Ed Oliver Arrested DWI

[Mr. K]

Should've had him run the 40 while he was out there. All joking aside he is going to get some hard processing once camp gets in.

[Locomark]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

absolutely. The weapons charge is an Add on. In an open carry state only can be added on to another offense.  This case being the DWI. Once that DWI is pled down to the traffic offense (wet reckless) the weapon charge will be tossed. 
 

end of the day after all the talk as long as the Blood draw only shows alcohol. Oliver will have 

 

reckless driving and a Fine. 

Do you not have to prove you are the owner of that gun at the time are pulled over? That video doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy he doesn’t get DWI.  No one is fudging the results because he doesn’t play for the Texans or Cowboys. He isn’t getting that pled down as you say.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Sig1Hunter said:

Can’t get that warrant for a blood draw without him “failing” the field sobriety. 

Texas it is a matter of the cop saying under the influence other than alcohol. That is the probably cause for the blood draw. He will sit at Montgomery hospital for a couple hours waiting on the warrant 

[MiltonWaddams]

The number of issues with NFL players over the last 3 days is astounding. Seems like they reached their breaking point and decided that it was time to do everything wrong. C’mon Ed! 

[Phil The Thrill]

54 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

2 is the minimum. Depends on whether the gun or the level of intoxication are such to be considered aggravating factors. If so more likely 4. But also much more likely from 2021 than 2020. 

If he has to get suspended, let’s hope it happens in 2121

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, JimBob2232 said:

Honestly it’s refreshing to see a cop video where everyone seems to be behaving appropriately.  Not trying to be political - just something I noticed. 
 

also more to follow on the gun charge. Unlawful weapon - is at because it’s not registered, he was drunk, It was on display, or something else.  Seems it could be many things.  

any way you slice it this is an idiotic thing to do - and he needs to pay the price. But I’m not sure it’s as bad as it appears (it’s still very bad though).  Will change my mind when I hear his bac, any other substances in his system, and the actual gun offense. 

The gun charge is an add on for the DWI. Will get tossed watch 

[Juice_32]

45 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

Stuff like this happens with young guys. Especially when they’re bored and the routine is messed up. It was a dumb move but I think some of y’all are being a little harsh. 
Easy to think you’re untouchable and on top of the world when you’re that young with that much money. We see guys doing dumb stuff all the time, at least he’s not in a Dunbar kinda situation 

It was dumb, but I’ve done worse in my youth. It is interesting how much certain people seem to enjoy things like this. He who is without sin cast the first stone. Hypocrisy abounds. 

[Mr. WEO]

4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Yep Open Carry. I walked around with my AR whenever I wanted (not registered except on Post). 

 

 The weapons charge would stick if he's over the limit BAL.  

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

He will get 2 max only if doesn’t plea. Out of the DWI. That is the suspension for a 1st time DWI. 

Either way it won't interfere with the 2020 season unless the Bills take action, which they might. 

[MAJBobby]

2 minutes ago, Locomark said:

Do you not have to prove you are the owner of that gun at the time are pulled over? That video doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy he doesn’t get DWI.  No one is fudging the results because he doesn’t play for the Texans or Cowboys. He isn’t getting that pled down as you say.

no. Again the weapon charge is JUST because of the DWI. It is an add on. I walked around with a freaking AR never once get approached by cops as open carry. 
 

https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/PE/htm/PE.46.htm

[Bangarang]

4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Really then why do the cops go after the mandatory blood draw?  Because he didn’t fail the FS test 

From what the video does show I can already tell you he at least failed the walk and turn test.

[Conlan58]

3 minutes ago, offyourocker said:

You have not spent much time down south, have you?

So it makes him less of an idiot because it's down south? "But officer, we are down south."

 

Yeah, ok.

[Locomark]

5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Really then why do the cops go after the mandatory blood draw?  Because he didn’t fail the FS test 

Because they saw his name and Bills T-shirt and were smart enough to know it would be challenged by high price lawyers. I’m sure they were told to do it. 

[offyourocker]

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

They found a pistol when they searched the vehicle but I don't know, if it's registered I'd imagine that'd be fine in Texas.

There is no registration in most states outside of freedom lacking states like NY.   There is certainly not in Texas.  It might have been an illegal weapon is all I can think of 

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

 The weapons charge would stick if he's over the limit BAL.  

 

 

maybe. Initially until it gets pled down to Reckless Driving like it will. Then the weapons charge goes away as it can’t be attached to a traffic offense. 

Just now, Locomark said:

Because they saw his name and Bills T-shirt and were smart enough to know it would be challenged by high price lawyers. I’m sure they were told to do it. 

He could have also said DRAW MY BLOOD. 

[KollegeStudnet]

The guy made a mistake. Move forward. 

[Heathcliff]

2 hours ago, Devilmann said:

Houston isn’t in Montgomery county that’s Harris county it’s close to Houston. It’s legal to carry a firearm but only if you have a license for it and just like everywhere else there is no open alcoholic containers

You don’t need a license to carry a firearm in your vehicle in Texas.   And yes it is very common.  Nothing to see here unless the gun was stolen or used in a crime. 

[offyourocker]

Just now, Conlan58 said:

So it makes him less of an idiot because it's down south? "But officer, we are down south."

 

Yeah, ok.

You are grossly misinterpreting what I said but I am glad I could the guy you need to find to be mad at this morning 

[Sig1Hunter]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

Texas it is a matter of the cop saying under the influence other than alcohol. That is the probably cause for the blood draw. He will sit at Montgomery hospital for a couple hours waiting on the warrant 

Right, but you gotta have evidence of that. That would have come in the form of evidence during the FSEs. It’s also possible that he refused the breath test, so that set the warrant for blood examination protocol into motion. We shall see.

 

I’m glad no one was hurt in the incident, and hopefully Ed learns the lesson. Sometimes the lessons learned the hard way are the lessons learned for a lifetime. Sometimes they aren’t..

[Conlan58]

Just now, offyourocker said:

You are grossly misinterpreting what I said but I am glad I could the guy you need to find to be mad at this morning 

No, not really. Anyone that drinks while driving is an idiot. You were trying to downplay what he did because it happened in the south. I'm sure it is common practice, but again - doesn't make the offenders any less of an idiot. 

[MAJBobby]

3 minutes ago, offyourocker said:

There is no registration in most states outside of freedom lacking states like NY.   There is certainly not in Texas.  It might have been an illegal weapon is all I can think of 

The Charge is because of the DWI. Nothing more. It is an Add on 

[TwistofFate]

7 minutes ago, Locomark said:

He was charged with unlawfully carrying a firearm. So you now know more about what constitutes Texas law than the 3 officers on the scene? It’s no different than driving without a license. Even if you left your license at home you don’t get a do over to go prove it later. Say he only had a concealed carry which would mean he would need to have his FOID card on him at the time. That could be a low charge but it’s going to stick.

They always trump up charges to try and get something to stick. 

 

 

 

Unlawful Carry of a Weapon 

An individual is prohibited from possessing a handgun while they are committing an offense (other than an offense punishable by a traffic ticket) – even if they are in a generally permissible place to lawfully carry even without a license.

 

For example, imagine you put your handgun in your car where the handle is still visible, go to work, and after work you head to happy hour. Now imagine you get stopped and charged with DWI. Under Texas law, the officer can charge you with UCW because you were committing an offense other than a Class C traffic offense. So while you may have never intended to commit the offense of UCW, by possessing a handgun while committing an offense other than a traffic ticket, the officer can charge you with UCW. 

 

For whatever reason you seem to be making this out to be much more than it is. 

 

These look to be like trumped-up charges to land something and make it stick, most likely because states have lost tons of Revenue during quarantine.

 

I would not be shocked in the least if his blood test results came back and he was either barely intoxicated or under the intoxication level.  I wouldn't be shocked to see that unlawful carry get tossed out as well.

 

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

31 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

and you know this how?

according to someone who is not named. I don't see anywhere where the cops said he was swerving.

must have missed that one too..where did you read the test results?

 

 

the article quoted up thread said the officer found him to be impaired. 

[MAJBobby]

3 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:

Right, but you gotta have evidence of that. That would have come in the form of evidence during the FSEs. It’s also possible that he refused the breath test, so that set the warrant for blood examination protocol into motion. We shall see.

 

I’m glad no one was hurt in the incident, and hopefully Ed learns the lesson. Sometimes the lessons learned the hard way are the lessons learned for a lifetime. Sometimes they aren’t..

 
everyone trying to beat a DWI DUI charge should always demand a blood test or refuse the Breath  Test. 

[Mr. WEO]

8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Texas it is a matter of the cop saying under the influence other than alcohol. That is the probably cause for the blood draw. He will sit at Montgomery hospital for a couple hours waiting on the warrant 

 

He failed the field test.  Says they drew his blood before taking him to jail.

[Locomark]

8 minutes ago, Juice_32 said:

It was dumb, but I’ve done worse in my youth. It is interesting how much certain people seem to enjoy things like this. He who is without sin cast the first stone. Hypocrisy abounds. 

I don’t think anyone thinks it’s abnormal for a 23 year old kid to go out, ride his ATV , drink a few, and make a bad choice. I think the disgust is that we have a huge opportunity this year. We haven’t won a division in 20 years and we just put an unnecessary roadblock up. We are playing for home field playoff games now. It matters when someone takes themselves out of games doing something stupid. 

Edited May 17, 2020 by Locomark

[plenzmd1]

1 minute ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

the article quoted up thread said the officer found him to be impaired. 

yep, and 3 white cops pulling over a young black man have never erred in judgement before.

 

NOt saying he was or was not impaired, saying lets wait for the test results

 

 

[MAJBobby]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

He failed the field test.  Says they drew his blood before taking him to jail.

Ok cool we will see the results of the blood test. 
 

say June it will go to court and the plea deal down to reckless driving will be started. 

[Sharky7337]

5 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

yep, and 3 white cops pulling over a young black man have never erred in judgement before.

 

NOt saying he was or was not impaired, saying lets wait for the test results

 

 

Ya it has to be racism that made him drink and drive and put the can between his legs. 

[TwistofFate]

Yikes! 

 

Should #Bills DL Ed Oliver be suspended for his reported personal conduct violation, not only would he forfeit $81,725 per week missed, but the remaining $6.8M of salary guarantee on his contract will void.

[Buddy Hix]

Ed ***** up, I hope he is punished appropriately and grows up.

 

What astonishes me every time I read about crimes/shootings in the US is the cavalier way y’all treat firearms. It’s no wonder the US has so many deaths attributed to firearms...

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

5 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

yep, and 3 white cops pulling over a young black man have never erred in judgement before.

 

NOt saying he was or was not impaired, saying lets wait for the test results

 

 

that’s fair enough. My point wasn’t to convict him. Based on the allegations, what it seemed like he did was really dangerous. This was in a construction zone during normal hours while towing something. if it turns out he was drinking while driving in this situation, the risk of harm to others was very high. 

[DaaBills]

1 minute ago, TwistofFate said:

Yikes! 

 

Should #Bills DL Ed Oliver be suspended for his reported personal conduct violation, not only would he forfeit $81,725 per week missed, but the remaining $6.8M of salary guarantee on his contract will void.

Wowowow. Might help out our salary cap in the long term, this could work out!

[Green Lightning]

3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Ok cool we will see the results of the blood test. 
 

say June it will go to court and the plea deal down to reckless driving will be started. 

Maybe, but he will miss games for sure and this is a really bad time to let down your team. Not that any time is good but this is the year we finally hope to put it all together.

[Mr. WEO]

8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Ok cool we will see the results of the blood test. 
 

say June it will go to court and the plea deal down to reckless driving will be started. 

 

If he's over .08 why would the DA plead down a slam dunk double Class A misdemeanor?

[Green Lightning]

6 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said:

Ed ***** up, I hope he is punished appropriately and grows up.

 

What astonishes me every time I read about crimes/shootings in the US is the cavalier way y’all treat firearms. It’s no wonder the US has so many deaths attributed to firearms...

I've carried a firearm for 40 years. Myself and many of the people I know who are licensed to carry are hardly cavalier about it. You play by the rules, practice and keep safe. You would never know we carry because we don't advertise it. So quit painting with such a broad brush. Almost all of the crimes and shootings you read about are committed by criminals with illegal guns. Oh and as a rule we don't drink  and drive with open containers with our guns. Just sayin'.

Edited May 17, 2020 by Green Lightning

[Virgil]

Someone called 911 on him because of how he was driving.  

[MAJBobby]

5 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

Maybe, but he will miss games for sure and this is a really bad time to let down your team. Not that any time is good but this is the year we finally hope to put it all together.

How will he miss games for Reckless Driving. The NFL policy says two for DWI. But has to be found guilty. So if doesn’t have that charge how is he missing games?

[4merper4mer]

Page 14 and no one has advocated cutting Star and Murphy yet?  It solves all other problems, why not this one?

Edited May 17, 2020 by 4merper4mer

[MAJBobby]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

If he's over .08 why would the DA plead down a slam dunk double Class A misdemeanor?

Does it all the time. Big donation. Then add the fines for the charge itself. 
 

like I said I have had 5 soldiers plead down to wet reckless in my years stationed in Texas without any big donation. Just using the diversion program