njbuff Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 The top 5 RB's are clear and they all might be gone by 54. Will one of them land to the Bills, or will they trade up to get one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) On 3/26/2020 at 9:53 PM, Augie said: It’s probably the most glaring need we have, and fortunately it’s a pretty easy one to fix. I trust our guys to get Motor a good companion. This is a match to my thinking. Glaring as in obvious but easy to fill as in that there are many decent options to meet the need. I was making some mashed potatoes of the instant type (free tip : throw in some frozen fries to make it better.) I open the fridge and see there is no more milk. My kids were set on some potatoes with gravy as part of their lunch. Milk is a glaring kitchen need but options for getting some are plentiful. Many think a first round RB = buying a cow. A few think that a 2nd round RB = buying a dairy farm. Thus, my hope that an elite talent might be there at 54 or a little earlier. We know Beane likes to target guys they view as elite that are falling. An elite RB talent in round 2 might be a sensible solution that is bpa and adds another reliable playmaker to the offense for 4 years or more. I solved the milk problem by adding half a tub of Bison dip and some shredded cheese. Not ideal but in a pinch it did the job and the kids ate it up per usual. That is Yeldon, imo. Ok in a pinch until you can get to Wegman's. Edited April 4, 2020 by JESSEFEFFER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 I like Singletary but when you look up the ratings of NFL RB’s in 2019, the best I see him rated is #20. Maybe other posters know or can find other reports that have him rated higher. “20” is about bottom third of the league. If we are to be a contender, I would like to see our RB rated in the top 10. Singletary is #22 here: https://www.thedelite.com/nfl-starting-running-backs-ranked-for-2019-season =============================================== Singletary is #20 here: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/rb/2019 ================================================= Singletary is #20 here in a composite fantasy list: https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/rb-cheatsheets.php ================================================ Singletary is #30 here: (nlf.com) https://www.tennesseetitans.com/video/nfl-com-ranks-nfl-s-top-running-backs-of-2019 ================================================= others? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said: This is a match to my thinking. Glaring as in obvious but easy to fill as in that there are many decent options to meet the need. I was making some mashed potatoes of the instant type (free tip : throw in some frozen fries to make it better.) I open the fridge and see there is no more milk. My kids were set on some potatoes with gravy as part of their lunch. Milk is a glaring kitchen need but options for getting some are plentiful. Many think a first round RB = buying a cow. A few think that a 2nd round RB = buying a dairy farm. Thus, my hope that an elite talent might be there at 54 or a little earlier. We know Beane likes to target guys they view as elite that are falling. An elite RB talent in round 2 might be a sensible solution that is bpa and adds another reliable playmaker to the offense for 4 years or more. I solved the milk problem by adding half a tub of Bison dip and some shredded cheese. Not ideal but in a pinch it did the job and the kids ate it up per usual. That is Yeldon, imo. Ok in a pinch until you can get to Wegman's. Funny you use this analogy TODAY! I went to the store mainly to stock up for a week of breakfast for me, skim milk and bananas. You have to pay attention.....all the milk on the shel expires TODAY! Apparently it’s not as easy to fill as it used to be! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 On 3/27/2020 at 11:54 AM, Happy Days Lois & Clark said: I think a backup running back is an easier position to fill than most other positions. i would wait til the 5th round before drafting one. I'd go CB, DE, WR before RB. Easier to fill, yes. A top 10 guy, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 On 4/4/2020 at 9:10 PM, CSBill said: This, a bigger RB that can run between the tackles, and who can block and catch passes in the passing game. Free agnet or draft, that is he need. That's the way I've always leaned too. We've got an evasive guy, now get a hammer as a change-of-pace, someone like A.J. Dillon. I do think that the people who would rather get a speed back to pair with Singletary have a point, but me, I'd rather get someone like Dillon. Now, it seems that Beane thinks that way a bit too, as shown in his pre-draft interview: "It’s also telling that Beane has expressed confidence in T.J. Yeldon. Skeptics will naturally point to his vote of confidence for LeSean McCoy last year before he was cut, but that was a different situation. Yeldon has no illusion of starting over Singletary and he’s on a modest contract. “ 'We’re very confident in T.J.. I can remember scouting him, coming out and watching him in his years in Jacksonville. He’s a three-down player. He’s smart. He fit us well. The great thing about T.J., he wasn’t up last year because of the way we had things with special teams,' Beane said. 'He’s a guy that we feel can play at any point. Very good out of the pass game. Was probably more of a threat than Frank out of the backfield, but we just felt Frank was that heavier downhill presence than Devin’s style, and that’s not T.J.’s biggest strength. Very confident T.J. can come in. Devin is our No. 1 as it stands and if something happened to him, T.J. has carried the load in Jacksonville and has proven it, so we look forward to bringing him back for Year Two.' "So, the Bills appear satisfied with their veteran back, downplaying the need to find another in free agency or early on in the draft. On Day Three of the draft, though, anything goes at running back. By that point, it’s about finding players who can make the team and contribute down the line. If the Bills can find a complementary runner with more of a downhill flair to his game, like Gore, that would be a great addition in the fourth, fifth or sixth round. If he could help on special teams, that would be even better." https://theathletic.com/1720052/2020/04/02/seven-thoughts-on-the-bills-draft-after-brandon-beanes-press-conference/?source=dailyemail They wanted a "heavier downhill presence." That's interesting. Not conclusive, of course, but indicative. My guesses that we are looking hard at Dillon have taken a tick upwards in probability, methinks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 On 4/1/2020 at 9:47 PM, DCOrange said: If we're going to use Football Outsiders' numbers, DVOA probably makes more sense. DYAR will likely prop up 1st rounders because teams that take a RB in the 1st round will feel obligated to use them as more of a bellcow so they'll naturally have more touches and fare better in terms of DYAR. DVOA is focused on the value each RB gives on a per touch basis (also probably more important in our case due to the fact that Singletary didn't become a starter until well into the season). Singletary ranks 13th in terms of DVOA. It seems possible to me we already have our top 10 guy. And in terms of DVOA, 4 of the top 10 from last year were drafted in the first 2 rounds. 5 were drafted in the 5th round or later. This. As they say, DYAR refers to overall value, and Singletary didn't get all that many touches last year, whereas DVOA refers to value per play. Singletary was quite a bit better there, and that was as a rookie. And you simply don't need a great RB to be a terrific team. KC's best RB last year in DYAR was 29th (McCoy) and at DVOA was 28th (again, McCoy). Damien Williams was a couple of spots behind. Last year's champ, NE, had Sony Michel at #26 as their top-ranked guy at DVOA and #24 at DYAR. In 2017, the champion Eagles best was Ajayi at #27 and #28, putting up 408 yards for Philly in eight games, and that was the year he played on two teams. Philly's #2 guy was Blount at #37 and #36. You simply don't need a great RB, or even a very good one. Singletary, Yeldon and either a late FA (remember, Beane brought in Yeldon himself on April 22nd, three days before the draft in 2018) or mid-rounder in a great draft for mid-round RBs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: This. As they say, DYAR refers to overall value, and Singletary didn't get all that many touches last year, whereas DVOA refers to value per play. Singletary was quite a bit better there, and that was as a rookie. And you simply don't need a great RB to be a terrific team. KC's best RB last year in DYAR was 29th (McCoy) and at DVOA was 28th (again, McCoy). Damien Williams was a couple of spots behind. Last year's champ, NE, had Sony Michel at #26 as their top-ranked guy at DVOA and #24 at DYAR. In 2017, the champion Eagles best was Ajayi at #27 and #28, putting up 408 yards for Philly in eight games, and that was the year he played on two teams. Philly's #2 guy was Blount at #37 and #36. You simply don't need a great RB, or even a very good one. Singletary, Yeldon and either a late FA (remember, Beane brought in Yeldon himself on April 22nd, three days before the draft in 2018) or mid-rounder in a great draft for mid-round RBs. Well, a guy who is a better runner improves our team. Having another weapon (pass receiving RB) is always a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I am curious what Christian Wade is looking like behind the scenes. The guy clearly has the athleticism to be a great player, has he refined himself enough to be a factor this year? Is he part of the plans? I think we will see the answer by round 4 if no RB has been taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 On 4/1/2020 at 12:59 PM, maryland-bills-fan said: https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2020/4/1/21198814/opinion-making-adjustments-to-the-running-backs-dont-matter-philosophy If anybody can explain this to me, please post it or send a PM. I don't know if I have had too much or too little to drink. I think they established that running game matters, but not necessarily the back. They also kind of made note of the fact that a good offensive line and QB can affect the position greatly. There wasn't like a clear - this is the way to get running backs though. "Running backs matter, but as we recognize they matter less than other positions, let’s not go overboard." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 On 4/1/2020 at 12:59 PM, maryland-bills-fan said: https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2020/4/1/21198814/opinion-making-adjustments-to-the-running-backs-dont-matter-philosophy If anybody can explain this to me, please post it or send a PM. I don't know if I have had too much or too little to drink. I had listened to the podcast version of this but it mirrors pretty closely this article. A big miss is the fact that an elite RB can add much to an offense as a pass catcher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Eno Benjamin por favor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said: I had listened to the podcast version of this but it mirrors pretty closely this article. A big miss is the fact that an elite RB can add much to an offense as a pass catcher. Here is an interesting article explaining the basic running back routes. http://www.spreadoffense.com/ssp/rb_spread_threat TT was deadly with the "wheel" and the "hole". That would give Allen a safety net on blitzes. The "rice" (I never heard it called that) with a drag by a WR, would be deadly with a good pass catching and speedier RB. A speedy RB who could flex out as a WR would also give the defense fits and could lead to big mismatches. There is also this thing called "a screen pass", which is illegal for the Bills. There is a whole world that we have been missing on offense. Our receiving stats for last year: https://www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html?group=O&cat=T catches yards yard per game Brown 72 1060 70.7 Beasley 67 778 51.9 Knox 28 338 25.9 Yeldon 13 124 20.7 Sweeney 8 114 19 McKenzie 27 254 16.9 Singletary 29 194 16.2 Gore 13 100 6.2 (D Williams 12 166 41.5 ) The backup running back and each of two tight ends have a better yards/game than our present RB. Remember that in receiving in 2019 for RB's he is ranked #44. Sorry for any misspellings. Edited April 8, 2020 by maryland-bills-fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonley1180 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 On 4/4/2020 at 8:10 AM, CSBill said: This, a bigger RB that can run between the tackles, and who can block and catch passes in the passing game. Free agent or draft, that is he need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, jdonley1180 said: .op t to #54, I would take Akers unless some guy with certain top 40 grade was available. If the top 5 are gone, I would hope for Moss in the 3rd and trade up as much as possible for him. That is my board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said: The backup running back and each of two tight ends have a better yards/game than our present RB. Remember that in receiving in 2019 for RB's he is ranked #44. Remember that it was his ***** rookie season? They were still figuring out what he could do, and working him into the lineup. (Now I remember, you're the guy that thinks all these guys in the draft will be better than Singletary....) Edited April 8, 2020 by 32ABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, 32ABBA said: Remember that it was his ***** rookie season? They were still figuring out what he could do, and working him into the lineup. (Now I remember, you're the guy that thinks all these guys in the draft will be better than Singletary....) Silly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Ripster Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Would you say this concern has been adequately addressed? Is the RB position one of this teams strengths or weaknesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, The_Ripster said: Would you say this concern has been adequately addressed? Is the RB position one of this teams strengths or weaknesses? You’ve awakened the sleeping giant 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, The_Ripster said: Would you say this concern has been adequately addressed? Is the RB position one of this teams strengths or weaknesses? Considering the Bills signed Matt Breida on the 25th of March, something tells me you could find the answer in this thread, already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Since you guys are determined to bump this fossil, here's some fuel: https://billswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/07/maurice-jones-drew-buffalo-bills-devin-singletary-zack-moss/ Quote Maurice Jones-Drew, the former running back turned analyst for NFL Media, is not very high on the Buffalo Bills’ backfield. MJD ranked each starting backfield head-to-head and… at least the Bills don’t have the worst in the AFC East? Still, it’s pretty bad. Devin Singletary was named Buffalo’s “starter” for the list, but the breakdown attributes both Singletary and Zack Moss. The only backfield Buffalo’s duo ranks better than is the one sported by the Miami Dolphins. The Bills are No. 31 overall. Ouch: The Bills have had a real problem with their run game and they need a reliable player at the position. Devin Singletary and Zack Moss have each had their moments but neither player has shown any consistency. Right now, Josh Allen is the best rusher on the team. That really bothers me as a former running back. The Bills’ backfield really needs to step it up, and Singletary has the most experience. The time is now. I said elsewhere and will say here. I agree, Josh Allen is probably the most talented rusher on the team. That's probably true of a number of other teams: Ravens (Lamar Jackson), Cardinals (Kyler Murray), New England (Cam Newton), Texans (Deshaun Watson), Seattle (Russ Wilson). Even the Giants! (Daniel Jones) - which, Damn! Daniel - was NOT supposed to be that way! Does it bother Maurice Jones-Drew for these other teams as well? If not, why not? Josh Allen is becoming pretty widely acknowledged as having pretty high athletic talent. He apparently trains off-season with the same running coach who trains Deshaun Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 March 2020?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: March 2020?? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Since you guys are determined to bump this fossil, here's some fuel: https://billswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/07/maurice-jones-drew-buffalo-bills-devin-singletary-zack-moss/ I said elsewhere and will say here. I agree, Josh Allen is probably the most talented rusher on the team. That's probably true of a number of other teams: Ravens (Lamar Jackson), Cardinals (Kyler Murray), New England (Cam Newton), Texans (Deshaun Watson), Seattle (Russ Wilson). Even the Giants! (Daniel Jones) - which, Damn! Daniel - was NOT supposed to be that way! Does it bother Maurice Jones-Drew for these other teams as well? If not, why not? Josh Allen is becoming pretty widely acknowledged as having pretty high athletic talent. He apparently trains off-season with the same running coach who trains Deshaun Watson. Don't think Cam Newton is the best rusher on the Patriots I think Damian Harris has taken the nod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 The Bills have the best RB to have never played the game... Christian Wade. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Ripster Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Does it bother Maurice Jones-Drew for these other teams as well? If not, why not? Maybe MoJo values the other teams' supporting rushers more? More production and more experience out of the backfield on most those other teams. And he might be wary of replicable production out of Zack Moss due to his lingering injury and recovery time line. 47 minutes ago, Reader said: Considering the Bills signed Matt Breida on the 25th of March, something tells me you could find the answer in this thread, already. As for Breida, I am really excited to see what he brings too, but it does discourage me that he got beat out by Gaskins and Ahmed on the Dolphins last year. It's not like those guys had incredible seasons either last year at 584 yrds and 319 yrds respectfully, with Breida stomping for just 254 yards. I do like Breida's production in SF tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, The_Ripster said: Maybe MoJo values the other teams' supporting rushers more? More production and more experience out of the backfield on most those other teams. And he might be wary of replicable production out of Zack Moss due to his lingering injury and recovery time line. As for Breida, I am really excited to see what he brings too, but it does discourage me that he got beat out by Gaskins and Ahmed on the Dolphins last year. It's not like those guys had incredible seasons either last year at 584 yrds and 319 yrds respectfully, with Breida stomping for just 254 yards. I do like Breida's production in SF tho. I don’t think Brita was a good fit in Miami , I think he’ll be better in zone blocking if that is what will run again this year . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 hours ago, The_Ripster said: Maybe MoJo values the other teams' supporting rushers more? More production and more experience out of the backfield on most those other teams. And he might be wary of replicable production out of Zack Moss due to his lingering injury and recovery time line. As for Breida, I am really excited to see what he brings too, but it does discourage me that he got beat out by Gaskins and Ahmed on the Dolphins last year. It's not like those guys had incredible seasons either last year at 584 yrds and 319 yrds respectfully, with Breida stomping for just 254 yards. I do like Breida's production in SF tho. What exactly is Moss lingering injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 6 hours ago, Warcodered said: You know it’s grave robber time when these threads come back up in July each year. The article Hap brings up doesn’t even reference Breida. MJD was a solid RB, but always has strong opinions. I’m not crazy about him, but he is making an obvious point. Our running game needs to improve, but as several have stated it’s more about the line than the backs. Our backs are average. I’m hopeful Breida will be used well. He had relative success in 18 and 19 in SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 It would just be GREAT if our ‘little secret’ Christian Wade made the team this year and burst onto the NFL landscape like we all know he could. 🙏👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 The guy I’m interested seeing in camp is Antonio Williams. He had only 1 run in 2020, but looked impressive. I hope it is really an open competition. Camp can come soon enough. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Not really, a mild need at present, if the coaches scheme to the O lines and RBs strength we will have a running game that melds into our pass 80% of the time offense, so no to the OP, you’re over blowing it a bunch. that and there has been endless banter about our supposed gigantic RB problem that is in reality a run blocking problem. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (….frantically searching for the 1999 thread on Flutie vs Johnson….) 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 11 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Don't think Cam Newton is the best rusher on the Patriots I think Damian Harris has taken the nod In terms of ypa certainly, 100 yds more on same # attempts. I didn't watch enough Pats*** to say this year, but certainly through a lot of Cam's career even when another player had more yards and more attempts, it would have been argued that Cam was more dangerous with the ball in his hand. But fair point. 10 hours ago, The_Ripster said: As for Breida, I am really excited to see what he brings too, but it does discourage me that he got beat out by Gaskins and Ahmed on the Dolphins last year. I think there are some backs who somehow can't fit in Chan Gailey's offense, and he turns away from them. Remember how hard it was for Spiller to see the field his first couple years? Of course, part of that was reportedly struggles with the playbook, and I don't know as Daboll's playbook is any easier for an RB to grasp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 10 hours ago, The_Ripster said: Maybe MoJo values the other teams' supporting rushers more? More production and more experience out of the backfield on most those other teams. And he might be wary of replicable production out of Zack Moss due to his lingering injury and recovery time line. My point is, MJD wasn't just comparing Singletary to other backs in his remarks (which he also did, rating our backfield 31 out of 32 which seems harsh but arguable). He was saying specifically that it bothered him that the QB, Allen was the best rusher on the team. Ravens (Lamar Jackson): Gus Edwards just got a new contract and for sure had more production than Singletary, but Lamar Jackson blew his doors off for rushing production by every metric (1.3 more ypa, 22 more ypg etc etc) and no question who is more feared as a rusher - so if it bothers MJD that the QB is the best rusher on the team in B'lo, does it bother him in Baltimore? Cardinals (Kyler Murray): Kenyon Drake had more yards and 100 more attempts, and has more experience and production - but Murray blew his doors off 6.2 ypa vs 4.0 ypa. No question who is the more dynamic run threat IMO, so if it bothers MJD in B'lo, does it bother him in AZ - and if not, why not? I grant @Buffalo716 point about NE and certainly Jones is not a dynamic run threat with the Giants, but IMO similar arguments in Houston - David Johnson is a good back, but I think most players polled would say with the ball in his hand Watson more of a threat to contain - and Seattle's run game just sucked last year so similar argument for Wilson, even though at this point in his career it's clear that he'd rather pass and is trying to limit his hits. I personally think those other teams don't bother MJD because he perceives Jackson, Murray, Wilson, Newton (earlier in his career certainly) as elite athletes. It's no shame to be second fiddle as an RB to a truly elite athletic threat! In contrast, I don't think MJD credits Allen as the elite athlete he actually is. Or put another way, we could have a far better RB in our backfield, and Allen could still be the best rusher on the team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, WotAGuy said: (….frantically searching for the 1999 thread on Flutie vs Johnson….) Was that website in DOS? 😜😇👍🏋️♂️🦬 I think even Chandman was young back then. He didn’t yell at people on his lawn until Gregg Williams. 😃 Dang Donahue! Edited July 8, 2021 by machine gun kelly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 14 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Since you guys are determined to bump this fossil, here's some fuel: https://billswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/07/maurice-jones-drew-buffalo-bills-devin-singletary-zack-moss/ I said elsewhere and will say here. I agree, Josh Allen is probably the most talented rusher on the team. That's probably true of a number of other teams: Ravens (Lamar Jackson), Cardinals (Kyler Murray), New England (Cam Newton), Texans (Deshaun Watson), Seattle (Russ Wilson). Even the Giants! (Daniel Jones) - which, Damn! Daniel - was NOT supposed to be that way! Does it bother Maurice Jones-Drew for these other teams as well? If not, why not? Josh Allen is becoming pretty widely acknowledged as having pretty high athletic talent. He apparently trains off-season with the same running coach who trains Deshaun Watson. Daniel Jones is a more talented runner than Saquan? There's hot takes and then there's this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Billl said: Daniel Jones is a more talented runner than Saquan? There's hot takes and then there's this. The "best ability is availability". We're talking about last season here. How many games did Barkley play in last season? How many yards did he have? https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BarkSa00/gamelog/2020/ Maybe you might want to stow your snark and look into stuff a little before firing off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The "best ability is availability". We're talking about last season here. How many games did Barkley play in last season? How many yards did he have? https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BarkSa00/gamelog/2020/ Maybe you might want to stow your snark and look into stuff a little before firing off. It was a joke. No offense meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I’m not sure I would agree that Allen is the best rusher on the team, even if he has to date wound up being the most effective. For sure he’s a much better runner than Moss or Singletary are QBs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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