Robert James Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Does this mean he is not a “process” guy? ? It all depends on what his off-season goals are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) Just now, Success said: First 4 games are probably the easiest part of our schedule. Just thinking practically. Though, it could be more than 4 games. I would be very surprised if he’s suspended in 2020. 2021 would make sense. Edited May 17, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 7 hours ago, Wayne Cubed said: What a world we live in that we can actually see the arrest hours after it’s happened... I sure hope I never get pulled over and get asked to do the sobriety test. I would fail that sober. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Limeaid said: You are right. There are lots of Uber and Lyft drivers who pull trailers with a dune buggy. Why are you driving drunk Ed? Sorry officer, Uber wanted me to get in their car, they didn’t want to drive my truck. Hmm, better... Sorry officer, the trailer wasn’t going to pull itself. Edited May 17, 2020 by CommonCents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I would be very surprised if he’s suspended in 2020 What makes you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: Wow. Do you text while speeding with an open beer too? All the kids are doing it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, PIZ said: I sure hope I never get pulled over and get asked to do the sobriety test. I would fail that sober. No you wouldn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, PIZ said: I sure hope I never get pulled over and get asked to do the sobriety test. I would fail that sober. I would fail at just pulling over. I would cause some sort of accident just pulling over. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Robert James said: It all depends on what his off-season goals are. He’s the 4th nfl player arrested this week. I feel like these guys are in their hometowns much more than they normally would be this year and it’s no coincidence some are finding trouble away from the structure of the team environment. It’s not an excuse obviously. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, njbuff said: I would fail at just pulling over. I would cause some sort of accident just pulling over. ? I wouldn't hold it against you. You're already exhausted after a long night of dusting and vacuuming and washing dishes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: PER ESPN: Police were alerted to Oliver's driving by a 911 call from another motorist, who reported a Ford Super Duty pickup hauling a trailer with a dune buggy on it through a 45 mph construction zone on State Highway 242, according to MontgomeryCountyPoliceReporter.com. The 911 caller noted that Oliver was "failing to maintain a lane and driving dangerously," according to the report. .......... Not smart. If your having issues driving straight after drinking, pull over and get out and call a cab. or a friend. Or shoot sleep in a bush. There is a strong possibility that since this was reported in a construction zone that he wasn’t uncontrollably swerving, rather trying to stay away from the medians/no shoulder. I used to drive about 45k trailer miles per year. Although a much bigger load. I’ve done a couple cross country trips with it as well. 40 foot open trailer, 60 foot load (over hang), 13 feet high, with a pick up. I used to swap lanes all the time at night if there wasn’t much traffic and their was no shoulder. It’s not the greatest to navigate. You would also be surprised at what people will call you in on when you’re towing. I have had two calls to my employer, which they would had to google because our number wasn’t on the truck. Both just for just being in the right lane. I would be going 80 plus not holding up traffic at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, njbuff said: What makes you say that? Usually it’s the following season if you look at guys arrested in the offseason. It’s always a dragged out process with the nfl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Usually it’s the following season if you look at guys arrested in the offseason. It’s always a dragged out process with the nfl. True. 1 minute ago, Ralonzo said: I wouldn't hold it against you. You're already exhausted after a long night of dusting and vacuuming and washing dishes! Cops might shoot me from smelling like Fabreeze. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, BillsMafia828 said: The area he was pulled over has heavy restrictions due to construction. Honestly, he probably could got a hometown pass if he didn't have the open container. Hometown passes are going to be a thing of the past thanks to bodycams..... Oliver made a bad decision to drive. We will all know if this is a one time horrible decision, or if he falls off the rails. His personality doesn't come across as hood, but definately country with the horses, atv riding, ect. I think he'll straighten up and tow the line from this point forward. Edited May 17, 2020 by loyal2dagame 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: I'm no expert, so this isn't an argument, it's a question. If you have to be found guilty of the DWI or DUI, how come PJ Williams, arrested for driving drunk and careless driving in New Orleans on 1/23/2019, pleaded down to "reckless driving" and was suspended for three games. Same question for Kareem Jackson arrested on 9/19/2019 for DUI in Denver pleaded down to one count of driving while alcohol impaired and was suspended for two games? Or Willie Snead, arrested for DUI on 6/11/2017 given a diversion program and counseling and suspended three games https://www.tsn.ca/broncos-safety-kareem-jackson-suspended-final-2-games-by-nfl-1.1414738 https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/ https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/article_0929b8ac-17a2-5eef-bdc2-28c32cf39cb4.html by no means I am an expert on the NFL suspension policy (I don’t think anyone is). However if I go by the letter of their policy they can’t suspend him for DWI. It is probably that Commissioners Protect the Shield stuff that got overhauled by the new CBA. So to say what the Commish will try in line with the new CBA I don’t know. But by the DWI Policy they have he can’t get suspended off that. 2.2 Violations of Law Involving Alcohol The Commissioner will review and may impose a fine, suspension, or other appropriate discipline if a Player is convicted of or admits to a violation of the law (including within the context of a diversionary program, deferred adjudication, disposition of supervision, or similar arrangement including but not limited to nolo contendere) relating to the use of alcohol. Absent aggravating circumstances, discipline for a first offense will be a suspension without pay for two (2) regular or postseason games. If the Commissioner finds that there were aggravating circumstances, including but not limited to felonious conduct, extreme intoxication (BAC of .15% or more), property damage or serious injury or death to the Player or a third party, and/or if the Player has had prior drug or alcohol- related misconduct, increased discipline may be imposed. Discipline for a second or subsequent offense, absent aggravating circumstances, will be a suspension without pay for eight (8) regular and/or postseason games as determined by the Commissioner. Edited May 17, 2020 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, njbuff said: True. Especially this year because the courts are backlogged due to Covid. suspensions are typically handed out after the courts rule on legal matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Does anyone know if they found anything else in the car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 5 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: Well, there were times when I was 23 where I prolly had a beer in one hand, a Marlboro Red in another hand, and had to drive and shift too! But that was way before phones. ! Only difference for me was I was rolling one and you probably didn’t have a cup holder either.... good thing we didn’t have cell phones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s the 4th nfl player arrested this week. I feel like these guys are in their hometowns much more than they normally would be this year and it’s no coincidence some are finding trouble away from the structure of the team environment. It’s not an excuse obviously. I shudder to think what I might have done if someone had handed me 10+ million dollars when I was 22. 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Especially this year because the courts are backlogged due to Covid. suspensions are typically handed out after the courts rule on legal matters. If this drags out and the charges get knocked down, with the backlog he might not face much suspension time then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, njbuff said: Cops might shoot me from smelling like Fabreeze. ? That's because you can't spell "freebase" without Fabreese ? I'm here all week. Try the veal. Seriously, I'm just having fun with this because it's such a nothingburger. I don't know what folks are getting spun up about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, Ralonzo said: That's because you can't spell "freebase" without Fabreese ? I'm here all week. Try the veal. Seriously, I'm just having fun with this because it's such a nothingburger. I don't know what folks are getting spun up about. Trust the process. Well, just for the record, if Oliver killed someone, then the nothing burger becomes a jailburger, never mind his NFL career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, njbuff said: Does anyone know if they found anything else in the car? Just the weapon. They wanted a drug charge no drugs went with the Add On Gun charge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Robert James said: I shudder to think what I might have done if someone had handed me 10+ million dollars when I was 22. Same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, artmalibu said: Texas does require a permit for handguns. It is very easy to get, considering he has lived there his whole life no reason why he should not have it. I believe the only reason for him to catch a gun charge would be because of not having the permit. If this is the case he is a real idiot!!! And you'd be wrong. The gun charge is because he was charged with crime higher than a traffic ticket (DWI) while in possession of a gun. He legally owns the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Robert James said: I shudder to think what I might have done if someone had handed me 10+ million dollars when I was 22. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, njbuff said: Trust the process. Well, just for the record, if Oliver killed someone, then the nothing burger becomes a jailburger, never mind his NFL career. I mean, we could get into a discussion about risk assessment level caused by simply leaving your house. The only way to be sure is to never do it. Or so someone on TV keeps telling me, but that's probably a discussion for another board. Coulda/woulda/shoulda/etc applies to everything; better to focus on what actually did happen which at first blush, ain't much, in my opinion anyway... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Ugh... I thought he only rode horses!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Ugh... I thought he only rode horses!! side note still could get a DWI on a horse based on an obscure law on the books as wel. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I think the thing I'm most amazed at is how many people on this board apparently have never made any mistakes in their life especially when they were in their early 20s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: He definitely has a tough uphill battle- Beane and McD have to be pissed as well. I'd be surprised if he gets more than 3 games. I'm still sticking with 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: yep, and 3 white cops pulling over a young black man have never erred in judgement before. NOt saying he was or was not impaired, saying lets wait for the test results This kind of rhetoric is useless and has no positive impact on anything. Should we consider the criminal statistics on young black men as well? Perhaps you are just trolling or maybe you really do think this way? The skin color of the cops or the accused shouldn't be used in a suggestive manner as both ways show ignorance. I think Oliver is a good kid and this will be a learning experience for him. I also don't think McDermott will write him off. Some posters are obsessed with using worn out phrases like "choir boys" and "process type player". I really don't think McDermott or anyone in the organization believes that players should me mistake free. I would guess they are looking for effort, focus, growth, and responsibility. All of which can be shown despite mistakes. I still love Ed Oliver and glad he his on our side. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: I'd be surprised if he gets more than 3 games. I'm still sticking with 2. More i loooked. Could get 2 off the DWI Policy if the eventual plea is Wet Reckless (the wet part shows alcohol). If they get it to Norma reckless driving can’t use the DWI Policy and then has to use the Protect the Shield Policy of the Commish. And I don’t know what powers he has under new CBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 What else to do during a global pandemic? It's not like this guy didn't have character questions in college. So much for the team "culture." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Wonder how many of these people vilifying Oliver today would start defending themselves if charged with assault while throwing people through tables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmsmystic Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) For Pete's sake relax. 1) He got pulled over for dwi while at age 22. Could have happened to almost anyone, except maybe some judgmental choir boys 2) It's Texas, not crappy New York. Gun laws are easier, and it's common for regular people to have them on them. Also, up to a few years ago open container beers were actually allowed while driving! 3) He didn't hurt anyone, punch a woman, jump out of a hotel room screaming naked etc. Just...relax Edited May 17, 2020 by hmsmystic 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) Somewhere Harrison Phillips got the call, and decided instead of bench reps of 225, today could be more of a Hot Pockets and Yuengling sort of afternoon... @Ridgewaycynic2013, how many compensatory draft picks will this net the Patriots? Edited May 17, 2020 by NoHuddleKelly12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, hmsmystic said: For Pete's sake relax. 1) He pulled got pulled over for dwi while at age 22. Could have happened to almost anyone, except maybe some judgmental choir boys 2) It's Texas, not crappy New York. Gun laws are easier, and it's common for regular people to have them on them. Also, up to a few years ago open container beers were actually allowed while driving! 3) He didn't hurt anyone, punch a woman, jump out of a hotel room screaming naked etc. Just...relax yep. Open Container still allowed. Got taken off the books in 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Any Office Space reference wins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Wonder how many of these people vilifying Oliver today would start defending themselves if charged with assault while throwing people through tables. I wonder how many people here actually throw people through tables. I know I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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