Captain Hindsight Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 15 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Dont mind trading Beasley to the Packers for a future second - there is only one ball to go around and we have to keep Diggs, Brown, Davis, Duke, McKenzie, Roberts, Hodgins, Knox, Kroft, SIngletary, Moss etc. happy. They have nothing at WR and appear desperate. Bills have one of the most talented rosters in the NFL and plenty of cap spaceĀ and you are trying to break it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 I don't know that we can predict what will happen going forward, but Aaron Rodgers' disapproval of Green Bay's draft strategy was about as inevitable as lightening in a thunderstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Green Bay has truly wasted Rogers career for the most part.Ā Ā Could have won multiple Super Bowls.Ā 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Absolutely.Ā He spoke to him "privately", yet, here we are reading about it.Ā Nothing to see but an agent leak Ā But it wasn't an agent leak.Ā Favre sang like a canary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 hours ago, NewEra said: Saw this coming the second they drafted Love. Ā I donāt blame him one bit. Ā Ā the Packers better hope Love turns out to be the second coming. Ā Ā from the NFC championship game to TMZ with one pickĀ You donāt blame him for acting like an absolute baby and holding a presser to give his āthoughts.ā Ā Remember when Peyton Manningās replacement was drafted and Peyton threwĀ a hissy fit and said heĀ felt disrespected? Me neither. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 This thread is solid gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) If I were him Iād be annoyed they didnāt use that pick to get a starter.Ā Ā whining to the media is lame, but I could see asking to be traded to a team acting like they Ā want to win now.Ā Ā where is @Ice bowl 67 on this topic?Ā Edited May 15, 2020 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Ā Yeah the Packers should have just waited until Rodgers completely falls apart or leavesĀ so they could spend the next 20 years churning through his replacements! Ā yeah, maybe they should throw in the towel on the next couple seasons with a QBĀ they just extended for and under contract 4 more years while beingĀ a season removed from making the NFC championship game. Ā get your titles when you can. Ā If this regime doesnātĀ think AR is still capable of winning a SB, then theyĀ hired the wrong regime as they had just re upped Rodgers. Ā Ā Everyone who knows a dam about football could clearlyĀ see that the packers lack of WRs kept them from being an elite offense last season. Ā Enter the ābest WR draft everā.....and they donāt select ONE WR. Ā Not only did they skip WR in rd 1 and 2, but they skipped the positionĀ entirely.....while only adding Devin Funchess in FA. Ā Ā drafting Love is one thing. Ā Disregarding the WR position altogether is a completely different story. Ā The GB FOĀ failed 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, NewEra said: Ā yeah, maybe they should throw in the towel on the next couple seasons with a QBĀ they just extended for and under contract 4 more years while beingĀ a season removed from making the NFC championship game. Ā get your titles when you can. Ā If this regime doesnātĀ think AR is still capable of winning a SB, then theyĀ hired the wrong regime as they had just re upped Rodgers. Ā Ā Everyone who knows a dam about football could clearlyĀ see that the packers lack of WRs kept them from being an elite offense last season. Ā Enter the ābest WR draft everā.....and they donāt select ONE WR. Ā Not only did they skip WR in rd 1 and 2, but they skipped the positionĀ entirely.....while only adding Devin Funchess in FA. Ā Ā drafting Love is one thing. Ā Disregarding the WR position altogether is a completely different story. Ā The GB FOĀ failed Ā Green Bay should be contacting teams with spare WRs and try to get Rodgers support. He has not been consulted on it and when you have a franchise QB taking good portion of salary cap you need to try to at least listen to his viewpoint even if you do not agree with him.Ā He was already very mad when Van Pelt was gone for he was doing a lot of work for Rodgers. Edited May 15, 2020 by Limeaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 If youāre Green Bay, thereās absolutely no way that you trade him. Ā 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, FireChans said: You donāt blame him for acting like an absolute baby and holding a presser to give his āthoughts.ā Ā Remember when Peyton Manningās replacement was drafted and Peyton threwĀ a hissy fit and said heĀ felt disrespected? Me neither. A little different when your spineās just been put back together with hardware from Home Depot. ?āāļø.Ā Ā Not that Rodgers isnāt an ass.... but.... weāre seeing teams load up for late career runs with top QBs. The Packers should have done something to signify that they want to win besides letting their starters walk over the past five years without replacements.Ā 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, FireChans said: You donāt blame him for acting like an absolute baby and holding a presser to give his āthoughts.ā Ā Remember when Peyton Manningās replacement was drafted and Peyton threwĀ a hissy fit and said heĀ felt disrespected? Me neither. Yes, I blame him for being a baby. I blame the packers FO for failing during AR tenure as starting QB. Ā Ā i blame the packers for not drafting ANY wrs in a great wr draft. Ā i blame the packers for only adding one WR,Ā Devin Funchess to their WR unit,Ā while losing Allison. Ā Ā The packer FO isnāt a fan. Ā They canāt just run to the message boards, blameĀ aaron Rodgers for crying and call it a day. Ā Their job isĀ to improve their football team. Ā They failed miserably in that respect. Ā Ā now all those people that said āthe packers overachievedĀ in 2019ā can look at their 2020 record and say āsee, the packers werenāt any good in 2019, they were just luckyā. Ā Ā Lucky to have Aaron Rodgers. Ā 6 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: If youāre Green Bay, thereās absolutely no way that you trade him. Ā Why? Ā Because heās still so good that he can win your franchise another SB? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 hours ago, FireChans said: You donāt blame him for acting like an absolute baby and holding a presser to give his āthoughts.ā Ā Remember when Peyton Manningās replacement was drafted and Peyton threwĀ a hissy fit and said heĀ felt disrespected? Me neither. Ā I'm not defending Rodgers' actions, but it's a very different situation than Manning's. Peyton was one hit away from a career-ending neck injury and Luck was considered the best QB to come out of college since ... Peyton Manning. In fact, Peyton told the Colts they'd be stupid not to draft Luck. Ā Meanwhile, Rodgers is still healthy and productive, and the QB they drafted isn't expected to start anytime soon. Drafting his eventual replacement, like they did when they drafted Rodgers and still had Favre, was fine, but they should have at least gotten him some help in the receiving corps first. He has every right to be upset, but I agree with you that he shouldn't be airing it in public. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: A little different when your spineās just been put back together with hardware from Home Depot. ?āāļø.Ā Ā Not that Rodgers isnāt an ass.... but.... weāre seeing teams load up for late career runs with top QBs. The Packers should have done something to signify that they want to win besides letting their starters walk over the past five years without replacements.Ā Sure itās a bit different. But we all watched Rodgers get spanked by a Super Bowl quality team twice last year. Flat out embarrassed. And heās on the tail end of his career.Ā Ā The Packers regime today is not the same one from the last 5 years. They have a new HC and their new GM joined last year, when the Packers were terrible.Ā Ā So the Packers are cutting bait one year early rather than one year too late. Thatās the NFL. Hell, they walked away from Favre when he still had some ability left, seeing as Brett still played at a high level in Minnesota. 24 minutes ago, NewEra said: Yes, I blame him for being a baby. I blame the packers FO for failing during AR tenure as starting QB. Ā Ā i blame the packers for not drafting ANY wrs in a great wr draft. Ā i blame the packers for only adding one WR,Ā Devin Funchess to their WR unit,Ā while losing Allison. Ā Ā The packer FO isnāt a fan. Ā They canāt just run to the message boards, blameĀ aaron Rodgers for crying and call it a day. Ā Their job isĀ to improve their football team. Ā They failed miserably in that respect. Ā Ā now all those people that said āthe packers overachievedĀ in 2019ā can look at their 2020 record and say āsee, the packers werenāt any good in 2019, they were just luckyā. Ā Ā Lucky to have Aaron Rodgers. Ā Why? Ā Because heās still so good that he can win your franchise another SB? The FO you are blaming got fired last year. This is a new FO. Ā Aaron for all his greatness QBed a team that won 6 games the year prior.Ā Ā You are welcome to disagree with their approach, but your way is hardly the only way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Sure itās a bit different. But we all watched Rodgers get spanked by a Super Bowl quality team twice last year. Flat out embarrassed. And heās on the tail end of his career.Ā Ā The Packers regime today is not the same one from the last 5 years. They have a new HC and their new GM joined last year, when the Packers were terrible.Ā Ā So the Packers are cutting bait one year early rather than one year too late. Thatās the NFL. Hell, they walked away from Favre when he still had some ability left, seeing as Brett still played at a high level in Minnesota. The FO you are blaming got fired last year. This is a new FO. Ā Aaron for all his greatness QBed a team that won 6 games the year prior.Ā Ā You are welcome to disagree with their approach, but your way is hardly the only way. I realize all of this. Ā Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflabillsfan1 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 hours ago, FireChans said: You donāt blame him for acting like an absolute baby and holding a presser to give his āthoughts.ā Ā Remember when Peyton Manningās replacement was drafted and Peyton threwĀ a hissy fit and said heĀ felt disrespected? Me neither. Peyton wasn't even on the team when they drafted Luck and had missed the entire season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, soflabillsfan1 said: Peyton wasn't even on the team when they drafted Luck and had missed the entire season. Because they cut him when they had the #1 pick. Everyone knew he was being replaced by Luck prior to draft night. Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflabillsfan1 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just now, FireChans said: Because they cut him when they had the #1 pick. Everyone knew he was being replaced by Luck prior to draft night. Ā That's not really the same scenario at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Ā yeah, maybe they should throw in the towel on the next couple seasons with a QBĀ they just extended for and under contract 4 more years while beingĀ a season removed from making the NFC championship game. Ā get your titles when you can. Ā If this regime doesnātĀ think AR is still capable of winning a SB, then theyĀ hired the wrong regime as they had just re upped Rodgers. Ā Ā Everyone who knows a dam about football could clearlyĀ see that the packers lack of WRs kept them from being an elite offense last season. Ā Enter the ābest WR draft everā.....and they donāt select ONE WR. Ā Not only did they skip WR in rd 1 and 2, but they skipped the positionĀ entirely.....while only adding Devin Funchess in FA. Ā Ā drafting Love is one thing. Ā Disregarding the WR position altogether is a completely different story. Ā The GB FOĀ failed Ā Ā They aren't a WR from the SB.Ā They had plenty of chances to find a WR in the vastness of the rest of the draft or in FA.Ā Taking Love did not hurt their chances of getting to the SB this year.Ā It just did not.Ā No matter who they get or would have had at WR for this year, they are not the top 2 NFC teams.Ā They need a much better defense. Their run game is mediocre.Ā Ā Ā So I agree with your last 3 sentences.Ā But this was the worst 13-3 team last season and got embarrassed in every aspect of the game by SF in the NFCC game.Ā If you think that they were a rookie WR from the SB, then you would agree they should make it back to the NFCC game without one this year. Ā Ā That's not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 19 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/05/14/aaron-rodgers-will-speak-to-reporters-on-friday/amp/Ā Ā Ā It states that Rodgers spoke to Favre privately and advised that he wasnāt pleased with the Packers draft choices and feels like an odd man out on the team and might request trade to play for someone else.Ā The real question here is, did Favre really show up for this āprivate conversation,ā or did he onlyĀ cash a check?Ā 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Ā Ā They aren't a WR from the SB.Ā They had plenty of chances to find a WR in the vastness of the rest of the draft or in FA.Ā Taking Love did not hurt their chances of getting to the SB this year.Ā It just did not.Ā No matter who they get or would have had at WR for this year, they are not the top 2 NFC teams.Ā They need a much better defense. Their run game is mediocre.Ā Ā Ā So I agree with your last 3 sentences.Ā But this was the worst 13-3 team last season and got embarrassed in every aspect of the game by SF in the NFCC game.Ā If you think that they were a rookie WR from the SB, then you would agree they should make it back to the NFCC game without one this year. Ā Ā That's not going to happen. Excellent point. No one will argue this point, but will definitely argue they should have taken a WR anyway to not hurt Rodgersā feelings.Ā 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 27 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: They aren't a WR from the SB.Ā They had plenty of chances to find a WR in the vastness of the rest of the draft or in FA.Ā Taking Love did not hurt their chances of getting to the SB this year.Ā It just did not.Ā No matter who they get or would have had at WR for this year, they are not the top 2 NFC teams.Ā They need a much better defense. Their run game is mediocre.Ā Ā Ā So I agree with your last 3 sentences.Ā But this was the worst 13-3 team last season and got embarrassed in every aspect of the game by SF in the NFCC game.Ā If you think that they were a rookie WR from the SB, then you would agree they should make it back to the NFCC game without one this year. Ā Ā That's not going to happen. Ā Are they a rookie QB away from the SB?Ā 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Doc said: Ā Are they a rookie QB away from the SB?Ā Iām not sure anyone is arguing that taking Jordan Love increases their ability to win a SuperBowl this year.Ā Ā He was a pick for the future. They are hoping theyĀ winĀ a Super Bowl in the future with him. It worked for Aaron Rodgers. Edited May 15, 2020 by FireChans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Iām not sure anyone is arguing that taking Jordan Love increases their ability to win a SuperBowl this year.Ā Ā He was a pick for the future. They are hoping theyĀ winĀ a Super Bowl in the future with him. It worked for Aaron Rodgers. Ā Love is obviously a pick for the future.Ā The question is whether the Packers have thrown in the towel on the SB chase considering all they did in FA was add a JAG like Funchess at WR, keep a washed-up Marcedes Lewis, downgrade at RT from Bulaga to Ricky Wagner, and add a LB who has played just 9 games the past 2 seasons in Christian Kirksey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Ā Ā They aren't a WR from the SB.Ā They had plenty of chances to find a WR in the vastness of the rest of the draft or in FA.Ā Taking Love did not hurt their chances of getting to the SB this year.Ā It just did not.Ā No matter who they get or would have had at WR for this year, they are not the top 2 NFC teams.Ā They need a much better defense. Their run game is mediocre.Ā Ā Ā So I agree with your last 3 sentences.Ā But this was the worst 13-3 team last season and got embarrassed in every aspect of the game by SF in the NFCC game.Ā If you think that they were a rookie WR from the SB, then you would agree they should make it back to the NFCC game without one this year. Ā Ā That's not going to happen. This time last season, you wouldnāt have said the Niners were a top 2 teams in the nfc. Ā Meaning: Ā your comment means nothing. Ā You have no idea, what their team would look like if they used that pick on Patrick Queen orĀ and just draftedĀ ONE WR. Ā Weāre talking about pretend. Ā Not my thing. Ā Ā The only thing that I do know: Ā Drafting jordan love will have zero positive effect on them making the super bowl in the next two seasons. Ā My stance on the drafting of love:Ā Ā The FOĀ signed themselvesĀ up for a headache. Ā AĀ headache so painful that it will have enough ofĀ an effect on their 2020 season where they may not evenĀ make the playoffs.Ā Ā Why sign up for this headache when you have aaron Rodgers as your qb? Ā We arenāt talking about Andy dalton, Tyrod Taylor orĀ Ryan Fitzpatrick.Ā Itās aaron Rodgers. An Aaron Rodgers that was just extended the previous year and is close to unmovable in a trade (from what Iāve gathered here). An Aaron Rodgers that was a win from making the super bowl last year. Ā An AaronĀ Rodgers that desperately needs better WRs. Ā An Aaron Rodgers that is extremely volatile.......and unmovable. Ā Ā They basically sabotaged themselvesĀ now they have to deal with thisĀ headache. Ā You can blame AR for being a crybaby, but AR was already part of the packers equation. Ā IāllĀ blame the GM that didnāt take into consideration who his Qb is. Ā An all time great playing wellĀ enough to win Super Bowls andĀ is locked up for 3-4 yearĀ with a contract that canāt be moved. Ā A GM and coach that wereĀ gifted one of the best QBs ever.....canāt wait to see them win the SB without him. Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 38 minutes ago, FireChans said: Excellent point. No one will argue this point, but will definitely argue they should have taken a WR anyway to not hurt Rodgersā feelings.Ā Iād argue that they shouldāve taken Patrick Queen. Ā Heād slot right in pettinesĀ scheme. Ā They got trounced by the NinersĀ run game, then lost their best Lb and replaced him with a guy that has been injured 2 years in a row and a late round pick. Ā Ā IādĀ then argue that they shouldāve taken a WR at some point considering it was such a talented WR draft and that their WRs suck other than Adams. Ā Ā Everyone cried that josh allen didnāt have anyone to throw to. Ā Why should Aaron Rodgers be any different? Ā Because heās great? Ā He still needs more than 1 guyĀ that can get open. Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Packers game plan: Ā 1.)Ā Sign Aaron Rodgers to a four year massive contract extension impossible to get out of hampering your ability to acquire free agents and resign players. 2.)Ā Hire a head coach who's offense relies on the running game and isn't conducive to Rodgers free wheeling style of QB play. 3.)Ā Luck your way to the NFC Championship game and then do nothing in the draft to help the glaring areas of weakness on your team (DT, OT, WR) 4.)Ā Also, draft a 1st round QB that will create a constant media circus that will only be a distraction the next three years.Ā Then a 2nd round RB with two decent one's already on the roster.Ā Then a jack of all trades master of none FB/TE for some odd reason in a WR rich draft. 5.)Ā By the time Love is ready to take over he'll be ready for a new deal once again hampering your ability to acquire free agents and resign players. Ā 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Bills have one of the most talented rosters in the NFL and plenty of cap spaceĀ and you are trying to break it up? As I explained - there is only one ball and only 55 roster spots. we just drafted two WRs and traded for one. And have not lost anybody of significance from last year. How can you find playing time for Diggs, Davis, Hodgins etc. without losing anybody? Actually the reasons I suggested Beasley were, among others,Ā Ā a. he is "less" valuable than Brown and Diggs b. he has more market value than Duke / Davis etc.Ā c. there are non-AFC teams with WR needs which we can exploit d. Josh is working out with Hodgins, Davis, Diggs and Brown - but not with Beasley Ā Ā Edited May 15, 2020 by IgotBILLStopay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, Doc said: Ā Love is obviously a pick for the future.Ā The question is whether the Packers have thrown in the towel on the SB chase considering all they did in FA was add a JAG like Funchess at WR, keep a washed-up Marcedes Lewis, downgrade at RT from Bulaga to Ricky Wagner, and add a LB who has played just 9 games the past 2 seasons in Christian Kirksey? Did the Packers throw in the towel when they drafted Rodgers?Ā Ā What are you arguing? That they are tanking now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: As I explained - there is only one ball and only 55 roster spots. we just drafted two WRs and traded for one. And have not lost anybody of significance from last year. How can you find playing time for Diggs, Davis, Hodgins etc. without losing anybody? Actually the reasons I suggested Beasley were, among others,Ā Ā a. he is "less" valuable than Brown and Diggs b. he has more market value than Duke / Davis etc.Ā c. there are non-AFC teams with WR needs which we can exploit d. Josh is working out with Hodgins, Davis, Diggs and Brown - but not with Beasley Ā Ā Realistically, what could we get for Beasley and what player could work the slot like he does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Packers game plan: Ā 1.)Ā Sign Aaron Rodgers to a four year massive contract extension impossible to get out of hampering your ability to acquire free agents and resign players. 2.)Ā Hire a head coach who's offense relies on the running game and isn't conducive to Rodgers free wheeling style of QB play. 3.)Ā Luck your way to the NFC Championship game and then do nothing in the draft to help the glaring areas of weakness on your team (DT, OT, WR) 4.)Ā Also, draft a 1st round QB that will create a constant media circus that will only be a distraction the next three years.Ā Then a 2nd round RB with two decent one's already on the roster.Ā Then a jack of all trades master of none FB/TE for some odd reason in a WR rich draft. 5.)Ā By the time Love is ready to take over he'll be ready for a new deal once again hampering your ability to acquire free agents and resign players. Ā Rock and hard place with Rodgers IMO. Donāt extend him and lose him for nothing. Extend him, draft his replacement and move on in a fewĀ years. Then they win 6 games and they decide to accelerate the contingency plan. Ā Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NoSaint Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc said: Ā Are they a rookie QB away from the SB?Ā If heās āthe guyā then they get a few years cheap which makes you an immediate contender and then another 10-15 for a window after. Ā i donāt think loves the guy but... if he is, hitting on that gets them closer than a WR wouldĀ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Ā Ā They aren't a WR from the SB.Ā They had plenty of chances to find a WR in the vastness of the rest of the draft or in FA.Ā Taking Love did not hurt their chances of getting to the SB this year.Ā It just did not.Ā No matter who they get or would have had at WR for this year, they are not the top 2 NFC teams.Ā They need a much better defense. Their run game is mediocre.Ā Ā Ā So I agree with your last 3 sentences.Ā But this was the worst 13-3 team last season and got embarrassed in every aspect of the game by SF in the NFCC game.Ā If you think that they were a rookie WR from the SB, then you would agree they should make it back to the NFCC game without one this year. Ā Ā That's not going to happen. Youāre also the same guy who has crushed Reid for years and he just won a SB. Ā Why is it crazy to think a team in the NFC championship game with one good wr might win a SB with a receiver upgrade to one of the greatest qbs ever. Ā Ā GB is going to look back at some of the decisions they made and regret that didnāt win more SBs with one of the best QBs ever. Ā Dom Capersā toupee.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Iām not sure anyone is arguing that taking Jordan Love increases their ability to win a SuperBowl this year.Ā Ā He was a pick for the future. They are hoping theyĀ winĀ a Super Bowl in the future with him. It worked for Aaron Rodgers. And now they most likely closed the door on winning another SB with theirĀ legendary QB.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, NewEra said: And now they most likely closed the door on winning another SB with theirĀ legendary QB.Ā Brett Favre was a legend once too. The 2005 Packers drafted Rodgers over Roddy White and the Pack went 4-12. They should have drafted Roddy so they didn't hurt Brett's feelings and send him into retirement or demand a trade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 39 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: As I explained - there is only one ball and only 55 roster spots. we just drafted two WRs and traded for one. And have not lost anybody of significance from last year. How can you find playing time for Diggs, Davis, Hodgins etc. without losing anybody? Actually the reasons I suggested Beasley were, among others,Ā Ā a. he is "less" valuable than Brown and Diggs b. he has more market value than Duke / Davis etc.Ā c. there are non-AFC teams with WR needs which we can exploit d. Josh is working out with Hodgins, Davis, Diggs and Brown - but not with Beasley Ā Ā Whoās to say that Hodgins and Davis are good enough to contribute this year? Ā It took us long enough to build a very good WR unit....and before we even play a game, you want to break it up? Ā Ffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, NewEra said: Iād argue that they shouldāve taken Patrick Queen. Ā Heād slot right in pettinesĀ scheme. Ā They got trounced by the NinersĀ run game, then lost their best Lb and replaced him with a guy that has been injured 2 years in a row and a late round pick. Ā Ā IādĀ then argue that they shouldāve taken a WR at some point considering it was such a talented WR draft and that their WRs suck other than Adams. Ā Ā Everyone cried that josh allen didnāt have anyone to throw to. Ā Why should Aaron Rodgers be any different? Ā Because heās great? Ā He still needs more than 1 guyĀ that can get open. Ā Ā Good catch on losing Martinez and downgrading with Kirksey.Ā Ā Ā 35 minutes ago, FireChans said: Did the Packers throw in the towel when they drafted Rodgers?Ā Ā What are you arguing? That they are tanking now? Ā Favre had taken a beating over his career at that point, and they had just lost their playoff game to the Vikings at home.Ā They didn't just come off a trip to the NFCCG. Ā And they might be tanking.Ā Their team is definitely worse than the once that was trounced in the NFCCG.Ā And again, Love doesn't help them at all this or probably even next year. Ā 20 minutes ago, NoSaint said: If heās āthe guyā then they get a few years cheap which makes you an immediate contender and then another 10-15 for a window after. Ā i donāt think loves the guy but... if he is, hitting on that gets them closer than a WR wouldĀ Ā Closer to what?Ā A SB this year or next?Ā Nope.Ā In about 3 years when Love is ready to start?Ā Lots of things will be different by then. Ā If they think Rodgers has taken them as far as they can go, they should tear it down.Ā And judging by what they lost and didn't add, they probably will next off-season. Edited May 15, 2020 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Brett Favre was a legend once too. The 2005 Packers drafted Rodgers over Roddy White and the Pack went 4-12. They should have drafted Roddy so they didn't hurt Brett's feelings and send him into retirement or demand a trade! Who knows if theyĀ couldāve won another SB withĀ FavreĀ if he had Roddy. Ā They made the playoffs the previous 4 years. Ā Then they drafted Rodgers, pissed off Favre and didnāt win another with him. Ā Now theyāre hoping that they hitĀ lightning in a bottle again.....while they close the book on winning another Super Bowl with a legend.....and now have to deal with his crabby *$$. Ā time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Sure itās a bit different. But we all watched Rodgers get spanked by a Super Bowl quality team twice last year. Flat out embarrassed. And heās on the tail end of his career.Ā Ā The Packers regime today is not the same one from the last 5 years. They have a new HC and their new GM joined last year, when the Packers were terrible.Ā Ā So the Packers are cutting bait one year early rather than one year too late. Thatās the NFL. Hell, they walked away from Favre when he still had some ability left, seeing as Brett still played at a high level in Minnesota. The FO you are blaming got fired last year. This is a new FO. Ā Aaron for all his greatness QBed a team that won 6 games the year prior.Ā Ā You are welcome to disagree with their approach, but your way is hardly the only way. Gutekunst and āthe straw hatā havenāt played this right at all. Theyāre trying to play a middle ground and screwing the pooch. This is evidenced by cuckolding themselves with that massive extension. If they were going this route they should have let Rodgers play on the previous contract and traded him without the monstrous cap liability.Ā The issue is compounded by poor drafting which has existed since Schneider left for Seattle.Ā Ā I have no issues whatsoever with drafting a QB early. The problem is that they went hard in FA for pass rush and let their offense dissipate while extending Rodgers. Love is going to need weapons as well, and with all the money allocated to those contracts theyāre extremely limited. The only recourse would be trading Rodgers for an insane haul that makes the Mack compensation look like an appetizer.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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