JMF2006]

10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I do respect that point.  I also think there are a lot of terrible people who watch football who are racist and make the world worse everyday.  The NFL would be better off without them. 

 

The rapists and murders in prison probably tune in to every game  

[C.Biscuit97]

3 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Hang on- let’s go back to your initial claim: 

 

My understanding of your point here is that conscientious people who are against domestic violence should not watch the NFL because doing so is an active support of domestic violence? Is that your point with this?

 

- if it’s not, please explain your point so I can understand before trying to respond or counter. 

I think if you are more upset by social justice and silent protesting than domestic violence, your values are badly misaligned.  
 

Like if the NfL did stuff for woman’s rights or gay rights, even though I’m not either of those things, I can’t imagine how in the world that would bother me.  It’s insane that it would. 

5 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

People who love football. I used to attend tons of concerts because I love music. I can't tell you how many musicians went on rants that I didn’t agree with politically. I was there because I enjoyed the product, and maybe that person I disagree might even be a decent person, I just disagree. I don’t ban my uncle for the Thanksgiving dinner because I don’t agree with him politically, so why I’m never going to let politics take away something I enjoy. 

I saw a text to the guitarist of Rage Against the machine who didn’t like him getting “political” all of a sudden.

[whatdrought]

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I think if you are more upset by social justice and silent protesting than domestic violence, your values are badly misaligned.  
 

Like if the NfL did stuff for woman’s rights or gay rights, even though I’m not either of those things, I can’t imagine how in the world that would bother me.  It’s insane that it would. 

Well, I assume you watch football- as you’re here. I also assume you watch games involving certain players with bad backgrounds (did you watch week three last year?) - does this viewership mean you support or don’t care about domestic violence? Or do you draw a distinction between some of the bad apples out there and the general whole while personally not rooting for those bad dudes?

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

Hot female fox?

That would be a vixen.

[Chicken Boo]

24 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I would have stop watching the Bills if they drafted Mixon.  I would have stopped if they signed Vick.  I also didn’t draft Mixon in fantasy because of character concerns. 😉

 

I'm curious as to what your feelings are on Jim Kelly?  And you know exactly what I'm talking about.

[DFT]

The NFL has made its choice on where it feels it’s focus should be.  America has to make its choice of whether to support the NFL.  Personally, I think you can celebrate the NFL’s stance while not agreeing with everything they do, say or feel.  I think you can celebrate freedom of speech and expression even when what’s expressed isn’t how you feel.  I’m glad the NFL has given it’s players and coaches a voice.  I intend to hear the message (Intently) and how it’s conveyed because it’s important to those who convey it.  If it broaches a line beyond where the message should go, then I’ll reserve my rights as a listener.  But I have a lot of confidence in how these young men can deliver through their platform.  

[RiotAct]

20 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

People who love football. I used to attend tons of concerts because I love music. I can't tell you how many musicians went on rants that I didn’t agree with politically. I was there because I enjoyed the product, and maybe that person I disagree might even be a decent person, I just disagree. I don’t ban my uncle for the Thanksgiving dinner because I don’t agree with him politically. I’m never going to let politics take away something I enjoy. 

agree 100%.  Most of the best musicians are flaming liberals.

 

Well, most musicians in general... 😉

[LB3]

1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

I'm curious as to what your feelings are on Jim Kelly?  And you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Every time he brings up Mixon (seems almost daily) I laugh at the irony of his screen name.

[JMF2006]

13 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

That would be a vixen.

[ColoradoBills]

9 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

People who love football. I used to attend tons of concerts because I love music. I can't tell you how many musicians went on rants that I didn’t agree with politically. I was there because I enjoyed the product, and maybe that person I disagree might even be a decent person, I just disagree. I don’t ban my uncle for the Thanksgiving dinner because I don’t agree with him politically, so why I’m I going to let it take away something I enjoy. 

 

Well said Sir Andrew.

 

We live in a new world where everyone is trying to influence everyone else for a myriad of reasons.  It's everywhere all the time.

From Madison Ave to Pennsylvania Ave to Amphitheatre Pkwy and all points in between.  Why anyone is shocked that it would seep it's

way into sports and One Bills Drive makes me just slowly shake my head.

 

We all helped to create this and we just have to learn to live with it in our own way.  I'll get off my Hyde Park soapbox now with the hope that the world

can learn to keep it's emotions in check and loose them in the right place at the right time.

 

It does make me laugh at myself for "giving my opinion" in public which goes against my better judgement!

 

 

[JMF2006]

Look we are all humans and we are all flawed.

 

Lets get back to the game of football

Edited September 10, 2020 by JMF2006
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[Mr. WEO]

people just can't enjoy themselves..

 

football fans won't miss this game.

[Brennan Huff]

I’m so excited that I’ll definitely be watching with my pants off. But I’ll also be in bed, because 8:20 PM is past my bedtime. 

[ColoradoBills]

7 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

agree 100%.  Most of the best musicians are flaming liberals.

 

Well, most musicians in general... 😉

 

LOL, I was thinking of enjoying both a Ted Nugent and a Linda Ronstadt concert when @SirAndrew brought that up!

Showing my age here!

[Mark Vader]

33 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

Geez, I figured this would be a positive, happy thread. When I started it I figured we could all share in the excitement of having NFL football back. Shows what I know... 🤷‍♂️😂

That's TBD for ya. 

 

I'm looking forward to watching tonight's game, although I won't be finished with work in time to watch the entire game. I love football, so I'm ready for the season to start tonight.

 

Of course the excitement will come from everyone here on Sunday.

 

Now with NFL football starting tonight, we can now say that in 2020, September is the greatest month in sports.

[Nextmanup]

I saw a commercial for the game last night, and was like "Oh my God, that's right!  There's a TNF game tomorrow!"

I had completely forgotten about it and wasn't prepared for it.

 

I'll be watching.

 

 

[HappyDays]

So is every game thread now going to be people coming in to say they will not be watching the game? If you don't want to watch the NFL that's your right. Why do you need to let everyone know?

[whatdrought]

Just now, HappyDays said:

So is every game thread now going to be people coming in to say they will not be watching the game? If you don't want to watch the NFL that's your right. Why do you need to let everyone know?

 

Maybe we can have two threads: one for those watching, and one for those not watching where they can discuss how they’re not watching....

[C.Biscuit97]

6 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Your post is a good indicator of the long-term changes COVID is driving.  People's interests ARE changing.  

 

I can respect that.  I'm changing too, but i think I'm still hooked on the NFL.

I will say there was a time If you told me that if sports was going away for months, I don’t know if I would have made it.  But I didn’t miss it nearly as much as I thought I would.

 

that said, I didn’t have to miss the Bills and that’s a whole different level.  I couldn’t imagine not having the Bills.  

[Brennan Huff]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

So is every game thread now going to be people coming in to say they will not be watching the game? If you don't want to watch the NFL that's your right. Why do you need to let everyone know?

Because they think they are American patriots by “boycotting” the NFL. Just like vegans, they need to let everyone know that they are better than you 

[C.Biscuit97]

14 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

I'm curious as to what your feelings are on Jim Kelly?  And you know exactly what I'm talking about.

I think Kelly is the most overrated player in Bills history and I know he’s a scumbag who “found” God.  Also C.Biscuit is just a play on sea biscuit.

 

but I’m not the one saying I’m not going to watch.  I love football.  Just pointing that if social justice is your breaking point and not all the other Terrible things football players do, your morals are messed up. 

[Nextmanup]

1 hour ago, H2o said:

I've just found other things I like to do more than spend every waking moment in front of the television just because a game, any game, is on. I'll be at the gym with my sons during the first half of the game more than likely and then preparing for my work day tomorrow when I get home. Covid and the ensuing effects have shown me that I really don't care about sports in general as much as I thought I did. I will still watch my favorite teams play and root for them, but the luster of it all has definitely faded. I used to have like 3 FF leagues every year as well up until this year, but now I'm only in one and halfway could care less about that as well. If that doesn't make sense to some? Oh well, and by no means am I directing that as a slight at you my friend. Just saying in general. 

This Covid craziness has changed the way I view sports as well.

 

Not in terms of not wanting to watch live games--that's the only part I still love--but in terms of wasting countless hours on a daily basis "following" sports and listening to sports talk radio.

 

I kicked the radio habit and haven't listened to hardly anything since March.  Haven't really followed the daily stuff with the team.

 

Used to listen to hours of sports radio all day; I've replaced with that with much more meaningful pursuits.

 

But the games--at least the good ones, the big ones, the Bills--I will still watch and enjoy.

 

 

[NickelCity]

1 hour ago, arcane said:

Seriously, so many people were needlessly obnoxiously pessimistic 6 months ago. Glad they're eating crow, except they'll never actually admit it

 

I was hesitant about the season going the distance (fingers crossed it does). Why do you think people won't "admit it" lol? It's not like there's a sinister cabal of Bills fans who were actively working to have the season canceled in the name of a pandemic. Take a chill pill with some beer, football's back!

 

 

[Nextmanup]

5 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:

Because they think they are American patriots by “boycotting” the NFL. Just like vegans, they need to let everyone know that they are better than you 

Wow, only 2 sentences and you took a solid shot at the left and right wing at the same time! 

Good work.

 

 

8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I will say there was a time If you told me that if sports was going away for months, I don’t know if I would have made it.  But I didn’t miss it nearly as much as I thought I would.

 

that said, I didn’t have to miss the Bills and that’s a whole different level.  I couldn’t imagine not having the Bills.  

When everything startied shutting down at the same time, it hit me pretty hard!  I like watching a variety of sports on TV and for quite a while there, nothing was going on.  It forced me to find other things to do, and I did.  I have new habits built up now and I hope to not piss away so much time "following sports" in the future.

 

I will still enjoy game discussion here and things like that, as the Bills season unfolds.

 

If the Sabres ever resume playing hockey (LOL) I will watch games, but little more.

 

I have seen maybe 2 NHL playoff games so far, thought both were boring and "off" with no crowd...haven't seen much. 

Etc.

 

 

Edited September 10, 2020 by Nextmanup

[whatdrought]

1 minute ago, NickelCity said:

 

I was hesitant about the season going the distance (fingers crossed it does). Why do you think people won't "admit it" lol? It's not like there's a sinister cabal of Bills fans who were actively working to have the season canceled in the name of a pandemic. Take a chill pill with some beer, football's back!

 

 

 

I mean, wasn’t the entire media world up in arms about how going on with Free Agency and the draft was the biggest mistake the NFL could possibly make and it would end in disaster? Did those guys ever admit they were wrong? People like to be sensationalist but rarely admit when they’re full of it.

[H2o]

2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I will say there was a time If you told me that if sports was going away for months, I don’t know if I would have made it.  But I didn’t miss it nearly as much as I thought I would.

 

that said, I didn’t have to miss the Bills and that’s a whole different level.  I couldn’t imagine not having the Bills.  

I actually prepared myself for it mentally tbh because I didn't know how all of this would play out. It would have definitely been different to not have Saturday's with Notre Dame football and Sunday's with Bills football, but not having an NCAA Basketball Tourney this year really made everything sink in for me. It also gave me time to get out and do a bunch of different things with my kids that we typically wouldn't do together as often as we have the last few months. Their life was school, video games, and doing whatever on the weekends with their friends usually outside of going to theme parks or recreational type places. When school and hanging out with their friends all the time was taken away we started doing a lot of things together that we didn't do as often anymore. Things were changing because they were getting older and life does that to kids as they get into their teens. In some ways the pandemic has brought us all closer again, even though many of the other lingering effects are still a pain in the nuggets. I will enjoy it while it lasts because they are only young for so long and then adulthood happens for them as well. 

[Mark Vader]

10 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

[Putin]

45 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I know plenty of people who genuinely don’t want sports to get political either way because it is their escape and I totally respect that.

 

i also know some trash human being you are racist scum who love football yet hate the people that play it.  So I don’t have any problem with that trash getting weeded out.  They can go watch bowling. 

Why are you so miserable ??? 

[Brennan Huff]

9 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Wow, only 2 sentences and you took a solid shot at the left and right wing at the same time! 

Good work.

 

I do what I can

[ProcessAccepted]

2 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

Who wants to watch a political demonstration?  It will have a CNN feel.

 

I will watch the Bills this year, won't be watching the other games.

Good for you. Thanks for sharing

[NickelCity]

5 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

I mean, wasn’t the entire media world up in arms about how going on with Free Agency and the draft was the biggest mistake the NFL could possibly make and it would end in disaster? Did those guys ever admit they were wrong? People like to be sensationalist but rarely admit when they’re full of it.

 

I don't quite remember it like that but I don't watch sports talk shows so it's possible I missed statements to that effect. Those shows suck. Regardless, I was responding to a post that was suggesting other Bills fans, not the media, wouldn't "eat crow." 

 

Anyway, let's just hope this season doesn't go all wonky. I think we're going to be good and I don't want any asterisks lol. 

[Franco_92]

12 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

 

I was hesitant about the season going the distance (fingers crossed it does). Why do you think people won't "admit it" lol? It's not like there's a sinister cabal of Bills fans who were actively working to have the season canceled in the name of a pandemic. Take a chill pill with some beer, football's back!

 

 

I'm not referring to fans like you, I'm talking about holier than thou posters that were smarmy enough it seemed they wanted us to have the misery of no season. It was really, really annoying, and entirely baseless upon an honest inspection of history, data, literature etc.

 

 

Anyway, cheers to football being back. Watching tonight with some friends I haven't seen in ages