BillsNutHawaii Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dr. K said: You jumped the shark when you turned to global warming denial. It undermines all your other arguments. Next step: Holocaust denial. U did it again .... where did I deny global warming ? U really fabricate things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 On 5/2/2020 at 1:11 PM, Motorin' said: I really enjoyed watching this. Stidham is a dink and dunker. His ball 20 yards downfield has Peterman pick potential. Average mobility. Collapses under pressure, fumble prone. If the Pats defense can hold teams to under 10 points each week they are going to win a lot of games next year. He looks like PFF super hero Duck Hodges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 21 minutes ago, BillsNutHawaii said: U did it again .... where did I deny global warming ? U really fabricate things Guess what? It's not everyone else, it's you. Buh-bye! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNutHawaii Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said: Guess what? It's not everyone else, it's you. Buh-bye! Who said it’s everyone else ? Delusional loser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Getting back to the topic....... The question can not be answered until he gets a min 1/2 season on tape where game plans are built around his weaknesses. QBs look good in pre-season when vanilla defenses rule. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNutHawaii Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 57 minutes ago, Dr. K said: You jumped the shark when you turned to global warming denial. It undermines all your other arguments. Next step: Holocaust denial. Holocaust denial .... sure, go worry about an atrocity in another country and ignore the total disgrace regarding treatment of African Americans in your own backyard. 1 minute ago, Just Joshin' said: Getting back to the topic....... The question can not be answered until he gets a min 1/2 season on tape where game plans are built around his weaknesses. QBs look good in pre-season when vanilla defenses rule. Thanks, agree and sorry for my role in going off topic .... I agree it will take about 1/2 to whole season. I think he’s gonna do really well in about year 2 or 3 of his career... I really wanted Bills to draft him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 THey have cap issues but at the same time could have went with a veteran who is out there. Belichick is probably not enamored with who was out there and wants to take his legend to the next level by "developing" Stidham. Good luck, he will likely fail at making the next Tom Brady. But I bet they will be a winning team and someone the Bills will still struggle to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 It got weird in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: It got weird in here Because we're going on 10 pages of obsessing over the 133rd overall pick with four career pass attempts? I agree. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: It got weird in here It’s only weird if you make it weird. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, mattynh said: THey have cap issues but at the same time could have went with a veteran who is out there. Belichick is probably not enamored with who was out there and wants to take his legend to the next level by "developing" Stidham. Good luck, he will likely fail at making the next Tom Brady. But I bet they will be a winning team and someone the Bills will still struggle to beat. Nope. Not without creating weaknesses elsewhere, for QB's with warts on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Just Joshin' said: Getting back to the topic....... The question can not be answered until he gets a min 1/2 season on tape where game plans are built around his weaknesses. QBs look good in pre-season when vanilla defenses rule. Exactly. I never say anything special while watching him in college. He was meh. I think he is getting the Patriot bump. that said, I think it insane they way some fans are discounting them. They are going to make things real simple for their qb and their defense will keep them in every game. They probably will look similar to our team last year. Keep the game close, don’t beat yourself, and hopefully pull it out late. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangaxx Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 He seems to think hes pretty good. Hope the Bills use this pic as motivation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I’m going to do everyone a favor and post a picture of my testicles just so this can get closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/2/2020 at 12:51 PM, Victory Formation said: I think you mean Stidham. They’re saying that New England is higher on him than they were on Garoppolo. It should be interesting to see how this shakes out. I think even with poor QB play, New England gets 8 wins off their defense alone so bottoming out doesn’t seem likely. Their defense is way too good for that. Agreed (think 6 wins at worst and 9 wins at most) and I love that. Here's to two decades of 6-10, 7-9, and 8-8 records for the Pats, stuck in QB purgatory. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, BillsFanForReal said: He seems to think hes pretty good. Hope the Bills use this pic as motivation. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/2/2020 at 7:46 AM, Golden Goat said: Belichick's ego. He wants to show that he -- not Brady -- was the reason for their success. Adam Gase has a higher winning percentage than Belicheat without Brady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: I’m going to do everyone a favor and post a picture of my testicles just so this can get closed. please do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) who the hell knows? Vegas might Patriots only favored in eight games in 2020 The Patriots are underdogs at Seattle, at Kansas City, home against the 49ers, at Buffalo, home against the Ravens, at Houston and at the L.A. Rams. They’re favored to win both of their games against the Dolphins and Jets, their home game against the Bills, home against the Raiders, home against the Broncos and home against the Cardinals. They’re a pick-em at the Chargers. If the odds are right, they’ll go 8-7-1, their worst record since 2000, before Brady was their starting quarterback. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/05/11/patriots-only-favored-in-eight-games-in-2020/?partner=Yahoo Edited May 13, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 50 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: Adam Gase has a higher winning percentage than Belicheat without Brady. If you include the Browns years yes. But he did go 10-5 with Matt Cassell in 2008 and 4-0 without Brady when he was suspended for deflate gate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: If you include the Browns years yes. But he did go 10-5 with Matt Cassell in 2008 and 4-0 without Brady when he was suspended for deflate gate. was he HC in Cleveland? Then yes you have to include it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 59 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: was he HC in Cleveland? Then yes you have to include it He clearly didn't have the same successful system in Cleveland that he has had in NE. Since he has been in NE Billy B has a winning record without Brady. I think it lacks context to include the Browns years. Since Brady has been on the Pats when he didn't play the Pats have been above .500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Bangarang said: I’m going to do everyone a favor and post a picture of my testicles just so this can get closed. ....Well, were waiting 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbyte Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) Why do we go back 25 years? Don’t you think coaches learn from what they did wrong? When BB took over the Pats he inherited a bloated underachieving team with the highest paid QB. Who could not stop making dumb mistakes and constantly changing the plays sent in. He had to rebuild the roster and when Bledsoe went down he slipped Brady in. When Bledsoe came back, he did not get the job back. The next year Bledsoe was traded to the Bills, who experienced the same problems. So what happen, in the previous years, is not relevant today. Each year it starts over, nobody knows what will happens until the games are played. Injuries can really wreck a team’s season. Edited May 12, 2020 by dogbyte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/2/2020 at 7:10 AM, billsfan1959 said: First, Belichick is a d**k and not above cheating to win; however, he would never tank for any reason. Second, I don't think Stidham is the the long-term answer for the Patriots, but, I do think Belichick believes he can win with any QB and is looking to prove he was primarily responsible for the Patriots**** success, not Brady. When you radio the plays to the Qb in their helmet, by spying, any one can be successful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I’m going with the under on this, ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 4 hours ago, billsfan89 said: He clearly didn't have the same successful system in Cleveland that he has had in NE. Since he has been in NE Billy B has a winning record without Brady. I think it lacks context to include the Browns years. Since Brady has been on the Pats when he didn't play the Pats have been above .500. true. BUT I argue that because of PATRIOTISM after 911 the Pats got the benefit of “blind eyes” by the refs and some beneficial calls aka just give it to them. what happened to the Tuck rule? what happened to the spy gate tapes? No team should be able to go 10 years leading the league in fewest penalties. The odds are astronomical that it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Are we still debating this? He's a Patriot. He's the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Late coming to this party but living in Pats territory I've seen enough of Stidham to throw in my two cents. I'd have to say he's Matt Cassel with Nathan Peterman tendencies. His arm may turn out better than Cassel and in the right system and a decent off season maybe they'll coach the Peterman tendencies out of him but the kid loves to throw on schedule covered or not and it didn't seem that hard to trick him. No Brady there to coach him up I wouldn't be surprised to see him throw too many picks for Belichick's liking and that's when we'll see Hoyer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 11:55 AM, BillsFanForReal said: He seems to think hes pretty good. Hope the Bills use this pic as motivation. Where's the tiger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Having watched Stidham's preseason tape from last season, he could wind up surprising me, but his arm strength and lack of mobility don't scare me at all. He might as well be throwing the ball underhanded compared to the way the ball rockets out of Josh's hand. I think his upcoming performance against our defense this season could look a lot like Duck Hodges' fall-back-to-earth game from 2019. Stidham's ceiling is probably Andy Dalton which isn't bad, but his floor is much worse, possibly Nate Peterman-esque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 2:45 PM, billsfan89 said: If you include the Browns years yes. But he did go 10-5 with Matt Cassell in 2008 and 4-0 without Brady when he was suspended for deflate gate. Why wouldn't we? Does that mean we shouldn't include Gase's time in Miami? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Bruce Harper said: Why wouldn't we? Does that mean we shouldn't include Gase's time in Miami? The Browns years were nearly 30 years ago, that's kind of a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said: Having watched Stidham's preseason tape from last season, he could wind up surprising me, but his arm strength and lack of mobility don't scare me at all. He might as well be throwing the ball underhanded compared to the way the ball rockets out of Josh's hand. I think his upcoming performance against our defense this season could look a lot like Duck Hodges' fall-back-to-earth game from 2019. Stidham's ceiling is probably Andy Dalton which isn't bad, but his floor is much worse, possibly Nate Peterman-esque. I think he may develop into an effective game manager and should be quite a bit better than NP. Hardly looks to me like a franchise guy or maybe not even a long term starter (like Dalton) but I think he might have a lengthy NFL career nevertheless. Opinions (not surprisingly) are pretty much all over the place. I think Jeremiah said that had he been in this year's draft he could have been a late first, early second, for what that's worth. He's no Josh Allen but his arm looks adequate to me, especially when he steps into his throws, though I need to see more on the boundaries outside the hash marks. I don't think he can make a living at this level exclusively in the centre of the field. I don't quite understand why people accuse him of being a statue. He's basically a pocket passer project and again no Josh Allen running the football but what little I've seen of his Auburn tape does suggest the ability to take what defences give him and even what may be there on occasion when plays break down (and more so than Brady). There is a likelihood that he implodes unless his O line and RBs can protect and that's why I think Thuney stays. Maybe they ink a new deal next year when the Pats have lots of cap space but clearly they passed on converting him into high draft pick for a reason. Edited May 15, 2020 by starrymessenger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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