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1 minute ago, T&C said:

You left out the "then" part... then reentered the vehicle. Who knows at that point in time what he could have had in there. He took himself out when he just didn't want to answer some questions and talk with the officials on hand. 

Reentering a vehicle isn’t usually punishable by death. 
 

 

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1 minute ago, LB3 said:

Again. Your emotions are making you illogical. Statistically, if he doesn't resist, he doesn't get shot. Pretty simple.

And statistically, if he is white and resists, his chance of being shot drop even further.

 

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5 minutes ago, LB3 said:

The man that executed Cannon Hinnant was arrested. I can't say whether he was given Burger King (or any other fast food). Is that as relevant as Dylan Roof? 

So a killer was arrested? That’s good news. What about the cops that killed Breonna Taylor? We can keep going down this rabbit hole but if you think that was acceptable; I think you’re a bad person.

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Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

Not unrelated in the conversation of you go back through the thread. One guy killed 9 people, sent the cops on a 16 hour manhunt, got Burger King and a trial. One guy violated his parole, went to his car and was shot 7 times in the back. Those crimes and arrests were not handled the same. 

He didn't even violate parole he hasn't been convicted and I've yet to see anything about a restraining order anywhere. I just don't get why we're all in such a hurry to cede not cooperating with the police = getting shot by them. That seems insane to me.

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3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Now are they going to be a part of the conversation, or will they just sit back and let the common folk do all of the talking?

That’s a fair question but if you follow these guys they lead. I fully expect them to continue on the front lines of this. 

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9 minutes ago, LB3 said:

Killed rioters trying to assault him. The guy he shot in the head asked to be shot, ironically enough. He also later chased and threw an object (reports say molotov cocktail) at Rittenhouse. Will be an interesting self defense case.


You’re actually defending him?! ? What’s a 17 year old from Illinois doing on the street in Wisconsin with an assault rifle? Just looking for an excuse to shoot unarmed protesters. Two dead and a third will lose an arm.

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6 minutes ago, PastaJoe said:


You’re actually defending him?! ? What’s a 17 year old from Illinois doing on the street in Wisconsin with an assault rifle? Just looking for an excuse to shoot unarmed protesters. Two dead and a third will lose an arm.

Could be avoided by not burning down businesses. ?‍♂️ Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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So I'm usually on the side of the protestors but in this case the guy was reaching into his vehicle after being told to stop and he was resisting arrest. The police are trained to shoot in that situation because they don't know what he's reaching for. There needs to be some kind of wholesale police reform but this is not the case to use as an example IMO. It's not like the police in this case panicked in a split second, they followed him peacefully right up until he reached for something out of their view.

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1 minute ago, LB3 said:

Could be avoided by not burning down businesses. ?‍♂️ Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Guess that goes for lil’ Kyle here too huh? Since he’ll get life in the pen for playing mercenaries with daddy’s AR. 

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13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

So a killer was arrested? That’s good news. What about the cops that killed Breonna Taylor? We can keep going down this rabbit hole but if you think that was acceptable; I think you’re a bad person.

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Seven times may have been excessive. I don't get too upset when scumbags get treated poorly.

 

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2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

Guess that goes for lil’ Kyle here too huh? Since he’ll get life in the pen for playing mercenaries with daddy’s AR. 

He's already being hailed as a patriot and hero by the most extreme right wingers. Perhaps he will be a speaker at the 2024 RNC.

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30 minutes ago, T&C said:

Who gives a ***** if its a black guy or a white guy or a green guy... you resist arrest, then go open the door of your vehicle... what would anyone expect. 

 


define expect? 
 

im not shocked he was shot. 
 

I think we shoot too many people and are cool with it if the guy does just about anything wrong. 
 

I don’t think it’s ok to resist arrest. Rarely do I think it should be immediate death.

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2 minutes ago, Buftex said:

He's already being hailed as a patriot and hero by the most extreme right wingers. Perhaps he will be a speaker at the 2024 RNC.

One can never tell these days. Maybe he’ll get a special dispensation to leave whatever supermax he’s rotting in to endorse kimberly guilfoyle or some ****.

1 minute ago, LB3 said:

He might. That was his choice.


oh that’s all you have to say? Guy kills two people and maims a third and well, “that’s his choice” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  But the people he killed were “playing stupid games.” People beside you and you clan are familiar with your racist, dogwhistle phases like PSGWSP by the way. Not fooling anyone here.

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18 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

He didn't even violate parole he hasn't been convicted and I've yet to see anything about a restraining order anywhere. I just don't get why we're all in such a hurry to cede not cooperating with the police = getting shot by them. That seems insane to me.


In the Atlanta drunk driver incident I asked what harm it would’ve been not as aggressively fighting/chasing him. You know, you have his ID, and car... probably not too bad to issue a warrant and pick him up later if he gets away. 
 

people responded that he’d potentially steal cars and kill people driving drunk, or hole up in nearby establishments/homes with hostages. I suspect he’d duck down a nearby ally and call a friend for a ride and then get arrested at home sometime pretty close after instead of fighting over a taser and shooting him.

 

that we are so fast to fall in comply or die as a standard does worry me. And I do get it’s a hard job done by imperfect people. And force is often needed. But we sure are quick to justify it.

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Just a couple thoughts:

 

1) If the cops tell you to do something, DO IT. 

 

2) If a cop thinks you can shoot anyone in the back (SEVEN TIMES!) and it’s going to end well, you should think again. This had to be headed off before it got to that point.

 

Mistakes all around here.  What a horrible mess. 

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1 hour ago, Bferra13 said:

Its cool. Ratings are down 20% from last season in the NBA with basically no competition and people with nothing to do as it is. I'll continue not to watch. 


they were playing a playoff game at 4pm eastern on a Wednesday during an interrupted season. You don’t see any other possible causes for a dip?

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14 minutes ago, NoSaint said:


define expect? 
 

im not shocked he was shot. 
 

I think we shoot too many people and are cool with it if the guy does just about anything wrong. 
 

I don’t think it’s ok to resist arrest. Rarely do I think it should be immediate death.

Expect the unknown... a 9mm out of the door panel... could be anything. By the way, hope you stay safe, that mofo is upon you and you are on the ***** side of it... could possibly be a 5 when it hits land.

 

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2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

 

This is true, but personally I've always turned to sports to tune out from real-life and to provide a distraction. Since they've become one in the same I've found myself watching less and less. Watching less TV overall really. Maybe that's a good thing.

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2 hours ago, T&C said:

Expect the unknown... a 9mm out of the door panel... could be anything. By the way, hope you stay safe, that mofo is upon you and you are on the ***** side of it... could possibly be a 5 when it hits land.

 


but when you can shoot for any unknown you can shoot at nearly any time no matter what. That’s precisely the part that worries me. Immediate threat of death/serious harm vs when anything could happen is a thin but important distinction. Sometimes clearer than others and I do try to respect that but also try to remember which side is trained/tasked with great duty and which side is often drunk/high/mentally ill/scared/or just having an awful day.

 

 

and thanks for the well wishes! I’m in Nola so should be breezy and some spurts of rain. Will be absolutely devastating where it hits though. Really escalated in a hell of a way. 

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10 minutes ago, T&C said:

Expect the unknown... a 9mm out of the door panel... could be anything. By the way, hope you stay safe, that mofo is upon you and you are on the ***** side of it... could possibly be a 5 when it hits land.

 

@NoSaint I second the stay safe part. I don’t know where exactly you are but it’s going to be pretty terrible down through LaFourche. I’m right by City Park so it’s mostly rain and hopefully no storm surge. Think we are okay. Prayers out to all of you in the eye of the storm.

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1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

The NBA leads again. They’ve taken the hard road to demand change. They’ve used their enormous platform to fix OBVIOUS problems in this country. If you think that sitting silently while an unarmed man is shot in the back 7 times is the best option you and I aren’t going to agree on much. This is a peaceful stand against injustice by some of the most powerful people in this country. That’s how change happens.

You think they should allow a guy who had warrants out for sexual assault and domestic abuse walk away simply because he is unarmed? 

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4 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

You think they should allow a guy who had warrants out for sexual assault and domestic abuse walk away simply because he is unarmed? 

I’ve kind of said my piece but we’ve seen people that have killed many walk away peacefully. I think that he should have been detained, arrested and tried. That’s the way it should have worked. 7 shots to the back followed by 2 more people getting murdered while protesting isn’t right. The punishment didn’t meet the crime. 

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Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

I’ve kind of said my piece but we’ve seen people that have killed many walk away peacefully. I think that he should have been detained, arrested and tried. That’s the way it should have worked. 7 shots to the back followed by 2 more people getting murdered while protesting isn’t right. The punishment didn’t meet the crime. 

He was not going to be detained without inflicting major damage on the cops- he made that clear when they stun gunned him and walked away- unless you feel that cops job require them to accept getting hurt. Breonna Taylor is unacceptable, George Floyd is unacceptable, but this is not anywhere near those. 

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Just now, Buffalo Timmy said:

He was not going to be detained without inflicting major damage on the cops- he made that clear when they stun gunned him and walked away- unless you feel that cops job require them to accept getting hurt. Breonna Taylor is unacceptable, George Floyd is unacceptable, but this is not anywhere near those. 

I posted videos earlier of guys chasing cops with nunchucks and/or a knife. Cops shouldn’t be shooting anyone unless they are in an active shootout. That’s kind of how we’ve gotten here. Non-lethal force must be used. There’s a reason for the outrage across the country on this and it isn’t because it was good, but unfortunate, police work. It was a disaster.

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41 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

oh that’s all you have to say? Guy kills two people and maims a third and well, “that’s his choice” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  But the people he killed were “playing stupid games.” People beside you and you clan are familiar with your racist, dogwhistle phases like PSGWSP by the way. Not fooling anyone here.

?Racist dogwhistles. You're a hoot. Me saying the kid gets what he gets is racist?

That's too funny. I implied the kid should get whatever punishment his actions brought on him because he made his choice and you have a problem with that? I guess we as people don't deserve consequences for our actions. ?

 

Your emotions don't make you correct, they make you emotional.

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Just now, LB3 said:

?Racist dogwhistles. You're a hoot. Me saying the kid gets what he gets is racist?

That's too funny. I implied the kid should get whatever punishment his actions brought on him because he made his choice and you have a problem with that? I guess we as people don't deserve consequences for our actions. ?

 

Your emotions don't make you correct, they make you emotional.


We can’t all be as enlightened as you, luckily. 

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13 minutes ago, LB3 said:

?Racist dogwhistles. You're a hoot. Me saying the kid gets what he gets is racist?

That's too funny. I implied the kid should get whatever punishment his actions brought on him because he made his choice and you have a problem with that? I guess we as people don't deserve consequences for our actions. ?

 

Your emotions don't make you correct, they make you emotional.


you also said protesters (or sorry, “rioters”) playing stupid games get stupid prizes. Selective memory is reserved for you lot. Since you seem so very hesitant to admit what lil’ Kyle did was premeditated murder, I wonder why he had latex gloves on. Maybe you can tell us since you seem of a like mind. Covid concerns? Nah probably not because 1) no mask and 2) covid’s a hoax anyways right guy? Hmmm...I wonder why he drove 30 mins from his house with an AR and latex gloves...

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3 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:


you also said protesters (or sorry, “rioters”) playing stupid games get stupid prizes. Selective memory is reserved for you lot. Since you seem so very hesitant to admit what lil’ Kyle did was premeditated murder, I wonder why he had latex gloves on. Maybe you can tell us since you seem of a like mind. Covid concerns? Nah probably not because 1) no mask and 2) covid’s a hoax anyways right guy? Hmmm...I wonder why he drove 30 mins from his house with an AR and latex gloves...

1. He had a mask. There are videos.

 

2. He drove to stop rioters from burning down innocent businesses.

 

Gloves were to prevent getting Covid from rioters. Obviously.

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