BillsFan4 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) Praying for everyone there! ? Edited August 4, 2020 by BillsFan4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Very little news out there on this as of this moment. One said it was a fireworks warehouse and 12 died. If only 12 that's a huge break considering what it looks like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 someone's comment on the live feed was, "i hope there were no cats around". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Wow, that doesn't look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, teef said: someone's comment on the live feed was, "i hope there were no cats around". Yeah I saw that too. WTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Fireworks....... Goodness. Thoughts to those affected, that wasn't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, teef said: someone's comment on the live feed was, "i hope there were no cats around". The cat cult is almost as bad as the dog cult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) From Reuters - JUST IN: Lebanon's internal security chief tells reporters the blast was in a port area with highly explosive material, not explosives Hmm - I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express, but wouldn't highly explosive material be considered "explosives"? Edited August 4, 2020 by BuffaloBud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, BuffaloBud said: From Reuters - JUST IN: Lebanon's internal security chief tells reporters the blast was in a port area with highly explosive material, not explosives Hmm - I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express, but wouldn't highly explosive material be considered "explosives"? Might be to differentiate between weapons and fireworks/industrial chemicals etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Fireworks explosion, huh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 3 hours ago, BuffaloBud said: From Reuters - JUST IN: Lebanon's internal security chief tells reporters the blast was in a port area with highly explosive material, not explosives Hmm - I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express, but wouldn't highly explosive material be considered "explosives"? I think that's to differentiate between industrial chemicals that can explode, but you're hoping they don't get around to it before you use them...vs things whose use in the world is to explode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Reports are now large inventory of ammonium nitrate. Used in fertilizer. Was the same material used in OK City bombing? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 killed at least 60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 4 hours ago, GoBills808 said: 36 minutes ago, BuffaloBud said: Reports are now large inventory of ammonium nitrate. Used in fertilizer. Effin' farmers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 It may be they were making explosives and it went 2 hours ago, BuffaloBud said: Reports are now large inventory of ammonium nitrate. Used in fertilizer. Was the same material used in OK City bombing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Warehouse stored the explosives for year’s Accident or Sabotage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Warehouse stored the explosives for year’s Accident or Sabotage. I pray it was a stupid, sloppy accident, and I pray for all those affected. My wife’s family is trying to market the family residence (mom passed a while back, tricky international rules) and some adjacent commercial property outside the city. We follow the area obviously and she grew up spending her summers there. That area has suffered enough. A stupid accident would be awful enough, intentionally evil would be hard to handle. . Edited August 4, 2020 by Augie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) Amen to that. Hoping it was an accident it was like a mini mushroom cloud Edited August 4, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 38 minutes ago, Augie said: That area has suffered enough. A stupid accident would be awful enough, intentionally evil would be hard to handle. Yeah this is my takeaway too. There are entire generations over there that don’t know what peace and stability is, and that’s sad for any populous no matter the geography. I’m Lebanese on my mom’s side, hope your wife knows all the family recipes! My gram pushing 90 still makes killer grape leaves, taboulleh & kibbeh for holidays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Yeah this is my takeaway too. There are entire generations over there that don’t know what peace and stability is, and that’s sad for any populous no matter the geography. I’m Lebanese on my mom’s side, hope your wife knows all the family recipes! My gram pushing 90 still makes killer grape leaves, taboulleh & kibbeh for holidays. She is 100%, but her dad was (barely) born in the states. I’ll never forget my first Thanksgiving with her family while we were engaged. Out comes one dish after another, after another, after another......and I keep asking “what’s that?” It’s THANKSGIVING! Finally a turkey that had been cooked about a day too long showed up at the end. An eye opener for sure! She’s got all the recipes, but it’s very labor intensive. She’ll do it on special occasions and invite our close friends. Atlanta has a great Lebanese shop/restaurant (Leon International) between us and her brother in Greenville, SC. She orders ahead and picks up a feast on her way to visit. They are ALL about the food! She has a bunch of cousins here who meet every weekend at a Lebanese joint. Friends and family, maybe 20 people on average when I’ve been there. Pretty cool, takes a good part of the day as it just keeps coming. . Edited August 5, 2020 by Augie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Augie said: She is 100%, but her dad was (barely) born in the states. I’ll never forget my first Thanksgiving with her family while we were engaged. Out comes one dish after another, after another, after another......and I keep asking “what’s that?” It’s THANKSGIVING! Finally a turkey that had been cooked about a day too long showed up at the end. An eye opener for sure! She’s got all the recipes, but it’s very labor intensive. She’ll do it on special occasions and invite our close friends. Atlanta has a great Lebanese shop/restaurant (Leon International) between us and her brother in Greenville, SC. She orders ahead and picks up a feast on her way to visit. They are ALL about the food! Turkey shawarma > sex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: Turkey shawarma > sex Maybe you’re not doing it right??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Augie said: Maybe you’re not doing it right??? Nope, I do it perfectly. Chew, chew chew... NEXT! Seriously, whenever I'm in a big city I hunt down the best shawarma joint and frequent it every day. By the time I leave, I look like a python that swallowed a calf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 @Augie I’ve never been to a holiday/reunion/event w my Lebanese side that WASN’T all about the food ? And yes, most of the traditional dishes are very labor intensive, that’s why they only show up at holidays these days. The older generation is slowly leaving us, but my wife and I try to learn all we can, while we can! There’s a Lebanese restaurant in Niagara Falls, “755 Lounge”. From Lebanon thru Toronto to NF. Amazing authentic cuisine and the family that owns/operates are very nice people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 There was some video where you can see in the fire some flashes going off that look like fireworks. I don't think that's all they were doing in that building, that explosion didn't look right...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Angle #1 https://streamable.com/xmmoa7 Angle #2 https://streamable.com/nscx9m Angle #3 https://streamable.com/zbjj5f Angle #4 https://streamable.com/saoafz Angle #5 https://streamable.com/4ga1vb Angle #6 https://streamable.com/lmivb2 Angle #7 https://streamable.com/mcy82f Angle #8 https://streamable.com/zg9oal Angle #9 https://streamable.com/zykkj6 Angle #10 https://streamable.com/22e152 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I doubt that the ammonium nitrate sat in a warehouse for years. It's a port. Lots of activity. Just purring out an idea. There have been lots of explosions in Iran recently, supposedly done by Iranians against the regime. Iran is backing Hiezballah. Could rigs be the same group doing this to stop Hezballah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Seemed like a very distinctive explosion between the color and type of plume. Have to imagine someone knows exactly what that substance was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/08/04/beirut-explosion-ammonium-nitrate/ 5 hours ago, BuffaloBud said: Reports are now large inventory of ammonium nitrate. Used in fertilizer. Was the same material used in OK City bombing? (If true) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fires Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Same stuff exploded in Texas City Texas back in the 40's. Killed 8500 people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 hours ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Yeah this is my takeaway too. There are entire generations over there that don’t know what peace and stability is, and that’s sad for any populous no matter the geography. I’m Lebanese on my mom’s side, hope your wife knows all the family recipes! My gram pushing 90 still makes killer grape leaves, taboulleh & kibbeh for holidays. Father in law’s family is all Lebanese. His sister makes some mean kibbeh. My mother in law was Irish but learned to make grape leaves from FIL’s mom and they were awesome. We grow grapes in the garden Just for the leaves! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/08/04/beirut-explosion-ammonium-nitrate/ (If true) The explosion is ammonium nitrate or very close chemical relative for reals. Can't speak to quantity. But the color of the explosion is characteristic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 11 hours ago, MarkyMannn said: Yeah I saw that too. WTH The word cat can also refer to people. It's colloquial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 11 hours ago, BuffaloBud said: From Reuters - JUST IN: Lebanon's internal security chief tells reporters the blast was in a port area with highly explosive material, not explosives Hmm - I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express, but wouldn't highly explosive material be considered "explosives"? Not necessarily. Lots of explosive things have other uses, such as fertilizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: There was some video where you can see in the fire some flashes going off that look like fireworks. I don't think that's all they were doing in that building, that explosion didn't look right...... Yeah, there were some explosions but you didn't see fireworks I don't think. This is video of a fireworks disaster in the Netherlands and you very clearly see fireworks in the sky before the big explosion. I don't know what something like mortar rounds would look like if they cooked off in a fire. That big explosion is ammonium nitrate though. Lots of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Looking at pictures of the aftermath on NPR, and noted destruction on a concrete silo building. I am not sure of the construction quality used on that one, but here in North America those are notoriously difficult to demolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 12 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Angle #1 https://streamable.com/xmmoa7 Angle #2 https://streamable.com/nscx9m Angle #3 https://streamable.com/zbjj5f Angle #4 https://streamable.com/saoafz Angle #5 https://streamable.com/4ga1vb Angle #6 https://streamable.com/lmivb2 Angle #7 https://streamable.com/mcy82f Angle #8 https://streamable.com/zg9oal Angle #9 https://streamable.com/zykkj6 Angle #10 https://streamable.com/22e152 Jesus H Christ....... RIP to everyone who perished. That looked horrifying. 2 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: I am not sure of the construction quality used on that one, but here in North America those are notoriously difficult to demolish. Canalside says "Thank you." Those aren't going anywhere, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 13 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Angle #1 https://streamable.com/xmmoa7 Angle #2 https://streamable.com/nscx9m Angle #3 https://streamable.com/zbjj5f Angle #4 https://streamable.com/saoafz Angle #5 https://streamable.com/4ga1vb Angle #6 https://streamable.com/lmivb2 Angle #7 https://streamable.com/mcy82f Angle #8 https://streamable.com/zg9oal Angle #9 https://streamable.com/zykkj6 Angle #10 https://streamable.com/22e152 The Shockwave hitting the car driving down the road in #7 is crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 12 hours ago, Wacka said: I doubt that the ammonium nitrate sat in a warehouse for years. It's a port. Lots of activity. Just purring out an idea. There have been lots of explosions in Iran recently, supposedly done by Iranians against the regime. Iran is backing Hiezballah. Could rigs be the same group doing this to stop Hezballah? I keep reading that Lebanese officials said the ammonium nitrate had been stored in a warehouse at Beirut port, which sits on the northern tip of the capital, in what Prime Minister Hassan Diab described as a “dangerous” warehouse for six years. The massive blast witnessed on Tuesday was likely caused by the detonation of more than 2,700 tons of ammonium nitrate that had been stored in a warehouse at the dock in Beirut’s port ever since it was confiscated from a cargo ship in 2014, Lebanese Interior Minister Mohammed Fahmi told local media. https://www.foxnews.com/world/beirut-explosion-lebanon-blast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: I keep reading that Lebanese officials said the ammonium nitrate had been stored in a warehouse at Beirut port, which sits on the northern tip of the capital, in what Prime Minister Hassan Diab described as a “dangerous” warehouse for six years. The massive blast witnessed on Tuesday was likely caused by the detonation of more than 2,700 tons of ammonium nitrate that had been stored in a warehouse at the dock in Beirut’s port ever since it was confiscated from a cargo ship in 2014, Lebanese Interior Minister Mohammed Fahmi told local media. https://www.foxnews.com/world/beirut-explosion-lebanon-blast Good lord....its been there for 6 years. Somebody has some explaining to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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