Wizard Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Which person or position was the biggest surprise to you that made or was cut from the roster? And, why? For me, it was either Evan Boehm because he can play the pivot and was insurance until Feliciano returned and/or Marlowe because of his veteran experience level and capable backup play. What about for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Del’Shawn Phillips. Need I say more? 58 minutes ago, Wizard said: Which person or position was the biggest surprise to you that made or was cut from the roster? And, why? For me, it was either Evan Boehm because he can play the pivot and was insurance until Feliciano returned and/or Marlowe because of his veteran experience level and capable backup play. What about for you? I figured it would be Boehm or Boettger making the team. I haven’t seen much tape on either. Evens or Odds, 1,2,3 shoot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 The 10 offensive lineman we kept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 I too was surprised by Del'Shawn Phillips making the roster. I guess it is a combination of his versatility and ST ability as well as that our LB quality after Edmunds and Milano leaves much yo be desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Bronxbomber21 said: The 10 offensive lineman we kept It is 9 really. Feliciano will be IR'd today. 1 hour ago, Wizard said: I too was surprised by Del'Shawn Phillips making the roster. I guess it is a combination of his versatility and ST ability as well as that our LB quality after Edmunds and Milano leaves much yo be desired. Yep. Ability to play outside as well as inside. Their other two backups are primarily inside guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Bronxbomber21 said: The 10 offensive lineman we kept It’s only a surprise to me that they did it. I think 10 O-Linemen is smart. Since continuity is important for an offensive line and offensive plays tend to be more complicated than defenses, adding an o-lineman during the season is tough. This year is much different, of course, with the expanded practice squads with adjusted rules, so it isn’t as big of a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Keeper: Del’Shawn Phillips - he came from no where. Released: Dean Marlowe - I thought he was an important part of the Safety room. Suppose to be resigned today, but the Bills are taking a gamble that no one else will claim him. ..... Question: Do they do hand-shank deals in situations like this (him and Roberts)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Foster. I thought it was mandatory that John Murphy announce him as 'inactive' for just about every Sunday game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, CSBill said: Keeper: Del’Shawn Phillips - he came from no where. Released: Dean Marlowe - I thought he was an important part of the Safety room. Suppose to be resigned today, but the Bills are taking a gamble that no one else will claim him. ..... Question: Do they do hand-shank deals in situations like this (him and Roberts)? I may be wrong but I don’t think Marlowe goes thru waivers. He would have to choose to sign somewhere else on his own. Same with Roberts. Again not 100% positive on this but I’m pretty sure there’s a handshake deal. Edited September 6, 2020 by Not at the table Karlos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: I may be wrong but I don’t think Marlowe goes thru waivers. He would have to choose to sign somewhere else on his own. Same with Roberts. Again not 100% positive on this but I’m pretty sure there’s a handshake deal. I dont think either Marlowe or Roberts are subject to waivers as vets with 4 or more seasons accrued. They have deals in place and will both re-sign today. They Want to be here....(that's so nice to say!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Has to be Fromm. Never heard anything positive about him during training camp. All I heard was that he struggled. A good day for him seem to be when he didn't get mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Biggest surprise to me was Murphy. Really thought they’d cut ties. 2nd biggest is Fromm — guy seemed to show nothing at camp by all reports. Roberts was an initial surprise but then I realized it is only temporary and he’ll be back tonight. Same for Marlowe. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, eball said: Biggest surprise to me was Murphy. Really thought they’d cut ties. 2nd biggest is Fromm — guy seemed to show nothing at camp by all reports. Roberts was an initial surprise but then I realized it is only temporary and he’ll be back tonight. Same for Marlowe. Honestly I'm dumbfounded about the hate Murphy gets... We saw Chris Kelsay stick for years with a fraction of the production and 100x the missed plays... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Just now, Sherlock Holmes said: Honestly I'm dumbfounded about the hate Murphy gets... We saw Chris Kelsay stick for years with a fraction of the production and 100x the missed plays... It’s not “hate” — it’s looking at production in light of the cap hit, and what savings they could roll over into 2021 by releasing him. I understand why he was kept — he’s a “reliable” veteran and the Bills aren’t taking any chances this year — but I thought they’d go another direction. It’s all good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Marlowe surprised me because there are a few teams that need safety help/depth, so bringing him back, if that's the plan, may not work out. Also I think Fromm may have benefitted from the abbrevated off season and was given the benefit of the doubt that he will continue to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Del'Shawn Phillips. We didn't hear a PEEP about him in camp, and not a single Bills reporter had him making the 53-man roster. For him to beat out last year's fifth round pick, Vosean Joseph, AND Corey Thompson (who has already proven he can play in this league)...he must have really had a great camp. I'm excited to see him in action. Might be another "diamond in the rough" find from Beane the Wizard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Just now, eball said: It’s not “hate” — it’s looking at production in light of the cap hit, and what savings they could roll over into 2021 by releasing him. I understand why he was kept — he’s a “reliable” veteran and the Bills aren’t taking any chances this year — but I thought they’d go another direction. It’s all good. I would imagine he still wasn't 100% from his injuries last year...Here's hoping this year he is and he can show he is a double digit sack artist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 minute ago, twist_to_open said: Marlowe surprised me because there are a few teams that need safety help/depth, so bringing him back, if that's the plan, may not work out. Also I think Fromm may have benefitted from the abbrevated off season and was given the benefit of the doubt that he will continue to develop. My understanding is that Marlowe wants to be here and understood the plan. He doesn’t have to clear waivers. He will be back on the roster this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Hard to say until the roster is actually finalized. Roberts and Marlowe will both be back. I'm guessing Fromm will be released if Webb clears waivers. Phillips is a surprise but I would also bet he doesn't make it through the season on the roster. Other than that it's pretty much what I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Not immediately swooping in on Ryan Switzer for return duties Edited September 6, 2020 by Sherlock Holmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Not immediately swooping in on Ryan Switzer for return duties They intend on re-signing Andre Roberts, that's probably why. Edited September 6, 2020 by blacklabel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 4 hours ago, ProcessAccepted said: Has to be Fromm. Never heard anything positive about him during training camp. All I heard was that he struggled. A good day for him seem to be when he didn't get mentioned. Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Tyler Bass. Gutsy handing over the reigns to a rookie kicker on a talented team that took years to build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 hours ago, blacklabel said: They intend on re-signing Andre Roberts, that's probably why. Meh, I'll take Switzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 19 hours ago, CSBill said: Keeper: Del’Shawn Phillips - he came from no where. Released: Dean Marlowe - I thought he was an important part of the Safety room. Suppose to be resigned today, but the Bills are taking a gamble that no one else will claim him. ..... Question: Do they do hand-shank deals in situations like this (him and Roberts)? Planned resigning after roster moves were made today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 12 hours ago, eball said: My understanding is that Marlowe wants to be here and understood the plan. He doesn’t have to clear waivers. He will be back on the roster this afternoon. What did the Bills gain by cutting and then resigning Roberts and Marlowe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, matter2003 said: What did the Bills gain by cutting and then resigning Roberts and Marlowe? It allowed them to keep Hodgins. If they IRed him he would be out for the season and if they waived him another team could have swiped him. Roberts and Marlowe not being subject to waivers allowed the Bills to use two roster spots for one day. With Feliciano, if he were put on IR before the cut down, he’d be out for the season, but now they can bring him back, I’m pretty sure anyways. It let the Bills play with two bonus spots for 24 hours. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Meh, I'll take Switzer You'll take Kumerow and like it. Edited September 7, 2020 by Rico 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 4 hours ago, matter2003 said: What did the Bills gain by cutting and then resigning Roberts and Marlowe? These moves allowed the Bills to keep an extra OL and Hodgins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I was a little surprised they only kept three safeties as I expected four, but I’m sure one of the CB’s can fill in if necessary. I would have Roberts cut, but he was already brought back, and lastly, I was sure they would cut Murphy for the cap savings. I guess they are all in on winning and holding onto him for one last year. Next year I’m assuming we move on from a minimum of Hughes, Kroft, and Murphy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 7 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: It allowed them to keep Hodgins. If they IRed him he would be out for the season and if they waived him another team could have swiped him. Roberts and Marlowe not being subject to waivers allowed the Bills to use two roster spots for one day. With Feliciano, if he were put on IR before the cut down, he’d be out for the season, but now they can bring him back, I’m pretty sure anyways. It let the Bills play with two bonus spots for 24 hours. Ahh...gotcha...I have no idea why the rules are set up like that so teams have to do this type of silliness...I think it's obvious every team in the league probably circumvents the rule with moves similar to what the Bills have done so why don't they just get rid of the rule?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziltoid Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) Does Andre Robert's cap hit change now? Edited September 7, 2020 by BeerLeagueHockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 51 minutes ago, BeerLeagueHockey said: Does Andre Robert's cap hit change now? I think a part of his contract becomes dead cap this year but I think its non consequential. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Kind of surprised no one mentioned Gilliam in particular since they are now calling him a TE, not a FB?? Hard to choose though between Gilliam, Phillips, and maybe Fromm. Actually I expected Fromm to be cut on Sunday after they got Webb onto the PS, but that didn't happen either. As to players who didn't get cut probably Murphy stands out there. But still could be cut before Saturday after that I believe his salary becomes guaranteed? Without a true FB on the roster what do they really lose if instead they were to line up Singletary and Moss together in the backfield. Couldn't Moss easily fill that role with his build and supposedly he's a decent blocker? I do wonder too if not having a true FB, will that open up another active game day spot for Yeldon? Maybe will come down to Yeldon or Gilliam being active and would think the edge would go to Yeldon at least for the first few weeks of the season as Gilliam is still in the deep learning mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 9 hours ago, Rico said: You'll take Kumerow and like it. Yes, yes I will... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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